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Jaywalker

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All - I finally got my ECA completed just now. Thanks to you all lovely people - otherwise I would have been still stuck in this "On Hold" thing.

Here are my timelines
14 May - Docs received as per DHL in Toronto
18 May - Docs accepted and due date of 8th June
7 June - Status "On Hold" - 1) Verification required for PGDM (2) Bachelor Degree's documents required
8 June: Raised a request through contact us page to send the email verification to the correct email id at my PGDM institute
13 June: WES sends an email again. Again to the wrong email address -Luckily the person receiving the email send it to the relevant person
15 June: Bachelor Degree documents received by WES as per DHL
18 June: Institute could not find email id to respond to on the email. We all presumed that it has to be replied to 1@wes and my institute replied on 1@wes.org
18 June: Bachelor degree docs received and accepted
18 June: Status changes from "On Hold" to "In Progress" with a completion date of 19 June.
19 June: Status changes from "In Progress" to "On Hold" again. Second VDR notification received.
22 June: I was so frustrated that I called customer care multiple times, escalated to everyone possible and nothing changed. Customer care told me that your reply is not worded correctly. Someone said that email is not received etc etc
22 June: My institute received the verification email again-I got the third VDR email. This time my institute received the email with the unique email id.
25 June: Institute replied to the verification email on unique email id.
25 June: Status changes from "On Hold" to "In progress" - Documents being verified and completion date of 25 June
27 June: Status: In Progress - " We are reviewing your evaluation report"
27 June: I received the ECA
 

Nishika22

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@Nishika22 and @RedCherry - did you guys receive any email after wes received and accepted the verification from institute,my case was moved to in progress on June 21 (with completion date of 6/26) but no emails. We are regularly checking the account.
No emails were received once the account status was updated. We just kept checking the account for the next set of alerts...Also, the due date was busted, and the report came a couple of days after the committed timeline...
 
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Palak90

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Wes ref . 3667121

What does meaning of second evolution?
My application shows me like

Reference Number: 3667121
Evaluation Type: Document-by-Document Evaluation (ECA) - Second Evaluation

Please please help me out
 

Nishika22

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Wes ref . 3667121

What does meaning of second evolution?
My application shows me like

Reference Number: 3667121
Evaluation Type: Document-by-Document Evaluation (ECA) - Second Evaluation

Please please help me out
Hi @Palak90, my husband’s account status changed to ‘On hold.’ However, this message (‘Second evaluation’) seems to be a new one. Have you received a VDR email from WES? It states that your documents have been sent to the issuing institution for verification and is signed off by the Director of Evaluations. Sorry I can’t be more precise than that - but the message has me stumped! :(
 

Palak90

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Hi @Palak90, my husband’s account status changed to ‘On hold.’ However, this message (‘Second evaluation’) seems to be a new one. Have you received a VDR email from WES? It states that your documents have been sent to the issuing institution for verification and is signed off by the Director of Evaluations. Sorry I can’t be more precise than that - but the message has me stumped! :(
I have not recevied any message from wes
But what exactly about second evolution?
 

Palak90

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Wes ref . 3667121

What does meaning of second evolution?
My application shows me like

Reference Number: 3667121
Evaluation Type: Document-by-Document Evaluation (ECA) - Second Evaluation
Please please help me out

Please what is this as second evolution?
 

burm7793

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Wes ref . 3667121

What does meaning of second evolution?
My application shows me like

Reference Number: 3667121
Evaluation Type: Document-by-Document Evaluation (ECA) - Second Evaluation

Please please help me out

Please what is this as second evolution?
Please call the WES # +1- 212-966-6311, they might best be able to answer your query.
 

ans234

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Wes has evaluated my Mba as post graduate diploma whereas their degree evaluation tool showed master, can we challenge this? Anyone has any suggestions?
 
