2 REFUSALS ALREADY, NEW APPLICATION WITH LOTS OF CHANGES! NEED REVIEWS.

[sqfit]

Its not a visa...... and it comes under Permanent residence when we fill any kind of form... when we come from India directly as PR on the basis of family, first we get a card of 3 years and we have to renew it after 3 years and later with second of 5, after 5 years I have to renew it...,y family has PR with a renewal period of 5 years until completing 10 years to get a passport...coz everyone has to renew it by giving the biometrics after 5 years

Your case is completely different than mine. A PR can be a good tie if you have family in that country, homes, business etc. I don’t know about your profile completely but if you guys have PR in Spain and no ties to India then applying from India is a very wrong move for you. In my case, I don’t have any status (other than dependent on my spouse’s work permit) and I visit my home frequently and I’m just here temporarily with my home and all my records from birth until employment in my home country India. Hence I need to emphasize my tie only to that place. Your case is different. You have permanent resident, infact applying from India if you have no tie to that place might actually work against you. You have your family in Spain, you should definitely show ties to it, in my case I don’t have any tie to KSA at all. Please do your own research because we all just give each other suggestions and I take influence from cases exactly similar to mine.

 

[sqfit]

I guess we are all confused with simple question and answer. It should be situational circumstance not your choice on question 7-9. Not all countries has vfs or embassy, and one embassy can process from different countries. Then comes how long you have been in that country. The way you interprete those questions can be different. If you live in UAE, have some ties ( social or economic ) then UAE which is your current address is your country you are applying from. Total concealing can be misrep

I haven’t gone that route but even if I have to I won’t conceal anything and ruin my chance at anything. I have been reading, researching and talking to people who did that and got through, nobody lied nor do I intend to lie in my application saying I’m in India. That kind of lie is absolutely unacceptable, I will submit stamps from my passport which will definitely show where I am. I just want my file to be processed in my home country and I’m working for that. Applying from current country only makes them bound to check ties with that place, a lot of RCICs have clearly stated that. There is no blueprint given by the CA immigration but RCIC lawyers help give us some insights. Also all my documents (social, economic, familial, properties, etc) are of my home country hence its futile to lodge my application here because in my last 2 refusals my rejection was only around “my husband’s temporary status and me being dependent on him leaves no choice according to them for me to never leave Canada” they didn’t even care to see I have properties in my home country.
cheers.

 

[sqfit]

AFAIK, even if one applies under SDS but did not meet all the criteria, then that application is treated as a non SDS application. Please do correct me if I’m wrong.

Yes that is correct. I read it on CIC website.

 

[lovepreet_singh]

Oh I get you now - you have the long term residency card?

I have 3 years and on back, it's written in Spanish temporal for reunification by father one coz I came in 2018, my mother and my sister has 5 years with large duration and my father also has five years large duration and he applied for Spanish passport since 2 years and waiting for the result

 

[wonderbly]

I have 3 years and on back, it's written in Spanish temporal for reunification by father one coz I came in 2018, my mother and my sister has 5 years with large duration and my father also has five years large duration and he applied for Spanish passport since 2 years and waiting for the result

Does the word "temporal" not give you a clue on the status of your residency in Spain?

 

[lovepreet_singh]

Does the word "temporal" not give you a clue on the status of your residency in Spain?

I really don't know how they (CANADA IMMIGARTION) will take this... but for us and in Spain it's like a PR...i have all rights similar to as citizens of here.... at las really don't know ... I am really confused...that's why I wanted to know because if I apply from India, by physically present there, then also my whole family will be present in Spain and sponsor all my fees and financials, from here in spain and then immigration will ask if your family is there in Spain and why are you applying from India...

 

[wonderbly]

I really don't know how they (CANADA IMMIGARTION) will take this... but for us and in Spain it's like a PR...i have all rights similar to as citizens of here.... at las really don't know ... I am really confused...that's why I wanted to know because if I apply from India, by physically present there, then also my whole family will be present in Spain and sponsor all my fees and financials, from here in spain and then immigration will ask if your family is there in Spain and why are you applying from India...

Given that all your ties are in Spain, it makes sense to apply from Spain. You need to show that you and your family are fully established there.

 

[lovepreet_singh]

Given that all your ties are in Spain, it makes sense to apply from Spain. You need to show that you and your family are fully established there.

i heard that we can give biometrics anywhere ?? is that right?

 

[wonderbly]

i heard that we can give biometrics anywhere ?? is that right?

Ideally yes. You need to book an appointment with the VAC office you are intending to go to.

 

[Shmiler]

I understand what you're saying because the only option on their form that actually fits is "permanent resident". The other categories aren't even close. They technically don't have PR in Spain, or the UK where I am based. I had to choose permanent resident on my study application too, although my situation is the same as yours really with cards needing to be renewed each 3 years.

