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Rawhide

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skarme312

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excellent link for awareness, wondering how in eyes of Canadian government a daily commuter will be in violation of this ? COmmuter is still owning/renting home in Canada, Paying taxes on goods purchased in Canada, Filling taxes ( which are much higher than USA) and much more...
Why even a thought of this being a bad thing. For most daily commuters there is a decent entry/exit record thanks to the records maintained by the US. Now with Canada recording exits, trips to other countries where an individual exits from Canada will be properly recorded. For PR renewal all of this is a good thing as it is the most impeccable record of presence in accordance with IRCCs definition of a ‘day’. In my opinion this does not impact daily commuter who actually lives in Canada and commutes to the US.
 

Rawhide

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Why even a thought of this being a bad thing. For most daily commuters there is a decent entry/exit record thanks to the records maintained by the US. Now with Canada recording exits, trips to other countries where an individual exits from Canada will be properly recorded. For PR renewal all of this is a good thing as it is the most impeccable record of presence in accordance with IRCCs definition of a ‘day’. In my opinion this does not impact daily commuter who actually lives in Canada and commutes to the US.

I agree, my plan is to commute from GTA to Michigan 2/3 times a month and rest work from home......planning move as soon as better half find
 

harirajmohan

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excellent link for awareness, wondering how in eyes of Canadian government a daily commuter will be in violation of this ? COmmuter is still owning/renting home in Canada, Paying taxes on goods purchased in Canada, Filling taxes ( which are much higher than USA) and much more...
I think that it will be an easy exit on land borders(at least) as 99.99% of people have valid travel documents as they enter/exit US. So i dont think it will consume more than few mins daily, if they implement exit verification.
 

iceman87

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Sep 8, 2015
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excellent link for awareness, wondering how in eyes of Canadian government a daily commuter will be in violation of this ? COmmuter is still owning/renting home in Canada, Paying taxes on goods purchased in Canada, Filling taxes ( which are much higher than USA) and much more...
It what is expected of a new immigrant to Canada anyways. In the end you are still not contributing to Canada's GDP by working in the states.

As this info will be shared by IRCC, you can be sure that they will redefine the very concept of "physical presence in Canada"

Immigration officers rely on "intent" to make their decision off of, the records wont prove that would it?

My 2 cents.
 

Rawhide

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Nov 11, 2017
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It what is expected of a new immigrant to Canada anyways. In the end you are still not contributing to Canada's GDP by working in the states.

As this info will be shared by IRCC, you can be sure that they will redefine the very concept of "physical presence in Canada"

Immigration officers rely on "intent" to make their decision off of, the records wont prove that would it?

My 2 cents.
I feel the other way around, I am bringing in almost double the money into Canada of what I could ever earn in Canada and of course paying a huge part of it in Canadian taxes and not to mention investing this money back into Canada in business. If Canadian government flags it, they will be missing a golden chance.
 

skarme312

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Aug 2, 2017
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It what is expected of a new immigrant to Canada anyways. In the end you are still not contributing to Canada's GDP by working in the states.

As this info will be shared by IRCC, you can be sure that they will redefine the very concept of "physical presence in Canada"

Immigration officers rely on "intent" to make their decision off of, the records wont prove that would it?

My 2 cents.
See the link below-
https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/btb-pdf/ebsiip-asfipi-eng.html
"At land ports of entry, Canada will receive biographic information from the United States (U.S.) on all travellers who enter the U.S., thereby creating a Canadian exit record. In the air mode, Canada will collect exit information through electronic passenger manifests received directly from air carriers. Exit information collected in the air mode will not be shared with the U.S."

NOTHING CHANGES FOR COMMUTERS! As expected they will get exit record from the US which is similar to exit records the US gets from Canada. As far as the definition of physical presence changing... most Canadians/PRs live within 100 miles of the US border. Literally everyone in Windsor goes across the border for work, shopping, and leisure. Most tech companies in Canada are based in the US. Truckers cross the border several times the same day.
 

palak.pandya

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I don't think anything changes for most people on this forum. As per the report, the entry/exit record exchange is already happening for permanent residents of canada who are third country nationals. I think that's almost everyone of us on this form. Below is the text from the link above.

"Currently, Canada and the U.S. exchange biographic entry information on third-country nationals (non U.S. or Canadian citizens), permanent residents of Canada who are not U.S. citizens and lawful permanent residents of the U.S. who are not Canadian citizens at land ports of entry. Canada also shares with the U.S. biographic entry information on U.S. citizens and nationals who enter Canada."
 

rzk0006

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Mar 3, 2019
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I'm planning to start my job in Detroit and stay in windsor in 3 more weeks.Looking for shared accommodation in Windsor for few months before I can bring my family there. Are there any sites to look for shared accommodation?
 

