Travelling via Egypt
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Covid does not distinguish between who needs to be Canada urgently or not. In the UK, covid was more or less under control until the indian variant came along due to flights still allowed from India, infact it's causing so much concern that the government is planning local lockdowns again.
people till today are not realizing it. more people are tested positive after they land in Canada. especially from india. that rise alot of concerns for Canada. you are not only risking life of citizens and residents there but alos bring the risk of deadly variants. especially when Canada now reached the peak of covid cases. besides students are not in urgent need to travel they can defer and travel next semester. health is more important. unless you are health worker or in critical work position. people are afraid that they won't be enter Canada again and trying to travel as soon as possible. especially pgwp holders. that is why government extended pgwp. and i think they will do that again in the future. they are prioritizing students for PR. so opportunities will come eventually. Becaus sadly most people don't respect travel regulations and share accommodations or quarantine. hence the bans. i don't think it's unfair. it is just how the world operates now and we have to adapt with it
ok ok slow down folks, is there really any one who has a genuine experience of travelling through that route? or any one else willing to bell the cat?
As far as i know UK has opened up also if Canadians are so concerned they shouldn't have opened the borders its simple. The whole world has moved on so you should too and covid will never go away anyway as virus will always mutate so take care and live with precautions.
I agree with you but what i am saying is that canada can create stronger quarantine system. Instead of 3 day hotel quarantine they can convert it into 14 days so no issue will occur. With stricter quarantine rules they could've keep the borders open and Canadians safe.
Sadly, legit travellers suffer as collateral damage due to some who always try to circumvent the rules. If all travellers would have the decency to follow protocols, then travel bans may not have been implemented in the first place. IMHO, bans are not targeting legit travellers. However, there is no way to distinguish between those who follow and those who don’t. In this forum alone, there have been lots of discussions before on complete strangers arranging to quarantine together. Which just defies common sense.
The travel ban may not be 100% effective. But at least the authorities are trying something to contain the situation. Travelling is a basic right. Being admitted to a foreign country is a privilege. I do hope we don’t have to arrive in a situation wherein we have to choose between a person’s right to travel and another person’s right to be protected from any disease.
See i agree that every country has duty to protect its people from disease which is this much contagious but there are ways by which everyone can be satisfied. Sadly i don't think this will happen but i do have one suggestion for canadian government and that is 14 days strict hotel quarantine with reasonable cost and proper testing. Just a day ago indian national carier told that fro travelling we will need RT-PCR negative report with QR code so they can check authenticity of that report and also it should be ICMR approved. So this kind of step will helpful and we all know that if any country closes their border permanently they will not be able to open it as even one case and they will need to close the border. At the end of the day i also want to travel safely and there are many people like me who are ready to follow all the protocols but just let us enter that's it.
3 days hotel quarantine costs at least $1000. 14 days hotel quarantine will cost at least $5000. Do you really think that's reasonable for any one ? $5000 gets you a decent used car.
Well i am not saying the cost i am saying they can implement something like this.
I agree with you that strict 14 days quarantine should be implemented, not just in Canada, but everywhere. Again, as per a study, PCR test does not guarantee 100% accuracy, with false-negative even from 4 to 5 days after exposure to the virus. 4 to 5 days is just the median when symptoms manifest. Some even take 11.5 days before manifestation. So, if somebody has been exposed to the virus today and travelling tomorrow, and assuming another day of travel, there is still risk that that person may test negative in a PCR test. And since test shows negative, that gives a false sense of security. What happens then? Now factor in those who try to circumvent even the basic of protocols, after testing “negative” I doubt if that person would still continue the additional 11 days? Imagine somebody like that quarantining with a complete stranger, and after 3 days of mandatory quarantine, goes out their separate ways and into their respective friends/families whom they would share living accommodation. Even if that person quarantined alone the 3-days mandatory, if tested negative, that person would now think its completely safe to not continue with the 11 day quarantine.
That's why i suggest 14 days strict quarantine not 3+11. It will give revenue to hotel industry plus aviation sector and those who wants to travel they can with peace of mind.
With hospitals already over capacity Canada can't afford to open up travel even with strict quarantine. You will still have infected people who will end up in hospital.
But then who are you expecting will pay for this?
I am all in favour of this as long as those traveling are willing to pay the full bill for the hotel stay. Canadian taxpayers shouldn't have to subsidize this.
If you're proposing a 14 day hotel quarantine as a solution, then you need to be personally willing to spend $4000 to $5000 to make this possible.