I wouldn't complicate things with India. You're in Spain, legally living and working, and it is where your family is. Although you have to renew your cards, your status is not temporary, therefore as recommended by others, submit your application from Spain. It's where your ties are.

 

[lovepreet_singh]

I understand what you're saying because the only option on their form that actually fits is "permanent resident". The other categories aren't even close. They technically don't have PR in Spain, or the UK where I am based. I had to choose permanent resident on my study application too, although my situation is the same as yours really with cards needing to be renewed each 3 years.

I wouldn't complicate things with India. You're in Spain, legally living and working, and it is where your family is. Although you have to renew your cards, your status is not temporary, therefore as recommended by others, submit your application from Spain. It's where your ties are.

you applied from u.k ?? you live with your family??

 

[lovepreet_singh]

I understand what you're saying because the only option on their form that actually fits is "permanent resident". The other categories aren't even close. They technically don't have PR in Spain, or the UK where I am based. I had to choose permanent resident on my study application too, although my situation is the same as yours really with cards needing to be renewed each 3 years.

I wouldn't complicate things with India. You're in Spain, legally living and working, and it is where your family is. Although you have to renew your cards, your status is not temporary, therefore as recommended by others, submit your application from Spain. It's where your ties are.

PR card has to renew periodically,,, that will not be permanent.... only permanent status is the passport of that country
otherwise, other immigration status in another country is a PR card with renewals until getting a passport
we can do one thing... call directly to IRCC and ask them what kind of immigration status do you want in another country

 

[sqfit]

PR card has to renew periodically,,, that will not be permanent.... only permanent status is the passport of that country
otherwise, other immigration status in another country is a PR card with renewals until getting a passport
we can do one thing... call directly to IRCC and ask them what kind of immigration status do you want in another country

Actually no! Permanent residence card is not considered temporary, read about it. If a PR can eventually lead to a citizenship it’s never temporary. In your case you legitimately have a permanent residence of a country which you can become a citizen of, applying from India can work against you given your entire family lives in Spain and you can do whatever you want to there.
We don’t know about rules of the place you currently live in, you should research about it and not compare your case with people from the Middle East. If IRCC questions us we literally have a proper reason to give them that is we are here just for work but for you it’s hard to explain why you are applying from a country when you reside elsewhere with a PR. Do your own research. Applicants from the Middle East have been doing that (you can read in the threads here) and provide the justification that we don’t “live” here just are here for work and show real ties to our home country. In your case if your family and your real ties are with Spain, applying from India is not the best for you. Also having a PR from Spain can work in your favor if you make a strong case saying “you already have permanent residence in a country like Spain so your purpose is to study in Canada and return because you eventually want to be a citizen of Spain and have been working towards it as your family lives there too” why not monetize that?
Honestly you don’t have a complicated case and by going the other route you are making it.

 

[Shmiler]

I live in the UK with my husband, a British citizen from birth. As sqfit says, you are on a path that can lead to citizenship. It is not a temporary status like worker/student and is nothing like the status of someone in the Middle East. You're in a European country. In the UK there is a further leave to remain and indefinite leave to remain spousal path, which effectively is permanent residence but without uk passport/citizenship. If I did a test I can apply for UK passport and citizenship. Same as PRs in Canada if they stay for 3 years and do the Canadian equivalent.

I already applied for my Canadian study permit and selected "permanent resident" in the drop down, as really that is what I am in the UK. My husband will be remaining in the UK, we have property here and the only reason I'm going to Canada is for a career change course that is not available here.

Anyway, I shall let you know how how I get on. Eligibility review hasn't even started yet.

 

[Catmom]

Actually no! Permanent residence card is not considered temporary, read about it. If a PR can eventually lead to a citizenship it’s never temporary. In your case you legitimately have a permanent residence of a country which you can become a citizen of, applying from India can work against you given your entire family lives in Spain and you can do whatever you want to there.
We don’t know about rules of the place you currently live in, you should research about it and not compare your case with people from the Middle East. If IRCC questions us we literally have a proper reason to give them that is we are here just for work but for you it’s hard to explain why you are applying from a country when you reside elsewhere with a PR. Do your own research. Applicants from the Middle East have been doing that (you can read in the threads here) and provide the justification that we don’t “live” here just are here for work and show real ties to our home country. In your case if your family and your real ties are with Spain, applying from India is not the best for you. Also having a PR from Spain can work in your favor if you make a strong case saying “you already have permanent residence in a country like Spain so your purpose is to study in Canada and return because you eventually want to be a citizen of Spain and have been working towards it as your family lives there too” why not monetize that?
Honestly you don’t have a complicated case and by going the other route you are making it.

Awesome. Have you applied already? Keep us posted. Rooting for you