Thank you for such a detailed response, we met in person way back 2009 he was my brother in laws bandmate and friend, we were at their wedding and was quickly introduced later that night, we had a video of us on that night not hanging out but on that event bec i was busy helping due to the fact that the bride was a close cousin of mine and i was a bridesmaid. He also was busy entertaining and playing in a band that night. I was approved to get it uploaded on youtube and send the link of the video to them.. might me a 10 min video as to prove we were both there but i need to make it thru clips of videos as the wedding coverage were about 30-45 mins... the 2011 chats we made were long gone and we havent kept our old facebook, i did how ever find minimal chats, the visit of 2013 as friends we hung out for a day and never thought of taking a picture because we were just friends but can see an entry exit stamp on passport at the same year around the same time.. we have call logs of 2015 -2016 mostly calls as we dont have much chats back in 2015 because we used Voip apps to call thru internet.. we changed phones as well but luckily i kept my old one in handy so i can take pictures of call logs... this was our first marriage on both parties 6yrs age diff.. it is really scary to have this letter hanging above your head..
Misrepresentation on spousal sponsorship
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We only submitted 5 photos that were taken before our marriage, and from the time I met with my wife to our wedding, it was about a year. The way that I wrote my letter was like to pill off onion skins, layer by layer to demonstrate how our relationship evolved, I actually used the words like "we hangout just like friend (without any benefits)", "then after 6 months into our relationship, I was no longer required to sleep on her couch." And at the core of the onion, you detail your feelings about why you think this man/women is the one that you like to commit with, one of my paragraph was like "
To be sincere and to open up yourself to accept someone into your life is always the most difficult part in a relationship. Fortunately, we did it. From the very beginning, we tried not to hide anything about ourselves from each other. We talked about our life experiences, our own marriage failures, our expectations in this relationship, our families, and etc., we shared good times and bad times together, laughed together, being sad together and being silly together, the comfort zone we built up around us, allowed us to expose our true selves to each other without any hesitation. And that was particularly important to me, because the trust, the safe harbor and the caring that my wife built up for me, really helped me to reinstall my self esteem, and literally speaking, it was my wife that turned my life around and put my life back on track again. For that, I shall be grateful forever to my wife."
You gotta present a picture to the person who review your supporting documents, nobody really cares things like how many times you said I love you to your spouse, you have to use the words to lead the VO into your relationship, use your true feelings to convince the VO that your relationship is genuine at every stage of your relationship. By writing like "Yesterday we spend whole day together to celebrate my birthday, last month I flied to see my husband" isn't powerful enough, and if you repeat the same thing dozen times, it just is rather annoying. Photos can be staged, expenses can be pre-setup, but a strong personal feeling that based on other evidences cannot be faked in most cases.
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Thank you very much for this, very wonderful piece.. I will start to write a letter and will be asking my husband to do the same... I know that we can push through this, and the video showing both of us there would be a strong enough proof to tie us both up at the event where we first met .. Love is powerful thing and you will go for lengths on end to fight for it..Godbless
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I have the video from the event when we met, but chats from 2011 was pretty hard we were friends back then but obv as a teenager you change facebook a lot too and dont have any copies anymore i reached out to my provider they cant backdate that far.. from 2013 we were only friends so we dont take picture as we met up to hang out once..
Hello Guys, Still on the misrepresentation issue. Please read below to understand my issue.
September 2009 - I moved to Canada for studies, my dad was paying for my education
2012 - My dad applied for PR from Nigeria- express entry. Where he listed me as one of his dependant/child
June 2014 - Traveled to Nigeria for summer holidays
August 1,2014 - My boyfriend and i Got Married legally. My dad was against the marriage because of religion
August 1, 2014 - coincidentally My father received PPR(Passport request) as well a form to fill if there has been any change in his family dynamics.He August 8, 2014 - submitted his and the entire family's passport to CIC and didn't mention in the change in family form that me(one of his dependant) was now married.
