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canadacalling777

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I think you do not know the difference between bust and burst. Dictionary please.

Anyhow, RCMP has hands in many things and won't publish that on Wikipedia. One should assume no security agency should. They are overseas for a reason and immigration is one of them. If they were only dealing with intra-Canadian issues then they won't need liaison offices overseas. The wrong perception people have is that RCMP is like Toronto Police. It is not.
Its height of ignorance on your end.

Each agency has its authority clearly defined in the legislative Act through which it was formed. It is the same for all agencies, be it RCMP, CSIS, IRCC, or CBSA. These agencies cannot go beyond the scope of what has been given in the act, and if they do, it is unconstitutional and beyond their jurisdiction.

For your convenience I did post the scope and jurisdiction of RCMP, but as usual, you make assumptions without bothering to read.

RCMP - Royal Canadian Mounted Police Act

Mandate of RCMP

18 It is the duty of members who are peace officers, subject to the orders of the Commissioner,

  • (a) to perform all duties that are assigned to peace officers in relation to the preservation of the peace, the prevention of crime and of offences against the laws of Canada and the laws in force in any province in which they may be employed, and the apprehension of criminals and offenders and others who may be lawfully taken into custody;

  • (b) to execute all warrants, and perform all duties and services in relation thereto, that may, under this Act or the laws of Canada or the laws in force in any province, be lawfully executed and performed by peace officers;

  • (c) to perform all duties that may be lawfully performed by peace officers in relation to the escort and conveyance of convicts and other persons in custody to or from any courts, places of punishment or confinement, asylums or other places; and

  • (d) to perform such other duties and functions as are prescribed by the Governor in Council or the Commissioner.
RCMP is the federal law enforcement agency, just as what FBI is for the US federal government.

It is not an intelligence agency. They may have an intelligence wing to tackle crime in Canada, but the task of gathering intelligence is specifically assigned to CSIS, read the CSIS Act.


  • [*]12 (1) The Service shall collect, by investigation or otherwise, to the extent that it is strictly necessary, and analyse and retain information and intelligence respecting activities that may on reasonable grounds be suspected of constituting threats to the security of Canada and, in relation thereto, shall report to and advise the Government of Canada.

    [*]Marginal note:No territorial limit

    (2) For greater certainty, the Service may perform its duties and functions under subsection (1) within or outside Canada.
The jurisdiction (area in which these agencies can work) is clearly defined.

The link from where you copied all the liaison offices of RCMP, also states following if you would have just bothered to read:

Deployed to 26 countries, liaison officers (LOs) and analysts deployed overseas (ADOs) work in strategic locations around the world. They act as the link between law enforcement agencies in Canada and in their host country. Being posted around the world allows LOs and ADOs to share best practices and to communicate the RCMP's mission, vision and values.
When the RCMP engages another country in pursuing major investigations, LOs can help. They use their knowledge of the host country to support domestic and international partners.
While they play a significant role in Canadian investigations that reach beyond our borders, LOs have no jurisdiction abroad. They can only advance Canadian investigations with the approval of foreign authorities.

Posting LOs to strategic locations around the world provides Canada with an international link that is crucial in today's policing environment. It also helps contribute to the safety and security of Canadians here at home.

Liaison officers:




    • Help major Canadian investigative inquiries in foreign countries.
    • Maintain the exchange of criminal intelligence between the RCMP and foreign authorities.
    • Provide help to foreign agencies in investigations that affect Canada.
    • Coordinate and assist RCMP employees travelling abroad on official business.
    • Represent the RCMP at international conferences and seminars.
    • Help with training and capacity-building initiatives in foreign countries.
Many agencies have liaison offices to share criminal databases, information, curtail money laundering, etc. Just don't create things out of thin air.

READ!!! :mad::mad::mad::mad:and stop posting incorrect, misleading information.
 
