Canadian Parent Lost Citizenship Papers

[Human Errer]

Does anyone know how to proceed if they are applying for proof of Canadian citizenship as a person born to a naturalized Canadian who has lost their proof of citizenship? Does my mom have to apply for and receive her proof of citizenship before I can apply and obtain mine? The consulate told me to send both applications at the same time and ask for expedited processing on my mother’s application based on these circumstances. Does that sound right?

Also - does anybody inow how she can get her proof of citizenship without any documentation at all? Would Nova Scotia (where she was naturalized in 1975) still have a record of her naturalization, and if do, how would she obtain those records without any documentation of her own?

 

[hawk39]

Does anyone know how to proceed if they are applying for proof of Canadian citizenship as a person born to a naturalized Canadian who has lost their proof of citizenship? Does my mom have to apply for and receive her proof of citizenship before I can apply and obtain mine? The consulate told me to send both applications at the same time and ask for expedited processing on my mother’s application based on these circumstances. Does that sound right?

It's worth a shot to apply at the same time; the only things I think you should do for sure are to send both of your applications in the same envelope, and to include a letter of explanation as to why you don't have your mother's citizenship information. Your mother would be applying for a replacement to her lost citizenship document.

You can try asking for urgent processing, but the reason must be acceptable to warrant the urgency, like your job requires citizenship. If your mother is not planning on moving back to Canada, I don't think this would have a high chance of success, as this would be seen as more of a benefit to you than her. If the application for urgent processing is denied, you're probably looking at the whole process taking well over a year or more, especially with the current pandemic.

Also - does anybody inow how she can get her proof of citizenship without any documentation at all? Would Nova Scotia (where she was naturalized in 1975) still have a record of her naturalization, and if do, how would she obtain those records without any documentation of her own?

They'll make every effort to determine her citizenship status with whatever information she provides, but the less specific that information is, the longer the process will take. Naturalization is a federal process, not a provincial matter; where in Canada she was naturalized is not relevant. IRCC would have the record of her naturalization, so she would either apply for a replacement document, or apply for a search of citizenship records.

 

[Human Errer]

It's worth a shot to apply at the same time; the only things I think you should do for sure are to send both of your applications in the same envelope, and to include a letter of explanation as to why you don't have your mother's citizenship information. Your mother would be applying for a replacement to her lost citizenship document.

You can try asking for urgent processing, but the reason must be acceptable to warrant the urgency, like your job requires citizenship. If your mother is not planning on moving back to Canada, I don't think this would have a high chance of success, as this would be seen as more of a benefit to you than her. If the application for urgent processing is denied, you're probably looking at the whole process taking well over a year or more, especially with the current pandemic.


They'll make every effort to determine her citizenship status with whatever information she provides, but the less specific that information is, the longer the process will take. Naturalization is a federal process, not a provincial matter; where in Canada she was naturalized is not relevant. IRCC would have the record of her naturalization, so she would either apply for a replacement document, or apply for a search of citizenship records.

I don’t know how to chop the quote up, so I’ll just say “thank you very much for your detailed and informative response!”

How bad would it be, considering these circumstances, if I just presented myself at a POE and requested refugee or asylum status or something while the applications are being processed? Would they detain me at a facility until my citizenship status could be verified, or would they boot me back out into the US? I know this isn’t a “legitimate” use of the IRPA, but I don’t think it’s a crime, and having severe underlying conditions (COPD, a history of heart disease, type 2 diabetes, and now slight obesity due to inability to work/exercise because of the other conditions) while living in the US is a truly terrifying situation right now. I’d rather be safe in a Canadian detention center than buried in a US cemetery.

 

[Copingwithlife]

I don’t know how to chop the quote up, so I’ll just say “thank you very much for your detailed and informative response!”

How bad would it be, considering these circumstances, if I just presented myself at a POE and requested refugee or asylum status or something while the applications are being processed? Would they detain me at a facility until my citizenship status could be verified, or would they boot me back out into the US? I know this isn’t a “legitimate” use of the IRPA, but I don’t think it’s a crime, and having severe underlying conditions (COPD, a history of heart disease, type 2 diabetes, and now slight obesity due to inability to work/exercise because of the other conditions) while living in the US is a truly terrifying situation right now. I’d rather be safe in a Canadian detention center than buried in a US cemetery.

No, not a crime , but totally ridiculous

 

[Human Errer]

No, not a crime , but totally ridiculous

I’m fairly certain that if you were in my situation and facing an avoidable, premature death because you were surrounded by brainwashed maniacs who fully believe that covid is a “hoax” because their narcissistic, wannabe dictator president told them it is that you would be doing whatever you could to get away, as well. It is truly terrifying for someone in my position to just go grocery shopping, or to the hospital (as I need to do on a regular basis because of my underlying conditions). I’d rather be ridiculed a little by my fellow Canadians and potentially detained for a short while than die, and so would almost anybody else in my position.

