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[Captain789]

Okay, but if I am the only applicant, I am the sponsor? So should it work for me in express entry?

 

[passenger19]

Okay, but if I am the only applicant, I am the sponsor? So should it work for me in express entry?

So you’re just an applicant. I’m not sure but you should try to get access. Use the number they gave you. I mean, your case number from AOR1.

 

[Captain789]

So you’re just an applicant. I’m not sure but you should try to get access. Use the number they gave you. I mean, your case number from AOR1.

Thank you) I have tried both UCI and the Application number - none of them work at the moment. May be later they will..

 

[mzona]

Hello, thank you for sharing your experience. Do you recommend to become more persistent, once the 6 months period expire and nothing happens?

definitely not. IT takes them a couple of days to process your whole file and yet the delay is 12 months. Literally, I ordered GCMS notes in January that came after my file was finished, and they say the file just sat there until Jan 26 [nothing happened between April and December] and then they processed it by Jan 30. So if it sits there, it's not because they're doing stuff in it continuously for 12 months. I suspect that the file will not even be touched until its turn comes. BTW, it can come any time - some people got processed after 3-4 month in Warsaw. I had to wait 9. So I would not bother them before 12 months - it would look like you're just trying to jump the line.

 

[armoured]

IT takes them a couple of days to process your whole file and yet the delay is 12 months. Literally, I ordered GCMS notes in January that came after my file was finished, and they say the file just sat there until Jan 26 [nothing happened between April and December] and then they processed it by Jan 30. So if it sits there, it's not because they're doing stuff in it continuously for 12 months. I suspect that the file will not even be touched until its turn comes.

Are you certain that absolutely nothing happened in that time? There were no background checks or security checks farmed out to other agencies / partners?

Now, I'm not in the business of defending IRCC approach and I wish it was faster. There are certainly periods where files sit and wait for someone to get to them (i.e. they are in a queue).

But to the extent we know about the process, we know that there are requests and inquiries that need to be made of other agencies (CBSA, police, security agencies, foreign partners, some domestic / provincial agencies if e.g. they need to check about social assistance). Work with some agencies and partners is pretty simple - database inquiries - but even for those, there can be backlogs and queues. Work with other partners and inquiries take longer and may require more manual work - again subject to backlogs and differing priorities (meaning not under control of IRCC even if they wanted to).

Then there are more complicated cases that may require much more than a database inquiry. Take a simple example of someone whose name happens to coincide with someone on a 'problem list'. It seems trivial but will require someone somewhere to make the manual decision that no, these are not the same people. Add to complexity and difficulty if the original files have mistakes or problems and the flag is 'may be an associate of...'. And some countries will simply have a higher degree of security and background checks that may take quite a while, particularly if the individual has a complicated personal background (armed forces of government work, lots of travel to 'atypical' countries that don't share reliable info with canadian agencies).

Anyway, sorry this is long. But there's lots of reasons why some files can take longer, and it's not 'just' because some office is sitting on the file doing nothing. Sure, they're not opening the file and looking at it every day, they're waiting for something else to happen (and dealing with other files while they wait).

 

[Captain789]

definitely not. IT takes them a couple of days to process your whole file and yet the delay is 12 months. Literally, I ordered GCMS notes in January that came after my file was finished, and they say the file just sat there until Jan 26 [nothing happened between April and December] and then they processed it by Jan 30. So if it sits there, it's not because they're doing stuff in it continuously for 12 months. I suspect that the file will not even be touched until its turn comes. BTW, it can come any time - some people got processed after 3-4 month in Warsaw. I had to wait 9. So I would not bother them before 12 months - it would look like you're just trying to jump the line.

Hmm, but the timeline is 6 month not 12? So it would be the right thing to bother them after 6-7 months, not 12

 

[Captain789]

Are you certain that absolutely nothing happened in that time? There were no background checks or security checks farmed out to other agencies / partners?

Now, I'm not in the business of defending IRCC approach and I wish it was faster. There are certainly periods where files sit and wait for someone to get to them (i.e. they are in a queue).

But to the extent we know about the process, we know that there are requests and inquiries that need to be made of other agencies (CBSA, police, security agencies, foreign partners, some domestic / provincial agencies if e.g. they need to check about social assistance). Work with some agencies and partners is pretty simple - database inquiries - but even for those, there can be backlogs and queues. Work with other partners and inquiries take longer and may require more manual work - again subject to backlogs and differing priorities (meaning not under control of IRCC even if they wanted to).

Then there are more complicated cases that may require much more than a database inquiry. Take a simple example of someone whose name happens to coincide with someone on a 'problem list'. It seems trivial but will require someone somewhere to make the manual decision that no, these are not the same people. Add to complexity and difficulty if the original files have mistakes or problems and the flag is 'may be an associate of...'. And some countries will simply have a higher degree of security and background checks that may take quite a while, particularly if the individual has a complicated personal background (armed forces of government work, lots of travel to 'atypical' countries that don't share reliable info with canadian agencies).

Anyway, sorry this is long. But there's lots of reasons why some files can take longer, and it's not 'just' because some office is sitting on the file doing nothing. Sure, they're not opening the file and looking at it every day, they're waiting for something else to happen (and dealing with other files while they wait).

Yes, yet I heard recently that a couple with dozens of trips abroad was approved within 2 months, just saying!

 

[armoured]

Yes, yet I heard recently that a couple with dozens of trips abroad was approved within 2 months, just saying!

I think it depends where the trips were and lengths of time and purpose. Trips to North Korea or Syria are different than trips to USA or France. Some travel may actually help an application as "in the databases", some will undoubtedly lead to more scrutiny on eg security side.

 

[Captain789]

I think it depends where the trips were and lengths of time and purpose. Trips to North Korea or Syria are different than trips to USA or France. Some travel may actually help an application as "in the databases", some will undoubtedly lead to more scrutiny on eg security side.

hahaha

 

[passenger19]

Hey guys!
Don't you think that's a bit weird that Warsaw VO hasn't sent us an official letter (AOR2), but ECAS says In Process since Feb 20?

 

[Captain789]

Well I don't know if the EE participants are receiving one. Apparently we neither do have access to ECAS or AOR2, but I had another GU today.

 

[armoured]

Hey guys!
Don't you think that's a bit weird that Warsaw VO hasn't sent us an official letter (AOR2), but ECAS says In Process since Feb 20?

I received the official letter of transfer to Warsaw in early December and nothing since (save the medical passed showing up in GCMS).

 

[passenger19]

I received the official letter of transfer to Warsaw in early December and nothing since (save the medical passed showing up in GCMS).

What’s your ECAS saying? Application received or In process?

 

[armoured]

What’s your ECAS saying? Application received or In process?

In process as it has for ages.

 

[armoured]

In process as it has for ages.

Ah this is in gcms. I have never been able to get into ecas.