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Puppytail01

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AOR: December 14, 2018. No biometrics required. After 8.5months: “Background check is in progress. We will contact you if more information is required”.
I was also requested IMM4506 family information) and bank statements from July 2018 to present (maybe because I was unemployed for the past year).
Does this happen after Eligibility is passed? Based on past cases, What is the average time to expect PPR?
 

legalfalcon

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AOR: December 14, 2018. No biometrics required. After 8.5months: “Background check is in progress. We will contact you if more information is required”.
I was also requested IMM4506 family information) and bank statements from July 2018 to present (maybe because I was unemployed for the past year).
Does this happen after Eligibility is passed? Based on past cases, What is the average time to expect PPR?
The documents that you were requested is typical of those that are requested during eligibility. Is your eligibility passed?
Only after the eligibility is passed, will the security start.
 

Puppytail01

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The documents that you were requested is typical of those that are requested during eligibility. Is your eligibility passed?
Only after the eligibility is passed, will the security start.
My Eligibility was “Recommended Pass” since Early August, I assumed that it was passed before the background check changed to “In Progress”. I didn’t call them to confirm.
 

legalfalcon

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AOR Received.
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17-08-2015
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My Eligibility was “Recommended Pass” since Early August, I assumed that it was passed before the background check changed to “In Progress”. I didn’t call them to confirm.
The eligibility takes place in 2 stages. First an analyst or an assistant will review and make a recommendation. This is when you see recommended passed / review required etc. Only after an officer makes a final determination, is it set to passed. And only after an officer's determination, will the security commence.

So check whether your eligibility has passed. If it has, then you are in security. Usually security for most applications takes on an average of 1-3 months. However, some applicants do get stuck in security and for them it can take way longer.
 
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torontob

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Its height of ignorance on your end.

Each agency has its authority clearly defined in the legislative Act through which it was formed. It is the same for all agencies, be it RCMP, CSIS, IRCC, or CBSA. These agencies cannot go beyond the scope of what has been given in the act, and if they do, it is unconstitutional and beyond their jurisdiction.

For your convenience I did post the scope and jurisdiction of RCMP, but as usual, you make assumptions without bothering to read.

RCMP - Royal Canadian Mounted Police Act

Mandate of RCMP

18 It is the duty of members who are peace officers, subject to the orders of the Commissioner,

  • (a) to perform all duties that are assigned to peace officers in relation to the preservation of the peace, the prevention of crime and of offences against the laws of Canada and the laws in force in any province in which they may be employed, and the apprehension of criminals and offenders and others who may be lawfully taken into custody;

  • (b) to execute all warrants, and perform all duties and services in relation thereto, that may, under this Act or the laws of Canada or the laws in force in any province, be lawfully executed and performed by peace officers;

  • (c) to perform all duties that may be lawfully performed by peace officers in relation to the escort and conveyance of convicts and other persons in custody to or from any courts, places of punishment or confinement, asylums or other places; and

  • (d) to perform such other duties and functions as are prescribed by the Governor in Council or the Commissioner.
RCMP is the federal law enforcement agency, just as what FBI is for the US federal government.

It is not an intelligence agency. They may have an intelligence wing to tackle crime in Canada, but the task of gathering intelligence is specifically assigned to CSIS, read the CSIS Act.

The jurisdiction (area in which these agencies can work) is clearly defined.

The link from where you copied all the liaison offices of RCMP, also states following if you would have just bothered to read:





Many agencies have liaison offices to share criminal databases, information, curtail money laundering, etc. Just don't create things out of thin air.

READ!!! :mad::mad::mad::mad:and stop posting incorrect, misleading information.
Happy you referred to dictionary and learned a new word today.

Now, ask LegalFalcon what else to write. Time to swap usernames?!
 

canadacalling777

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6421
App. Filed.......
05-11-2018
Happy you referred to dictionary and learned a new word today.

Now, ask LegalFalcon what else to write. Time to swap usernames?!
I am always happy to learn, be it from senior members here or a newbie, but alas you will never. Since you ran out of copying and pasting stuff and passing it off as your assumptions and research form the forum.

Go read, before you post and make a mockery of yourself.

