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JULY 2020 *Outland* Spousal Sponsorship

Guriwar

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Oct 31, 2020
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The application status went from In Process to Application Received again, it is a little strange, wondering what it is about. Ottawa VO.
It means Ottawa has sent your application to another VO. Usually people get notification in email whenever secondary VO transfers file to another one. If you don't get any email, you can ask them by calling.
 

gtd1986

Star Member
Dec 26, 2019
63
15
Hey guys,
IRCC requested some more documents for myself (the sponsor) to show proof of my time spent in China. I was there for 7 years and have gathered what evidence I can. I think it will be enough but still paranoid. I'm writing a cover letter as some have suggested, explaining the documents I was unable to gather (don't have old passport with visas).

In addition to the docs they wanted from China, they also asked for "proof of my residency in Canada". What do you think would satisfy that? They've already got pics of current passport, & drivers licence. I have a full time job here now and have filed my taxes and been an upstanding citizen. Do they want a piece of mail? A pic of me in front of my house?
 

Aishas

Star Member
Aug 22, 2020
135
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Hello friends,
I have a quick question plz...so I just got my citizenship and now I am planning to get marry a guy from Pakistan and now bcoz I am a citizen can I stay in Pakistan while file my spousal case or should I need to stay in Canada? Is there any income requirements?
Waiting plz
Thanks
 

Idrissrafd

Hero Member
Aug 12, 2020
299
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Hey guys,
IRCC requested some more documents for myself (the sponsor) to show proof of my time spent in China. I was there for 7 years and have gathered what evidence I can. I think it will be enough but still paranoid. I'm writing a cover letter as some have suggested, explaining the documents I was unable to gather (don't have old passport with visas).

In addition to the docs they wanted from China, they also asked for "proof of my residency in Canada". What do you think would satisfy that? They've already got pics of current passport, & drivers licence. I have a full time job here now and have filed my taxes and been an upstanding citizen. Do they want a piece of mail? A pic of me in front of my house?
Are you serious ? Are they stupid or what ? Your job should be enough...

and why are they obsessed by your stay in China ? I don’t get it. Your previous address is not a big deal, why are they making it a big deal ?
 

engine900

Newbie
Dec 17, 2020
3
7
Hey guys,
IRCC requested some more documents for myself (the sponsor) to show proof of my time spent in China. I was there for 7 years and have gathered what evidence I can. I think it will be enough but still paranoid. I'm writing a cover letter as some have suggested, explaining the documents I was unable to gather (don't have old passport with visas).

In addition to the docs they wanted from China, they also asked for "proof of my residency in Canada". What do you think would satisfy that? They've already got pics of current passport, & drivers licence. I have a full time job here now and have filed my taxes and been an upstanding citizen. Do they want a piece of mail? A pic of me in front of my house?
For your China's stay, you can also enclose a China-border crossing record, which is free, physical, and offical with stamp. This can be requested from the local Chinese bureau managing border crossing.

Proof of residency also includes payroll, utility bills, rent agreements, credit card bills... something occured financially and periodically
 

armoured

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Feb 1, 2015
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In addition to the docs they wanted from China, they also asked for "proof of my residency in Canada". What do you think would satisfy that? They've already got pics of current passport, & drivers licence. I have a full time job here now and have filed my taxes and been an upstanding citizen. Do they want a piece of mail? A pic of me in front of my house?
It is an odd request but things like a lease should support, if your employer will give a letter, etc. Is there some background to this like you only recently returned to Canada?

Since both parts of this request are not entirely typical, strongly suggest you order GCMS notes. You want to know eventually from the notes of the visa officer/case analyst what is behind this.

If you get the gcms notes and later understand what they're after, you can submit additional information - I mean that hyou didn't mention what deadline they gave you to respond but gcms notes may come after you've provided the additional info.

I didn't follow all the information request about your time in China, but presumably you can get some employment record or confirmation from your employer in China?
 

armoured

VIP Member
Feb 1, 2015
17,287
8,889
Hey guys,
IRCC requested some more documents for myself (the sponsor) to show proof of my time spent in China. I was there for 7 years and have gathered what evidence I can. I think it will be enough but still paranoid. I'm writing a cover letter as some have suggested, explaining the documents I was unable to gather (don't have old passport with visas).

In addition to the docs they wanted from China, they also asked for "proof of my residency in Canada". What do you think would satisfy that? They've already got pics of current passport, & drivers licence. I have a full time job here now and have filed my taxes and been an upstanding citizen. Do they want a piece of mail? A pic of me in front of my house?
Are you a citizen or a PR? Are you fully compliant with your residency obligation?
 

gtd1986

Star Member
Dec 26, 2019
63
15
It is an odd request but things like a lease should support, if your employer will give a letter, etc. Is there some background to this like you only recently returned to Canada?

Since both parts of this request are not entirely typical, strongly suggest you order GCMS notes. You want to know eventually from the notes of the visa officer/case analyst what is behind this.

If you get the gcms notes and later understand what they're after, you can submit additional information - I mean that hyou didn't mention what deadline they gave you to respond but gcms notes may come after you've provided the additional info.

I didn't follow all the information request about your time in China, but presumably you can get some employment record or confirmation from your employer in China?
Thanks for the useful answers everyone. Indeed I am a citizen, 3rd generation born and raised. I returned to Canada in August 2019 so not too recent. What are GCMS notes and how do I order them? somewhere on the GCKey page I presume?

The deadline they gave me to submit additional info was April 10th. I'll likely be uploading them tonight or tomorrow. I have already submitted some info from my former employer in China in the original application, and even used my boss there as a reference/affidavit acknowledging my relationship with my wife was real (we were co-workers).

I'm submitting the following as additional info:
  • a cover letter explaining everything I'm submitting and the reasoning for some things I am unable to provide
  • copies of old contracts with my former job in China (3 in total)
  • copy of an old residence permit from old passport (from 2012...all I have)
  • official invitation letter my old school sent me which I needed to apply for visa while in Canada
  • copy of life insurance policy in China (translated)
  • copy of "foreigners Chinese work permit" filled out by Chinese police station with my old address on it (translated)
  • flight receipts from entering/exiting China (from 2016 & 2017)
  • copy of my current bank statement and car insurance statement (for Canada)
  • a pic of my damaged passport - to validate my excuse for not being able to get it back when I applied for a new one
I'll look into getting that China border-crossing thing. Maybe i'll mention it in my cover letter that I am trying to get a hold of it. I hope they don't think I'm sending too much as I don't want to annoy the person responsible for the most important thing in my life

Thanks guys
 

armoured

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Feb 1, 2015
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Thanks for the useful answers everyone. Indeed I am a citizen, 3rd generation born and raised. I returned to Canada in August 2019 so not too recent. What are GCMS notes and how do I order them? somewhere on the GCKey page I presume?
GCMS notes is IRCC's global case management system. You order the notes through access to information. It will be a lot of pages of mostly admin stuff. There will be a paragraph or two of actual evaluation and hopefully the info as to what they're looking for and why the additional document request.

You order them here - costs $5, 30 days usually, can take longer.
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/transparency/access-information-privacy/requests-information-act.html

I haven't the slightest what they're after. You might look through your application and see if you've got any errors in there, dates transposed, who knows?