BKM99

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May 2, 2019
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Hello!
I plan to move to Windsor next quarter, and will be working in Detroit.
I wanted to find out that what exactly do I need to re-enter Canada while I haven't got my PR card. My company would expect me to start working as soon as possible once I move. But, I want to provide them realistic date after finding out what travel documents will I need to reenter Canada as the visa stamp is only single entry visa.
Any suggestions for the best way to begin commuting the soonest please?
 

lampbreaker

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Apr 7, 2015
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Hello!
I plan to move to Windsor next quarter, and will be working in Detroit.
I wanted to find out that what exactly do I need to re-enter Canada while I haven't got my PR card. My company would expect me to start working as soon as possible once I move. But, I want to provide them realistic date after finding out what travel documents will I need to reenter Canada as the visa stamp is only single entry visa.
Any suggestions for the best way to begin commuting the soonest please?
PR cards are taking less than 1 month these days (just 1-2 weeks in some cases). However, if traveling by road in your own car (or rented), you can return to Canada without PR card. Your passport and CoPR are sufficient. Moreover, you can also do a soft landing now (or earlier) in order to get PR card and make the permanent move later. Also, keep in mind that border agents on both sides are not always best informed, in the right mood etc. and some times they make trouble for daily commuters. It will be best if you have US Visa instead of relying upon AVR.
 

harirajmohan

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Med's Request
23-Dec-2015
Med's Done....
20-Jan-2016
Passport Req..
26-May-2016 (BGC In Progress 25-May-2016)
VISA ISSUED...
PP Reached Ottawa:27-May-2016, Received:10-Jun-2016
LANDED..........
PR: 09-Jul-2016, PR Card: 17-Aug-2016
Hello!
I plan to move to Windsor next quarter, and will be working in Detroit.
I wanted to find out that what exactly do I need to re-enter Canada while I haven't got my PR card. My company would expect me to start working as soon as possible once I move. But, I want to provide them realistic date after finding out what travel documents will I need to reenter Canada as the visa stamp is only single entry visa.
Any suggestions for the best way to begin commuting the soonest please?
Without PR card it will be few mins delay every time you enter Canada but if your work needs to be started soon then start moving as you dont need to wait for PR card and you can start accumulating the residency period without waiting for PR card as not many get chance to work in border with job. PR card is secondary when it comes to having job on border, as per my opinion. Sometime PR card doesnt even come hence relying on that will not be much helpful for road commute. You will be anyway questioned more for the first month on both sides irrelevant of having PR card / US visa due to new guy suddenly crossing everyday.

If you dont have stamped visa for US then it will be more delay every time you enter because some officers call the office inside before they decide to let you enter the country but not a big deal but its a buggy thing to deal with everyday and some officers will ask everyday on when you get new visa. Canadian side will be nice without having pr card but without valid US visa its more hassle. Do you have valid US visa?
 

Samoinp

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Without PR card it will be few mins delay every time you enter Canada but if your work needs to be started soon then start moving as you dont need to wait for PR card and you can start accumulating the residency period without waiting for PR card as not many get chance to work in border with job. PR card is secondary when it comes to having job on border, as per my opinion. Sometime PR card doesnt even come hence relying on that will not be much helpful for road commute. You will be anyway questioned more for the first month on both sides irrelevant of having PR card / US visa due to new guy suddenly crossing everyday.

If you dont have stamped visa for US then it will be more delay every time you enter because some officers call the office inside before they decide to let you enter the country but not a big deal but its a buggy thing to deal with everyday and some officers will ask everyday on when you get new visa. Canadian side will be nice without having pr card but without valid US visa its more hassle. Do you have valid US visa?
Curious, don't guy run out of pages for stamp after a bunch of travel both ways?
 

harirajmohan

VIP Member
Mar 3, 2015
6,162
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Category........
Visa Office......
Sydney, NS
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
29-May-2015
Doc's Request.
30-Dec-2015 ReminderEmail(PCCs, NewPassport via cse 31-Dec-2015)
Nomination.....
SK 22-Apr-2015
AOR Received.
11-Aug-2015
Med's Request
23-Dec-2015
Med's Done....
20-Jan-2016
Passport Req..
26-May-2016 (BGC In Progress 25-May-2016)
VISA ISSUED...
PP Reached Ottawa:27-May-2016, Received:10-Jun-2016
LANDED..........
PR: 09-Jul-2016, PR Card: 17-Aug-2016
Curious, don't guy run out of pages for stamp after a bunch of travel both ways?
No because they dont stamp every time for regular/daily commuters(at least not for the people via road) till I94 is valid. Not sure about weekly commuters by air.
 
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