007 style!!! :D:D:D:D
 
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PrayforPR0211

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Dear all, have several questions regarding the security check issue.

1. I called CIC 3 times , every time the agent told me my profile is under security check. My question is whether “security check” she mentioned same as “security screening”, which means might take more than 12 months?

2. Agent told me I passed eligibility on July 18, but I got ADR request on July 30. And the weird thing was they only give me 2 days to upload documents. Is this normal ? Why CIC asked for additional documents after I passed the eligibility?

3. I saw some forums in this post, some friends mentioned it will take 1, 3,6 12 months to process the security check. So when should I count from? After eligibility passed? Or after AOR?

Many thanks in advance!
 

legalfalcon

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Med's Done....
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Dear all, have several questions regarding the security check issue.

1. I called CIC 3 times , every time the agent told me my profile is under security check. My question is whether “security check” she mentioned same as “security screening”, which means might take more than 12 months?

2. Agent told me I passed eligibility on July 18, but I got ADR request on July 30. And the weird thing was they only give me 2 days to upload documents. Is this normal ? Why CIC asked for additional documents after I passed the eligibility?

3. I saw some forums in this post, some friends mentioned it will take 1, 3,6 12 months to process the security check. So when should I count from? After eligibility passed? Or after AOR?

Many thanks in advance!
1. Yes, if your eligibility has passed. Security or BGC is criminality + Security. Criminality happens before eligibility and security after eligibility.

2. See your GCMS notes.

3. Most security is done within 1-3 weeks. Only some applications get stuck for longer. So if 2 months have passed by since your eligibility was passed, you may have to wait longer.
 

PrayforPR0211

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1. Yes, if your eligibility has passed. Security or BGC is criminality + Security. Criminality happens before eligibility and security after eligibility.

2. See your GCMS notes.

3. Most security is done within 1-3 weeks. Only some applications get stuck for longer. So if 2 months have passed by since your eligibility was passed, you may have to wait longer.
Thanks very much for your reply!
I have another question, does CIC review and process my security check after I submitted the Schedule A? Or it happened already before I took this action ? As one agent told me the ADR is a part of Security.

Also, I got a ghost update after I submitted my ADR. Was this the indication for the security screening getting started? It’s been almost 50 days after I submitted Schedule A... does it really mean I will have to wait for more than 1 year??......

BTW, my VO office is Edmonton. Some people said this office processes files slower than other offices.

Thanks again.
 

legalfalcon

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AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Hello,
Will IRCC consult the informations I initially submitted in an application to united state of America while doing background check for Study permit application ????
They may. Canada has info sharing agreements with US, Australia, UK, New Zealand, and it shares data with these countries subject to the respective agreements.
 

Arashm0049

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11 feb 2019
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06 may 2019
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No
Med's Request
14 sep 2019
Med's Done....
20 sep 2019
Interview........
No
Oh! Who said RCMP had no liaison offices. Did I even mention that. You are an expert at cooking up stories from IP address to what people say. Does having Liaison Offices make RCMP an intelligence agency doing "007" work?

I will burst your misinformation campaign right here:

Go read this -

CSIS <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Security_Intelligence_Service>

And yes, the CSIS information is classified, except which is available on open source platforms. They will not be releasing from where they work or where their offices are located with precise information.

CSIS is neither a police agency nor is it a part of the military. As an intelligence agency, the primary role of CSIS is not law enforcement. Investigation of criminal activity is left to the RCMP and local (provincial, regional or municipal) police agencies. CSIS, like counterparts such as the United Kingdom Security Service (MI5) and the United States Central Intelligence Agency(CIA), is a civilian agency. CSIS is subject to review by the Security Intelligence Review Committee (SIRC) as well as other legislative checks and balances. The agency carries out its functions in accordance with the CSIS Act, which governs and defines its powers and activities.

