ALL ABOUT GCMS - HOW TO ORDER, READ, & GENERAL QUESTIONS ANSWERED

[Dell2018]

All security related info in your GCMS notes is redacted. When there is a redaction, it will be under a specific section of the Access to Information Act, usually s 15 or 16.

Do you think it is useful to order CBSA notes at this stage?

 

[legalfalcon]

Do you think it is useful to order CBSA notes at this stage?

CBSA notes should only be requested if you are in enhanced security screening, i.e. after your eligibility was conclusively passed. by an office, an it has been 3-4 months since then.

In most cases security is usually cleared within 3-5 weeks.

 

[caipsnotes]

@legalfalcon, @caipsnotes, I have noticed following in my GCMS notes

APPLICATION: 5
Created Date:
Created By:
Updated Date:
Updated By:
Field Name: Security
Action: Updated
Old Value:
New Value
Office: London

APPLICATION: 7
Created Date:
Created By:
Updated Date:
Updated By:
Field Name: Security
Action: Updated
Old Value: Not Started
New Value: (it seems something has been redacted from here)
Office: London


There is S.15(1) on some pages. Please help me understand the above

The email accompanying the GCMS notes would have mentioned something like the message below; s15 is an exemption taken to withhold information from disclosure. All exemptions are listed in this grid https://help.gcmsnotes.com/code/exemption-grid

If your Eligibility Review is Passed by an officer then Security Screening will start in due course; do you see that in the Assessment section on page#2 and the "Notes" section as well?

The processing of your request is now complete. Please refer to the following for an explanation as to what was released:

Disposition of your records: Disclosed in part

Section(s) of the Act applied (if applicable): 15(1) The detection, prevention or suppression of subversive or hostile activities

 

[Psyoptica]

The criminality for most is usually done along with R10 early in the process. However, if your are an inland applicant and did not submit your RCMP PCC or if your biometrics is pending, then this status is normal.

The eligibility takes place in two stages. First an analyst or an assistant will review and make a recommendation. This can be recommended passed / Met / etc. This recommendation is then reviewed by an officer who makes a final determination. The terminology used such as met / recommended passed / passed an no relevance.

Instead see your assessment on page 2 of the GCMS notes and see the corresponding notes in the last 2-5 pages.

If your most recent note for eligibility looks like this, then your eligibility is conclusively passed by an officer.

In my case, I found that there was a review required for POF but on page 2, the eligibility status was "Passed". Not sure if my application is recommended passed or review required

 

[Psyoptica]

CBSA notes should only be requested if you are in enhanced security screening, i.e. after your eligibility was conclusively passed. by an office, an it has been 3-4 months since then.

In most cases security is usually cleared within 3-5 weeks.

I don't think this is correct. Almost everyone I know from my country (Pakistan) who applied for PR got stuck in security screening for longer than 6 months.
I think nationality has more to do with SS than anything else.

 

[caipsnotes]

In my case, I found that there was a review required for POF but on page 2, the eligibility status was "Passed". Not sure if my application is recommended passed or review required

Review the last few pages of your GCMS notes under the "Notes" section. These "Notes" are numbered and dated from the most recent to the oldest. If it looks the last sample here then it's not conclusively passed; it has to say OFFICER REVIEW.

 

[Psyoptica]

Review the last few pages of your GCMS notes under the "Notes" section. These "Notes" are numbered and dated from the most recent to the oldest. If it looks the last sample here then it's not conclusively passed; it has to say OFFICER REVIEW.

no it doesn't have an officer's review yet. It looks like this:

 

[caipsnotes]

no it doesn't have an officer's review yet. It looks like this:

Thanks for sharing. Correct then, not yet and just POF review which is fairly common.

 

[caipsnotes]

I don't think this is correct. Almost everyone I know from my country (Pakistan) who applied for PR got stuck in security screening for longer than 6 months.
I think nationality has more to do with SS than anything else.

It surely is a factor.

