I'm not really in favour of spamming someone's email account. So, we'd have to look at other ways of bringing people to notice our plight.
Citizenship test: Collective action required, or expect endless delays, years. Example of the effective lobbyng of people awaiting spousal sponsorship
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I recommend avoid sharing this document publicly as it looks a lot of details were left not redacted.
Huh? There is nothing wrong in sharing this document publicly. I obtained this document by filing an ATIP request. Whatever is shown in that document is eligible for public viewing.
If everything were to be redacted, then what's the using of getting these documents anyways? Whatever needs to be redacted was redacted. Whatever remains is completely safe to be shared publicly.
Exposing internal email addresses and URLs certainly is not a safe measure to display let alone in an opened shared document online.
There are times where we would need to determine right and wrong whether it is for the sake of protecting front end employees or the system in general.
I'm pretty sure there are other places to discuss this type of subjects, but having such data exposed might not be ideal for an ordinary users to have access to.
Maybe you are not familiar with the ATIP, and I quote below for your reference:
"Any Canadian citizen, permanent resident or individual present in Canada has the right to access their personal information held by government institutions that are subject to the Privacy Act."
Make an access to information or personal information request
@rajkamalmohanram is only exercising his/her right to know what is going on with the Citizenship program. Just like you or everyone else going through this process. if emails and names were left unredacted, that's because it is public information.
You are being silly. Who are these "ordinary users"? Members of the public? Well, ATIP seems to believe that the information they made available can be available to a member of the public. And, surely, ATIP knows better than you (a random "ordinary user") what can and what cannot be made available to the public. Presumably any "ordinary user" making a similar request would get similar results.
ATIP has included the names of some public officials and their work (not *private*) email addresses. What is the big deal with that? You, as a random "ordinary user" should not be more concerned with any notion of "protecting front end employees or the system in general" than ATIP is. ATIP are specifically trained at that. That is what they do day after day. They know what to redact and what not to redact. You, on other hand, are just .... a random ordinary user. Stay in your lane!
Very useful and interesting information! What has IRCC been doing to improve things? Apparently not much. In the file you have provided you will find an amazing note stating that digitization of citizenship grant is not a priority, and, also amazingly stated is that contrary to what we have been led to believe, even officers working from home have to go into the office and view physical files before finalizing a decision. It also appears that is only a very minimal attempt to prioritize completions by order of receipt. Nor is there any attempt to take into account such things as the fact that some people don't even have to take a test.
The impression I got after going through the whole file is that for the most part IRCC wants things to be as nearly the same as pre-covid and barely trying to adapt to the current situation. Emails show bureaucrats arguing endlessly about some straightforward things while missing some fairly straightforward solutions (if they are serious about adapting).
The only "positive" thing in the information is that Central Processing is now creating files at a faster rate. But with nothing happening in a timely fashion in the rest of the pipeline, this just means that the backlog is growing!
The overall picture is quite gloomy in terms of how long anything will take.
Technology is scalable. If it works for 5k online test takers, it can work for 50k (with suitable staffing for completeness and cheating detection checks). I doubt the bottleneck is technology or Marie Josee Dorion.
My money is on constraints placed on IRCC by the federal employees union. It is now increasingly common in collective bargaining agreements, to make automation investments conditional on union approval, as it weakens their negotiating position long-term.
My money is on constraints placed on IRCC by the federal employees union. It is now increasingly common in collective bargaining agreements, to make automation investments conditional on union approval, as it weakens their negotiating position long-term.
The department handling these requests knows the content of the document inside out. It took them three months to put together and redact/review this information. They likely would have spent more time on redacting, checking and re-checking the document to ensure that any information that is not supposed to be public is redacted than the time taken to compile this documentation.
There are no legal (or moral) restrictions in sharing this document to the public. I don't have any security clearance - I am an ordinary resident of this country just like you. None if this is classified information. This information is NOT available on their website but it can be safely shared. You do realize that they wouldn't give away any information that is classified to a normal member of the public, right? If I can get this information from them, I have every right to share it with the public without any repercussions whatsoever. If you made a similar request, you'll get the same response from them.
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Happening slowly. I have been very occupied with other things. Will try to make some good progress this weekend.
Hello everyone,
Finally, I have just received the test invitation from Kitchener office. What a long wait, however, I am pleased that at least things are moving. Best of luck to all those who are still waiting, and have faith my friends. We are almost at the finish line.
Feb 2018 applicant.
Finally, I have just received the test invitation from Kitchener office. What a long wait, however, I am pleased that at least things are moving. Best of luck to all those who are still waiting, and have faith my friends. We are almost at the finish line.
Feb 2018 applicant.