Canadian police, military agencies (see Canadian Forces Intelligence Branch), and numerous other government departments may maintain their own "intelligence" components (i.e. to analyze criminal intelligence or military strategic intelligence). The Department of Foreign Affairs and International Trade maintains a Security and Intelligence Bureau to review and analyze overtly acquired information. The bureau plays a coordinating and policy role. While not an intelligence agency, it is responsible for the security of Department of Foreign Affairs personnel around the world. However, these agencies are not to be confused with the more encompassing work of larger, more dedicated "intelligence agencies" such as CSIS, MI5, MI6, or the CIA.

As Canada's contributor of human intelligence to the Five Eyes, CSIS works closely with the intelligence agencies of the United States, United Kingdom, Australia, and New Zealand. Under the post–World War II Quadripartite (UKUSA) Agreement, intelligence information is shared between the intelligence agencies of these five countries.

Permission to put a subject under surveillance is granted by the Target Approval and Review Committee.

Security Liaison Officers (SLOs) of CSIS are posted at Canadian embassies and consulates to gather security-related intelligence from other nations. This information may be gathered from other national intelligence agencies, law enforcement services and other sources. SLOs also assess potential immigrants to Canada for security issues.

RCMP - Royal Canadian Mounted Police Act

Mandate of RCMP

18 It is the duty of members who are peace officers, subject to the orders of the Commissioner,

  • (a) to perform all duties that are assigned to peace officers in relation to the preservation of the peace, the prevention of crime and of offences against the laws of Canada and the laws in force in any province in which they may be employed, and the apprehension of criminals and offenders and others who may be lawfully taken into custody;

  • (b) to execute all warrants, and perform all duties and services in relation thereto, that may, under this Act or the laws of Canada or the laws in force in any province, be lawfully executed and performed by peace officers;

  • (c) to perform all duties that may be lawfully performed by peace officers in relation to the escort and conveyance of convicts and other persons in custody to or from any courts, places of punishment or confinement, asylums or other places; and

  • (d) to perform such other duties and functions as are prescribed by the Governor in Council or the Commissioner.
RCMP only has authority to investigate, prevent, and prosecute crime; do law enforcement for federal statutes and in federal jurisdictions. Now unless you have your own parliament, and make your own rules, nothing much can be done.

Once again you go to Google, pick up a link and post it and make up your own interpretation without even reading it yourself. You deduct your own statistics from the forum, your own rules, :p:p:p:p:p:p:):):D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D you live in a bubble of your own.

This is an open forum and anyone can post anything, without accountability, go for it.
:p:p:p:p:p
Dear friend
Hope you are well, is it true that 5 country aus, canada, uk, nz, us share the bios together? And what about schengen, is it possible to check every persons travel history from europe? Wouldnt it takes long to check every persons travel history from europe with these huge amount of applications?
I ve just got my medical request and highly have concern about this issue.my wife and I got rejected from sweden last year. Now 6 month after aor and bio just got our medical request. Please let me know if you have more info❤❤ we are in pnp stream
 

K7moda

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@legalfalcon

Hello,
I was wondering if you know what this means. I applied for cbsa notes and got them recently. In the officer notes it says level 2 completed with security and pc outstanding. Then the latest note says only outstanding item security in progress. In the security section it says security screening type: Record check, priority normal, SII indicators: No. Do you know what the SII, and record check mean? Also, it seems security has been started since 30.jan.2019. Is it normal for this type of check? But elgisibility remains blank while criminality and security inprogress even though all pcc are submitted a long while ago.
Thanks a-lot for your help!
P.s its a protected person pr application received may 2018.
 
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Infinitytemmy

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@legalfalcon

Hello,
I was wondering if you know what this means. I applied for cbsa notes and got them recently. In the officer notes it says level 2 completed with security and pc outstanding. Then the latest note says only outstanding item security in progress. In the security section it says security screening type: Record check, priority normal, SII indicators: No. Do you know what the SII, and record check mean? Also, it seems security has been started since 30.jan.2019. Is it normal for this type of check? But elgisibility remains blank while criminality and security inprogress even though all pcc are submitted a long while ago.
Thanks a-lot for your help!
P.s its a protected person pr application received may 2018.
what kind of visa you applied for ?