October 2014 - I landed as a permanent resident, that is my status changed from Study Visa to PR
Feb 2016 - Myhusband and i Performed the traditional/cultural marriage ceremony according to my culture in Nigeria
June 2016 - Filed for PR for my spouse and was denied sponsorship. I had ticked on the form that if i am found ineligible to sponsor that that application be returned. So application was returned. The reasons for denial is that I landed as a single when i was actually married.So i cant sponsor my spouse
October 2018 - I became a citizen. I am now looking to refile the application with a letter explaining that i became PR on account of being my father's dependent so i was not privy to the full details of his application. And i was already residing in Canada as a student. I'm also hoping that the date i became a citizen will count and override the PR date instead.This whole immigration issue and being in a long distance marriage has put a strain on marriage and we are almost at the edge of divorce and i dont see our marriage working out if we don't start living together asap. Please advise
September 2009 - I moved to Canada for studies, my dad was paying for my education
2012 - My dad applied for PR from Nigeria- express entry. Where he listed me as one of his dependant/child
June 2014 - Traveled to Nigeria for summer holidays
August 1,2014 - My boyfriend and i Got Married legally. My dad was against the marriage because of religion
August 1, 2014 - coincidentally My father received PPR(Passport request) as well a form to fill if there has been any change in his family dynamics.He August 8, 2014 - submitted his and the entire family's passport to CIC and didn't mention in the change in family form that me(one of his dependant) was now married.
October 2014 - I landed as a permanent resident, that is my status changed from Study Visa to PR
Feb 2016 - Myhusband and i Performed the traditional/cultural marriage ceremony according to my culture in Nigeria
June 2016 - Filed for PR for my spouse and was denied sponsorship. I had ticked on the form that if i am found ineligible to sponsor that that application be returned. So application was returned. The reasons for denial is that I landed as a single when i was actually married.So i cant sponsor my spouse
October 2018 - I became a citizen. I am now looking to refile the application with a letter explaining that i became PR on account of being my father's dependent so i was not privy to the full details of his application. And i was already residing in Canada as a student. I'm also hoping that the date i became a citizen will count and override the PR date instead.This whole immigration issue and being in a long distance marriage has put a strain on marriage and we are almost at the edge of divorce and i dont see our marriage working out if we don't start living together asap. Please advise
Becoming a Canadian citizen doesn't override anything. Your spouse is still excluded. You were an adult, so you cannot blame it on your father.
This is not a blanket exception for everyone, so stop posting it everywhere. It applies to resettled refugees, those conferred refugee protection in Canada or those who were themselves sponsored as a spouse, partner or dependent child.
Toksybee was a dependent in an economic app, so the pilot does not apply.
As others have said, the fact you are now a citizen changes nothing. You still cannot sponsor your husband.
If you want him to move to Canada, the only realistic option that I see is for him to qualify and apply for PR on his own through an economic immigration stream like Express Entry.
Good luck.
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In addition, the federal government is launching a pilot project that will allow a legal refugee or immigrant who has failed to declare a family member the chance to sponsor undeclared immediate family members.
In the past, failure to declare a family member meant that a legal immigrant couldn’t sponsor that family member in the future.
“The pilot project for sponsorship of previously undeclared family members will last two years — from Sept. 9, 2019, to Sept. 9, 2021. Applications that are already in process will also benefit from this pilot project,” the government said in a statement.
NEW POLICY ON UNDECLARED FAMILY MEMBERS
As many of you are aware, the implementation of the new Immigration Act (IRPA) brought sweeping new changes with respect to those individuals who landed in Canada but left behind spouses and children and did not declare them upon entry. The “penalty” for last four years has been that Canada Immigration will not regard those family members as members of the family class and hence cannot be sponsored. So for example, if a person entered Canada a decade ago but had a secret wife which was never declared, then that person cannot thereafter sponsor the wife as he never told immigration about her in the first place.