CBSA has released a redacted copy of their security screening manual which for reference is also available at https://cbsa-screening-manual.gcmsnotes.com/

 

[Psyoptica]

It surely is a factor.

CBSA has released a redacted copy of their security screening manual which for reference is also available at https://cbsa-screening-manual.gcmsnotes.com/

Thanks for sharing this.

 

[legalfalcon]

I don't think this is correct. Almost everyone I know from my country (Pakistan) who applied for PR got stuck in security screening for longer than 6 months.
I think nationality has more to do with SS than anything else.

See the details post in security screening at https://bit.ly/3mHY4f6

Nationality is one of the many factors. However, is not the sole factor and many applicants form Pakistan have seen their security screening conclude within a few weeks.

No federal agency can place any individual in security screening just because they come form a specific country, this is Constitutional Charter Violation, and discrimination based on the country of origin.

Some individuals from a specific country may have a high rate of landing in comprehensive security screening. A perusal of the comments at the following link will show you many applicants, and the recurring patterns:

https://search.open.canada.ca/en/sd/id/fe08f4b3-4226-4cf4-a32e-3734b78f5c73

Iranian nationals have also complained about the delays in their applications, and their petition presented before the Parliament is available at https://www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Committee/421/CIMM/Brief/BR10271411/br-external/IranianCanadianCongress-Summary-9959346-e.pdf

 

[legalfalcon]

In my case, I found that there was a review required for POF but on page 2, the eligibility status was "Passed". Not sure if my application is recommended passed or review required

See the post above on this page with the examples of the notes that you will see when your eligibility is conclusively passed by an officer.

#2,521

The eligibility takes place in two stages. First an analyst or an assistant will review and make a recommendation. This can be recommended passed / Met / etc. This recommendation is then reviewed by an officer who makes a final determination. The terminology used such as met / recommended passed / passed an no relevance.

 

[Dell2018]

The email accompanying the GCMS notes would have mentioned something like the message below; s15 is an exemption taken to withhold information from disclosure.

@legalfacon @caipsnotes thanks for the reply. Yes s15(1) part is exactly the way you have mentioned.

Please help me understand whether the eligibility is conclusively passed or not. Following is the notes portion:

NOTES

NOTES: 1
Text: Updated clean PAK PCsreceived. No apparent concerns on A36.

NOTES: 2
Text: ------- Photograph: Tried maximum but couldn't captured according to standard

NOTES: 3
Text: Requestletter sent and meds issued. 30 days.

NOTES: 4
Text: Biometrics sent. London_UK please request: updated P/Cs, meds.

NOTES: 5
Created Date: 2020/03/02 02:33:34
Created By: RM03131
Updated Date: 2020/03/02 02:36:55
Updated By: RM03131
Restricted: No
Label: Entered in Error
Office: London
Text: London_UK please request: updated P/Cs, biometrics, meds.

NOTES: 6
Text:

NOTES: 7
Text: | <-----this signals to me that many details have been hidden

NOTES: 8
Text:
Initial assessment. Schedule 4 provided. Funds: $27K.Civil/I.D. docs appear in order. Applicant(s) has/have not
identified any other qualifying dependants for examination. Note: Should additional dependants be sponsored
at a later date they will be excluded as per R117(9)(d). Clear P/C France (Dec17/May18) x 2 provided. Clear P/C
Pakistan (Apr19) x 2 provided. “Biometrics o/s. *Meds, biometrics pending

NOTES: 9
Text: Email received via GCMS (Provided Report) via Call Centre. *~Review Required. LOE and Education
information provided. Email address updated. No response provided.

NOTES: 10
Text: Email received via GCMS (Provided Report) via Call Centre. *~Review Required. LOE and Education
information provided. Email address updated. No response provided.

NOTES: 11
Text: Application type: PNP Date received: No Rep File forwarded to EVAL-CT

NOTES: 12 - 16
Text contains me and my dependents' name and our intended occupations

If your Eligibility Review is Passed by an officer then Security Screening will start in due course; do you see that in the Assessment section on page#2 and the "Notes" section as well?

