Ray of Hope - 84th Draw

[pessacanada]

Hi,
So as I have an ECA assessment of my master's degree only so should I remove all other education from my EE profile and only keep Master's degree there?
Where is the personal history tab? I guess this will be after I get an ITA right?
Thanks

Just leave your master's coz you have an ECA for it. The rest can be mentioned in your personal history during post-ITA application.

 

[Varunaimar]

Let's do some math and check that...
On Jan 18 no. of candidates in the pool with CRS above 410: 16200
On Jan 24, candidates got picked for ITA with CRS 444: 2750
On Feb 1 no. of candidates in the pool with CRS above 410: 16808

Looking at above data, even after giving out 2750 ITAs the number of candidates with CRS above 410 has increased by 608.
So if they keep giving out about 3000 ITAS biweekly which is 78000 ITAs in a year, the CRS will never come down below 410 (forget 410, now I think CRS won't even have to come below 440).
Hence instead of living in the wonderland of dream world, working on the pathways to improve CRS might help.
Good luck!

I couldn't agree more with you man. For everyone's sake I hope your analysis was on the pessimistic side, but we all have to be prepared for this. 2018 might not be a record breaking year.

 

[Kaveh86]

Let's do some math and check that...
On Jan 18 no. of candidates in the pool with CRS above 410: 16200
On Jan 24, candidates got picked for ITA with CRS 444: 2750
On Feb 1 no. of candidates in the pool with CRS above 410: 16808

Looking at above data, even after giving out 2750 ITAs the number of candidates with CRS above 410 has increased by 608.
So if they keep giving out about 3000 ITAS biweekly which is 78000 ITAs in a year, the CRS will never come down below 410 (forget 410, now I think CRS won't even have to come below 440).
Hence instead of living in the wonderland of dream world, working on the pathways to improve CRS might help.
Good luck!

I agree and I think if IRCC had not increased the number of ITAs in the last draw, the CRS would have stayed at 444. Today, I was analysing the pool stats for the past several months and one thing is clear. More and more people are entering the pool every week (regardless of the score range) which means the competition for receiving ITA is becoming more intense. I hope IRCC keep increasing the number of ITAs issued and also conduct some back to back draws in the coming months.

 

[Teja2000]

Hello,

I have Indian PCC dated of 08/12/2017. My current CRS is 993 (after oinp) and expecting to get ITA on 21st Feb. Should I apply with that PCC or get a new one? I read somewhere that Indian PCC is valid for 6 months if you stay in the same country. Need suggestions

As per my understanding, PCC should not be older than 6 months, For example I got PCC for India in April 2017 and it is more than 6 months old so got again PCC in Feb 2018. Please do the same way to avoid delays and problems. Final decision is up to you.

 

[closingtime]

How can you get Temporary Work permit ?

Well, that is a good question.

1. You need an employer who is willing to hire you. This may involve meeting the employer and usually would require a specialised skill set. I would imagine an employer would reach out to you if they were interested and genuinely could not find Canadian employees to do the role.

2. The employer also needs to be willing to fill out the documentation and pay the employer compliance fee ( if they do not go the LMIA route ).

3. The employer's application to be able to issue you a job offer, needs to be approved, this is at the sole discretion of the Canadian government. If this stage fails, there will be no work permit.

4. You have to apply for your work permit, your application for the permit needs to be approved. ( this will be subject to the official believing among other things, that you will leave Canada at the end of the permit, In my situation am able to evidence that I can quite easily leave Canada at the end of such a permit for example, because I have a place to return to in the UK and job connections here and in all honesty, I would be coming to Canada to work, so if the job goes, I will happily go also ).

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/work-canada/permit/temporary/apply.html

If after a working for a year, the employer wants you to stay in Canada, you technically could make an Express Entry application under the Canadian Experience Class. You would need to have worked for your employer for a minimum of a year, 10-11 months will not cut it. The Employer I believe would also be exempt from LMIA, if they offer you a permanent job ( but I am not an expert here ). This is all a big IF.

It would in all likelihood be a closed work permit, so you can only work for one employer. Similar to the USA's H1b program, accept much shorter in length.

You will probably need to buy health insurance as well, as you will not be covered by the Provincial healthcare from what I understand.

This is by no means an easy route, there are no guarantees either. You will need to be able to leave Canada at the end of your permit. You must not mis-represent yourself, if you are just doing it as a means to get permanent residency, it would be unlikely to be approved. There is every chance my permit will not be approved also.

In my situation it would be great to get a PR through Express Entry, or OINP, but, if I have to go out to Canada work for a year and come back home. Then I will be happy with that, at least I got to live and work in Canada for a little while, besides, it might not even work out for me over there. ( assuming my permit gets approved ).

Hope this helped.

 

[h1b2pr]

Well, that is a good question.

1. You need an employer who is willing to hire you. This may involve meeting the employer and usually would require a specialised skill set. I would imagine an employer would reach out to you if they were interested and genuinely could not find Canadian employees to do the role.

2. The employer also needs to be willing to fill out the documentation and pay the employer compliance fee ( if they do not go the LMIA route ).

3. The employer's application to be able to issue you a job offer, needs to be approved, this is at the sole discretion of the Canadian government. If this stage fails, there will be no work permit.

4. You have to apply for your work permit, your application for the permit needs to be approved. ( this will be subject to the official believing among other things, that you will leave Canada at the end of the permit, In my situation am able to evidence that I can quite easily leave Canada at the end of such a permit for example, because I have a place to return to in the UK and job connections here and in all honesty, I would be coming to Canada to work, so if the job goes, I will happily go also ).