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Nishika22

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Wes has evaluated my Mba as post graduate diploma whereas their degree evaluation tool showed master, can we challenge this? Anyone has any suggestions?
Sorry to hear that :( Does your diploma state that AICTE and AIU have certified the course as equivalent to a masters? That was the clincher in my husband’s case, even though his institute (IMT) was not otherwise showing up on the degree evaluation tool.
 

musicholic

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Wait, so the institute does not have to send hardcopies of the verification to the WES!? Cause my friend's university has sent the document but WES has not received it yet and it still says 'On Hold'
 

samikdg

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All - I finally got my ECA completed just now. Thanks to you all lovely people - otherwise I would have been still stuck in this "On Hold" thing.

Here are my timelines
14 May - Docs received as per DHL in Toronto
18 May - Docs accepted and due date of 8th June
7 June - Status "On Hold" - 1) Verification required for PGDM (2) Bachelor Degree's documents required
8 June: Raised a request through contact us page to send the email verification to the correct email id at my PGDM institute
13 June: WES sends an email again. Again to the wrong email address -Luckily the person receiving the email send it to the relevant person
15 June: Bachelor Degree documents received by WES as per DHL
18 June: Institute could not find email id to respond to on the email. We all presumed that it has to be replied to 1@wes and my institute replied on 1@wes.org
18 June: Bachelor degree docs received and accepted
18 June: Status changes from "On Hold" to "In Progress" with a completion date of 19 June.
19 June: Status changes from "In Progress" to "On Hold" again. Second VDR notification received.
22 June: I was so frustrated that I called customer care multiple times, escalated to everyone possible and nothing changed. Customer care told me that your reply is not worded correctly. Someone said that email is not received etc etc
22 June: My institute received the verification email again-I got the third VDR email. This time my institute received the email with the unique email id.
25 June: Institute replied to the verification email on unique email id.
25 June: Status changes from "On Hold" to "In progress" - Documents being verified and completion date of 25 June
27 June: Status: In Progress - " We are reviewing your evaluation report"
27 June: I received the ECA
That's great news, at least two members on this thread have got ECA :)
My status also finally changed to In Progress yesterday after my institute had sent the verification email on 26th to the unique email ID, and now the ECA due date has been given as 18th July.
 
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Palak90

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Wes ref . 3667121

What does meaning of second evolution?
My application shows me like

ReferenceNumber: 3667121
Evaluation Type: Document-by-Document Evaluation (ECA) - Second Evaluation
Please please help me out
 

samikdg

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Wes ref . 3667121

What does meaning of second evolution?
My application shows me like

ReferenceNumber: 3667121
Evaluation Type: Document-by-Document Evaluation (ECA) - Second Evaluation

Please please help me out
I have already replied to you in the group conversation and pasting the same below:
Hi, as @Nishika22 has pointed out on the thread, none of us have faced this situation of "Second Evaluation". So, best option is to call WES Canada on +1 416-972-0070. Call after 10 AM Toronto time, i.e. 7.30 PM IST. Also, if you can provide the screenshot of the full page on your WES profile, someone may try to help better.

If you are genuinely in need of help and not trolling, please reply to our specific comments/queries rather than posting the same thing over and over again!!
 

samikdg

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Sorry to hear that :( Does your diploma state that AICTE and AIU have certified the course as equivalent to a masters? That was the clincher in my husband’s case, even though his institute (IMT) was not otherwise showing up on the degree evaluation tool.
Did your husband have a 3-year or 4-year graduation degree? I have read many cases on this forum where WES evaluates a 3+2 years of education as two Bachelor degrees or one Bachelor degree+ one PG diploma. For 4+2 years, they generally always gives Masters evaluation
 
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musicholic

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Did your husband have a 3-year or 4-year graduation degree? I have read many cases on this forum where WES evaluates a 3+2 years of education as two Bachelor degrees or one Bachelor degree+ one PG diploma. For 4+2 years, they generally always gives Masters evaluation
No they don't give masters. It has to be a AICTE and UGC approved courses. For eg. certain mba colleges like IIMs give PGDM and WES considers this as a bachelors degree and not masters.