There is no info of this type on page#2. my impression is that it has been hidden. at some place it seems somewhere in the middle of the notes i.e. pg 72 of 127, it says:

APPLICATION: 5
Created Date:
Created By:
Updated Date:
Updated By:
Field Name: Security
Action: Updated
Old Value:
New Value
Office: London
APPLICATION: 6
Created Date:
Created By:
Updated Date:
Updated By:
Field Name: Eligibility
Action: Updated
Old Value: In Progress
New Value: Passed
Office: London
APPLICATION: 7
Created Date:
Created By:
Updated Date:
Updated By:
Field Name: Security
Action: Updated
Old Value: Not Started
New Value:
Office: London
APPLICATION: 8
Created Date:
Created By:
Updated Date:
Updated By:
Field Name: Eligibility
Action: Updated
Old Value: Not Started
New Value: In Progress
Office: London

One more thing, I don't understand why they have hidden all the dates related to security.

 

[caipsnotes]

@legalfacon @caipsnotes thanks for the reply. Yes s15(1) part is exactly the way you have mentioned.

Please help me understand whether the eligibility is conclusively passed or not. Following is the notes portion:

NOTES

NOTES: 1
Text: Updated clean PAK PCsreceived. No apparent concerns on A36.

NOTES: 2
Text: ------- Photograph: Tried maximum but couldn't captured according to standard

NOTES: 3
Text: Requestletter sent and meds issued. 30 days.

NOTES: 4
Text: Biometrics sent. London_UK please request: updated P/Cs, meds.

NOTES: 5
Created Date: 2020/03/02 02:33:34
Created By: RM03131
Updated Date: 2020/03/02 02:36:55
Updated By: RM03131
Restricted: No
Label: Entered in Error
Office: London
Text: London_UK please request: updated P/Cs, biometrics, meds.

NOTES: 6
Text:

NOTES: 7
Text: | <-----this signals to me that many details have been hidden

NOTES: 8
Text:
Initial assessment. Schedule 4 provided. Funds: $27K.Civil/I.D. docs appear in order. Applicant(s) has/have not
identified any other qualifying dependants for examination. Note: Should additional dependants be sponsored
at a later date they will be excluded as per R117(9)(d). Clear P/C France (Dec17/May18) x 2 provided. Clear P/C
Pakistan (Apr19) x 2 provided. “Biometrics o/s. *Meds, biometrics pending

NOTES: 9
Text: Email received via GCMS (Provided Report) via Call Centre. *~Review Required. LOE and Education
information provided. Email address updated. No response provided.

NOTES: 10
Text: Email received via GCMS (Provided Report) via Call Centre. *~Review Required. LOE and Education
information provided. Email address updated. No response provided.

NOTES: 11
Text: Application type: PNP Date received: No Rep File forwarded to EVAL-CT

NOTES: 12 - 16
Text contains me and my dependents' name and our intended occupations

If your Eligibility Review is Passed by an officer then Security Screening will start in due course; do you see that in the Assessment section on page#2 and the "Notes" section as well?

There is no info of this type on page#2. my impression is that it has been hidden. at some place it seems somewhere in the middle of the notes i.e. pg 72 of 127, it says:

APPLICATION: 5
Created Date:
Created By:
Updated Date:
Updated By:
Field Name: Security
Action: Updated
Old Value:
New Value
Office: London
APPLICATION: 6
Created Date:
Created By:
Updated Date:
Updated By:
Field Name: Eligibility
Action: Updated
Old Value: In Progress
New Value: Passed
Office: London
APPLICATION: 7
Created Date:
Created By:
Updated Date:
Updated By:
Field Name: Security
Action: Updated
Old Value: Not Started
New Value:
Office: London
APPLICATION: 8
Created Date:
Created By:
Updated Date:
Updated By:
Field Name: Eligibility
Action: Updated
Old Value: Not Started
New Value: In Progress
Office: London

One more thing, I don't understand why they have hidden all the dates related to security.