While many view this law as harsh resulting in separation of family and children, the immigration department argues that misrepresentation cannot go unpunished, honesty must be encouraged and that all family members are required to be medically examined before someone can be landed.
The embassies around the world has repeatedly refused such sponsorships and appeals to the appeal division have mostly been thrown out for lack of jurisdiction.
The above policy has changed in certain circumstances as per a policy announced by Canada Immigration this week.
In general, section 25 of IRPA permits officers to approve applications on humanitarian and compassionate grounds and provides officer with the authority to overcome an applicant who is an excluded family member.
As such, the new policy:
Recognizes that a visa officer must review humanitarian and compassionate reasons which are exceptional and deserving from a reasonable person’s point of view.
Recognizes Canada’s continuing obligations under the convention on the Rights of the Child. As such, the immigration department must consider the best interests of a child.
Recognizes that H&C factors are appropriate where family members were declared but not medically examined and it is clear that the sponsor made best efforts to facilitate the examination.
Recognizes that H&C factors are appropriate if the sponsor presents compelling reasons for not having disclosed the existence of a family member i.e. When the existence of a child was not disclosed because the child was born out of wedlock in a culture that does not condone it.
While there is still lots of work to be done, there seems to some compassion on the side of visa officers that will permit certain excluded family members from being approved. It is certainly a step forward.
In the past, failure to declare a family member meant that a legal immigrant couldn’t sponsor that family member in the future.
“The pilot project for sponsorship of previously undeclared family members will last two years — from Sept. 9, 2019, to Sept. 9, 2021. Applications that are already in process will also benefit from this pilot project,” the government said in a statement.
NEW POLICY ON UNDECLARED FAMILY MEMBERS
As many of you are aware, the implementation of the new Immigration Act (IRPA) brought sweeping new changes with respect to those individuals who landed in Canada but left behind spouses and children and did not declare them upon entry. The “penalty” for last four years has been that Canada Immigration will not regard those family members as members of the family class and hence cannot be sponsored. So for example, if a person entered Canada a decade ago but had a secret wife which was never declared, then that person cannot thereafter sponsor the wife as he never told immigration about her in the first place.
While many view this law as harsh resulting in separation of family and children, the immigration department argues that misrepresentation cannot go unpunished, honesty must be encouraged and that all family members are required to be medically examined before someone can be landed.
The embassies around the world has repeatedly refused such sponsorships and appeals to the appeal division have mostly been thrown out for lack of jurisdiction.
The above policy has changed in certain circumstances as per a policy announced by Canada Immigration this week.
In general, section 25 of IRPA permits officers to approve applications on humanitarian and compassionate grounds and provides officer with the authority to overcome an applicant who is an excluded family member.
As such, the new policy:
Recognizes that a visa officer must review humanitarian and compassionate reasons which are exceptional and deserving from a reasonable person’s point of view.
Recognizes Canada’s continuing obligations under the convention on the Rights of the Child. As such, the immigration department must consider the best interests of a child.
Recognizes that H&C factors are appropriate where family members were declared but not medically examined and it is clear that the sponsor made best efforts to facilitate the examination.
Recognizes that H&C factors are appropriate if the sponsor presents compelling reasons for not having disclosed the existence of a family member i.e. When the existence of a child was not disclosed because the child was born out of wedlock in a culture that does not condone it.
While there is still lots of work to be done, there seems to some compassion on the side of visa officers that will permit certain excluded family members from being approved. It is certainly a step forward.
I didn't say it was only for refugees. Read what IRCC posted, not what is said in a news article.
Again, the wording dirctly from IRCC is resettled refugees, those conferred refugee protection in Canada or those who were themselves sponsored as a spouse, partner or dependent child.
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Madam let your husband apply through Express entry. You for don put 16 as d date, na where the f up dey be that.
Now that immigration is aware, you will need him to apply on his own.
If you involve your dad, it may affect his own PR due to misrepresenting you, as he put you on his application as single when you were actually married, his PR may be revoked. To avoid such troubles just allow ur husband apply Express entry. Pele