 

[armoured]

Even as a Canadian citizen, you would not get health care coverage immediately.

 

[Human Errer]

Even as a Canadian citizen, you would not get health care coverage immediately.

That’s not why I’m moving there - I already have Medicaid and Medicare which pay for all my medical expenses. However, that doesn’t sound very good as far as continuation of care is concerned. Could you elaborate, please? It has always been my understanding that necessary care was readily available and elective procedures were what you might have to wait a while for. Are you saying that a Canadian hospital would likely turn me away if I were having an acute health crisis? Or do you mean that it would take a while to establish care with a primary care physician?

 

[armoured]

That’s not why I’m moving there - I already have Medicaid and Medicare which pay for all my medical expenses. However, that doesn’t sound very good as far as continuation of care is concerned. Could you elaborate, please? It has always been my understanding that necessary care was readily available and elective procedures were what you might have to wait a while for. Are you saying that a Canadian hospital would likely turn me away if I were having an acute health crisis? Or do you mean that it would take a while to establish care with a primary care physician?

You'd have to check each province.

Basically in most provinces there is a waiting period/minimum residence requirement after returning to reside before being covered by the provincial medical plan. (There are some special measures during covid that may be relevant, but again, depends on province)

No, Canadian hospitals would not turn you away if urgent care needed. Expenses may be subject to recovery, though.

 

[Human Errer]

You'd have to check each province.

Basically in most provinces there is a waiting period/minimum residence requirement after returning to reside before being covered by the provincial medical plan. (There are some special measures during covid that may be relevant, but again, depends on province)

No, Canadian hospitals would not turn you away if urgent care needed. Expenses may be subject to recovery, though.

Interesting. Thank you.

I’m giving serious consideration to Alberta, as I believe they have that AISH program which would provide me with a slightly better standard of living than the pittance I currently get from SSDI if I were to qualify for it, which I believe I would. It’s just a bit of a drive from the east coast...

As far as “subject to recovery” is concerned, do you mean that they might charge me for the hospital visit if I were found to not be a citizen, or either way?

 

[armoured]

Interesting. Thank you.

I’m giving serious consideration to Alberta, as I believe they have that AISH program which would provide me with a slightly better standard of living than the pittance I currently get from SSDI if I were to qualify for it, which I believe I would. It’s just a bit of a drive from the east coast...

As far as “subject to recovery” is concerned, do you mean that they might charge me for the hospital visit if I were found to not be a citizen, or either way?

Subject to recovery would mean recovering costs from anyone not covered by the health plan, citizen or no.

 

[Human Errer]

Subject to recovery would mean recovering costs from anyone not covered by the health plan, citizen or no.

Do you happen to know what the typical waiting period is? I’m sure it varies by province, but it shouldn’t vary that widely, right? Where would I find that info?

 

[armoured]

Do you happen to know what the typical waiting period is? I’m sure it varies by province, but it shouldn’t vary that widely, right? Where would I find that info?

Google. I believe in many provinces six months or more.

 

[Buletruck]

Interesting. Thank you.

I’m giving serious consideration to Alberta, as I believe they have that AISH program which would provide me with a slightly better standard of living than the pittance I currently get from SSDI if I were to qualify for it, which I believe I would. It’s just a bit of a drive from the east coast...

As far as “subject to recovery” is concerned, do you mean that they might charge me for the hospital visit if I were found to not be a citizen, or either way?

Keep in mind that until you can provide proof of Canadian citizenship, you won’t qualify for AISH.

 

[Human Errer]

Keep in mind that until you can provide proof of Canadian citizenship, you won’t qualify for AISH.

Why do I get the feeling that 99% of the responses I’m getting are from people who are hoping to discourage anyone/everyone from entering Canada at all costs, regardless of their circumstances? I get the impression that a lot of the “VIP Members” here are Canadian xenophobes.

I was born a Canadian citizen. I have every right to move to Canada if I so choose, and I will have just as much right to be there - and to enjoy the same rights as every other Canadian - when I get there as any other person born a Canadian citizen.

I don’t think I’m going to listen to anybody from this site who doesn’t automatically back their statements up with links to reputable sources anymore. If you have a link to back up what you’ve said, please share it. I’m not accusing you directly of having nefarious motives, but your curtness and the fact that you’ve only offered a negative opinion that was seemingly designed to discourage me from even trying tells me that may not be far from the truth.

 

[Son-of-A-Gun]

If my recollection is good, no coverage in Quebec before COPR. Three (3) months waiting period after COPR.