Some samples of page#2 Assessment section are here , yours should indicate Passed as well and you can confirm that by looking for "OFFICER REVIEW" in the "Notes" section in the last few pages of your Gcms Notes. Anything hidden (redacted) would have been explained by the exemption code IRCC invoked.

 

[legalfalcon]

@legalfacon @caipsnotes thanks for the reply. Yes s15(1) part is exactly the way you have mentioned.

Please help me understand whether the eligibility is conclusively passed or not. Following is the notes portion:

NOTES

NOTES: 1
Text: Updated clean PAK PCsreceived. No apparent concerns on A36.

NOTES: 2
Text: ------- Photograph: Tried maximum but couldn't captured according to standard

NOTES: 3
Text: Requestletter sent and meds issued. 30 days.

NOTES: 4
Text: Biometrics sent. London_UK please request: updated P/Cs, meds.

NOTES: 5
Created Date: 2020/03/02 02:33:34
Created By: RM03131
Updated Date: 2020/03/02 02:36:55
Updated By: RM03131
Restricted: No
Label: Entered in Error
Office: London
Text: London_UK please request: updated P/Cs, biometrics, meds.

NOTES: 6
Text:

NOTES: 7
Text: | <-----this signals to me that many details have been hidden

NOTES: 8
Text:
Initial assessment. Schedule 4 provided. Funds: $27K.Civil/I.D. docs appear in order. Applicant(s) has/have not
identified any other qualifying dependants for examination. Note: Should additional dependants be sponsored
at a later date they will be excluded as per R117(9)(d). Clear P/C France (Dec17/May18) x 2 provided. Clear P/C
Pakistan (Apr19) x 2 provided. “Biometrics o/s. *Meds, biometrics pending

NOTES: 9
Text: Email received via GCMS (Provided Report) via Call Centre. *~Review Required. LOE and Education
information provided. Email address updated. No response provided.

NOTES: 10
Text: Email received via GCMS (Provided Report) via Call Centre. *~Review Required. LOE and Education
information provided. Email address updated. No response provided.

NOTES: 11
Text: Application type: PNP Date received: No Rep File forwarded to EVAL-CT

NOTES: 12 - 16
Text contains me and my dependents' name and our intended occupations

If your Eligibility Review is Passed by an officer then Security Screening will start in due course; do you see that in the Assessment section on page#2 and the "Notes" section as well?

There is no info of this type on page#2. my impression is that it has been hidden. at some place it seems somewhere in the middle of the notes i.e. pg 72 of 127, it says:

APPLICATION: 5
Created Date:
Created By:
Updated Date:
Updated By:
Field Name: Security
Action: Updated
Old Value:
New Value
Office: London
APPLICATION: 6
Created Date:
Created By:
Updated Date:
Updated By:
Field Name: Eligibility
Action: Updated
Old Value: In Progress
New Value: Passed
Office: London
APPLICATION: 7
Created Date:
Created By:
Updated Date:
Updated By:
Field Name: Security
Action: Updated
Old Value: Not Started
New Value:
Office: London
APPLICATION: 8
Created Date:
Created By:
Updated Date:
Updated By:
Field Name: Eligibility
Action: Updated
Old Value: Not Started
New Value: In Progress
Office: London

One more thing, I don't understand why they have hidden all the dates related to security.

On page 2 you have assessments, this is the summary of your stages. You may see eligibility as:



However, you will have to see the officer's notes to know if this is a recommendation or conclusively passed.


Compare your notes with the samples posted in my post above at #2,521

If you see "officer's review," then your eligibility is conclusively passed. If it is a note by a case processing agent or analyst, then it is a recommendation.

Also see https://bit.ly/2EuIK4m for a detailed explanation of when eligibility is passed with samples at the end of the post.

Hope this answers and clarifies your doubts.