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sgp1986

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So, with how things are going, it doesn't seem like the hotel quarantine will be going away anytime soon, especially with the summer coming up, right? Are you allowed to book the hotel in advance or is it only within 2 weeks of when you'll be there?
 

Western Mountain Man

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So, with how things are going, it doesn't seem like the hotel quarantine will be going away anytime soon, especially with the summer coming up, right? Are you allowed to book the hotel in advance or is it only within 2 weeks of when you'll be there?
The quarantine hotels are not going away any time soon.
If you absolutely have to travel then book the hotel of your choice at least 2 weeks in advance. The 3-day resort fees are non refundable and if
your flights change the better ones are more flexible and will try to accommodate you as long as you stay with them.

You ask how things are going?
Read some of the previous posts and that should give you some ideas,
 

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Hi everyone, I know its a bit off topic, but what is the average time to get your day 10 test results? I have given my test on Wednesday and have still not received the result. My 14 day period ends tomorrow and not sure as to the next steps as I am at an airbnb and reservation ends on Monday.
 

canuck78

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Hi everyone, I know its a bit off topic, but what is the average time to get your day 10 test results? I have given my test on Wednesday and have still not received the result. My 14 day period ends tomorrow and not sure as to the next steps as I am at an airbnb and reservation ends on Monday.
Really depends where you are.
 

Western Mountain Man

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First, I want to say that I'm deeply sympathetic to those stuck in this situation - whatever the need to do this from a policy / public health perspective, it truly is difficult for the individuals who get caught out. (So far this pandemic has left me and my family stuck three or four times already)

And I really am sad to say 'I told you so' - but yeah, the first reactions that "what about X?" are often wrong.

There will be other ways and countries to transit through, etc. Not all of them will be 'closed'. Some of them will. All of them will be painful for the people who get caught. And no policy is perfect.
Transit through other countries is risky now especially if something unexpected happens.
Once things settle down regarding variant flights there may be some opportunities for safe travel in the near future.

Lots of pain going around in some areas so be safe!
 
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Idrissrafd

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First premium loophole :) I don’t know if the Canadian government will put any pressure on them, but I don’t think so. Congrats.

Someone asked on Twitter :
I have read on your website that there is PCR test facility during transit for Pakistanis traveling to Canada. if Transit time for flights is 3 or 4 hours, will that be enough to get the results?
Etihad airways replied :
Hi there, yes, we have a designated area for testing and results are back within 1.5 - 2 hours. Staff are on hand to assist all our guests. *Kat
Source :
Another article :
https://www.blogto.com/travel/2021/04/canada-bans-flights-india-and-pakistan-loophole/

Someone could fly from Mumbai to Frankfurt, for instance, before continuing on their way to Toronto — where mandatory 14-day-long quarantine rules still remain very much in effect for all international travellers.

Of course, many travellers are now choosing to fly into Buffalo or Detroit instead, where they can drive across the border and avoid the costly hotel quarantine process mandated by Canada's federal government for incoming air passengers.


Presently, I couldn't find better (only for Pakistanis) than the premium loophole : from Dubai, with Etihad. Everything is included.
 
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canuck78

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First premium loophole :) I don’t know if the Canadian government will put any pressure on them, but I don’t think so. Congrats.

Someone asked on Twitter :


Etihad airways replied :


Source :
Another article :
https://www.blogto.com/travel/2021/04/canada-bans-flights-india-and-pakistan-loophole/

Someone could fly from Mumbai to Frankfurt, for instance, before continuing on their way to Toronto — where mandatory 14-day-long quarantine rules still remain very much in effect for all international travellers.

Of course, many travellers are now choosing to fly into Buffalo or Detroit instead, where they can drive across the border and avoid the costly hotel quarantine process mandated by Canada's federal government for incoming air passengers.


Presently, I couldn't find better (only for Pakistanis) than the premium loophole : from Dubai, with Etihad. Everything is included.
At the very least people will need to quarantine in Frankfurt and get another PCR test. Many will also need to get a visa to enter Germany. Others will have to get a US visa and get a new PCR test in the US. What if people test positive in the US so can’t enter Canada? Are they prepared for the potential of millions of dollars of medical bills if they end up in a US ICU? Even a short trip to the hospital could be 10k easily.
 

Idrissrafd

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At the very least people will need to quarantine in Frankfurt and get another PCR test. Many will also need to get a visa to enter Germany. Others will have to get a US visa and get a new PCR test in the US. What if people test positive in the US so can’t enter Canada? Are they prepared for the potential of millions of dollars of medical bills if they end up in a US ICU? Even a short trip to the hospital could be 10k easily.
Totally agree, except for Dubai with Etihad. Canadians do not need a visa. PR also, because it's a transit. Etihad is offering everything at the airport. That's why I called it premium loophole. However, with USA and Europe, it's risky for Indians, like you pointed.
 

canuck78

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Totally agree, except for Dubai with Etihad. Canadians do not need a visa. PR also, because it's a transit. Etihad is offering everything at the airport. That's why I called it premium loophole. However, with USA and Europe, it's risky for Indians, like you pointed.
Are you sure the PCR testing is available in the transit area? Just a few days ago it was not in the transit area. The tweet does not indicate it is in the transit area. Looks more like you have to enter Dubai you have to follow their quarantine rules. Would get something in writing from Eithad versus trusting a tweet.

Quarantine guidelines for travellers to Abu Dhabi
The following guidelines are effective from 17 January 2021.



You do not need to quarantine when you arrive at Abu Dhabi if:

  • you have travelled on a direct flight from these countries (PDF, 350 KB); meanwhile, you must go for an RT-PCR test on day 6 and day 12 of your arrival into the emirate.
  • you are a UAE national or a resident taking part in the UAE’s National Vaccination Programme and travelling from any of the above countries. In this case, you will need to go for an RT-PCR test on day 6.


You need to quarantine if you have travelled from countries that are not listed above, at home or a hotel for 10 days.



If you have arrived from a country that the UAE authorities deem are high-risk, then you will be subject to quarantine at a government facility.



You will be provided with a medically-approved wristband for the duration of your quarantine, after you clear immigration.



In this case, you will need to do the RT-PCR test on day 8.
 
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Idrissrafd

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Are you sure the PCR testing is available in the transit area? Just a few days ago it was not in the transit area. The tweet does not indicate it is in the transit area. Looks more like you have to enter Dubai you have to follow their quarantine rules. Would get something in writing from Eithad versus trusting a tweet.

Quarantine guidelines for travellers to Abu Dhabi
The following guidelines are effective from 17 January 2021.



You do not need to quarantine when you arrive at Abu Dhabi if:

  • you have travelled on a direct flight from these countries (PDF, 350 KB); meanwhile, you must go for an RT-PCR test on day 6 and day 12 of your arrival into the emirate.
  • you are a UAE national or a resident taking part in the UAE’s National Vaccination Programme and travelling from any of the above countries. In this case, you will need to go for an RT-PCR test on day 6.


You need to quarantine if you have travelled from countries that are not listed above, at home or a hotel for 10 days.



If you have arrived from a country that the UAE authorities deem are high-risk, then you will be subject to quarantine at a government facility.



You will be provided with a medically-approved wristband for the duration of your quarantine, after you clear immigration.



In this case, you will need to do the RT-PCR test on day 8.
The tweet is front Etihad, but I will ask them also by email. I will keep you informed.
 

sgp1986

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Nowhere in that article does it say anything about vaccine passports or more restrictions. The closest thing to it is where it says the border restrictions work only when the local rules and testing are in place to make the border restrictions useful
 
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