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/work-canada/permit/temporary/apply.html

If after a working for a year, the employer wants you to stay in Canada, you technically could make an Express Entry application under the Canadian Experience Class. You would need to have worked for your employer for a minimum of a year, 10-11 months will not cut it. The Employer I believe would also be exempt from LMIA, if they offer you a permanent job ( but I am not an expert here ). This is all a big IF.

It would in all likelihood be a closed work permit, so you can only work for one employer. Similar to the USA's H1b program, accept much shorter in length.

You will probably need to buy health insurance as well, as you will not be covered by the Provincial healthcare from what I understand.

This is by no means an easy route, there are no guarantees either. You will need to be able to leave Canada at the end of your permit. You must not mis-represent yourself, if you are just doing it as a means to get permanent residency, it would be unlikely to be approved. There is every chance my permit will not be approved also.

In my situation it would be great to get a PR through Express Entry, or OINP, but, if I have to go out to Canada work for a year and come back home. Then I will be happy with that, at least I got to live and work in Canada for a little while, besides, it might not even work out for me over there. ( assuming my permit gets approved ).

Hope this helped.

The reason I asked how can you get temp work permit is because you sounded initially like you are talking about working holiday visa or some kind. But you seem to be looking forward for LMIA approved work permit.
Not to disappoint you, but do you know whether your skill (NOC) is in high demand and impossible to find one in entire Canada with your skills ? otherwise there is no reason to pursue it. H1b is not in comparison here because, h1b is pretty easy to get (lottery is unfortunate thing happening). LMIA on the other hand sounds similar on paper like h1b but its highly impossible an employer will even consider unless the employer is sure the NOC is highly rare to find. At-least this is what I'm thinking it is.
I'm working in US on h1b past 10 years with about 15 yrs IT experience in 2174. Not a single recruiter or employer in Canada wants to respond to my applications.
But every hope is different! Good luck!

 

[closingtime]

The reason I asked how can you get temp work permit is because you sounded initially like you are talking about working holiday visa or some kind. But you seem to be looking forward for LMIA approved work permit.
Not to disappoint you, but do you know whether your skill (NOC) is in high demand and impossible to find one in entire Canada with your skills ? otherwise there is no reason to pursue it. H1b is not in comparison here because, h1b is pretty easy to get (lottery is unfortunate thing happening). LMIA on the other hand sounds similar on paper like h1b but its highly impossible an employer will even consider unless the employer is sure the NOC is highly rare to find. At-least this is what I'm thinking it is.
I'm working in US on h1b past 10 years with about 15 yrs IT experience in 2174. Not a single recruiter or employer in Canada wants to respond to my applications.
But every hope is different! Good luck!

You could very well be right, it could all not go through. Also this conversation is probably better for the Skilled Worker/Professional Immigration forum.

Back to the ray of hope. I would say, all things are possible, but yes, maximise score where you can.

 

[everydaydealer]

You could very well be right, it could all not go through. Also this conversation is probably better for the Skilled Worker/Professional Immigration forum.

Back to the ray of hope. I would say, all things are possible, but yes, maximise score where you can.

We are sitting at 440. We already scored full in ielts. we both are bachelor's. Except doing masters no other choice. Any other way to increase csr

 

[flyingpbandj]

So for police certificate, my partner is back in her home country right now. She will get it over there (let's say, it will say 15/02/18), and she will be back in Canada around March 20. As the PCC is less than 6 months old, it should still work right?

Thanks, and sorry for so many questions!

 

[Sandeep198511]

Let's do some math and check that...
On Jan 18 no. of candidates in the pool with CRS above 410: 16200
On Jan 24, candidates got picked for ITA with CRS 444: 2750
On Feb 1 no. of candidates in the pool with CRS above 410: 16808

Looking at above data, even after giving out 2750 ITAs the number of candidates with CRS above 410 has increased by 608.
So if they keep giving out about 3000 ITAS biweekly which is 78000 ITAs in a year, the CRS will never come down below 410 (forget 410, now I think CRS won't even have to come below 440).
Hence instead of living in the wonderland of dream world, working on the pathways to improve CRS might help.
Good luck!

I do not fully agree with your conclusion...yes more people are entering the pool and it may never go below 410 but IRCC is really unpredictable and what they do might change at any time so not sure ...but CRS not going below 440 is where I disagree totally..it will go below 440 and if 2017 trend is repeated it will go below 420...just an example if we have draw this Wednesday it will be below 440...but CRS going down will be very slow not like 2017 where every draw there was decrease by 6 to 8 points...however most important point from your post is to find pathways to improve your score...this I agree cause rather than waiting you are doing something for yourself and it is better than waiting for score to come down.... buddy THIS IS ROH...

 

[Sandeep198511]

We are sitting at 440. We already scored full in ielts. we both are bachelor's. Except doing masters no other choice. Any other way to increase csr

You should wait rather than spending money on improving saying this because of 440...you will get it for sure...if there is back to back draw this Wednesday you will get in...so pray for that and...best of luck....

 

[santhkum90]

So for police certificate, my partner is back in her home country right now. She will get it over there (let's say, it will say 15/02/18), and she will be back in Canada around March 20. As the PCC is less than 6 months old, it should still work right?

Thanks, and sorry for so many questions!

If the home country is not the country of residence, then the PCC should be obtained after the last date of departure from that country. Only for the current country of residence, you can get the PCC beforehand.

 

[Midnight Blessing]

I do not fully agree with your conclusion...yes more people are entering the pool and it may never go below 410 but IRCC is really unpredictable and what they do might change at any time so not sure ...but CRS not going below 440 is where I disagree totally..it will go below 440 and if 2017 trend is repeated it will go below 420...just an example if we have draw this Wednesday it will be below 440...but CRS going down will be very slow not like 2017 where every draw there was decrease by 6 to 8 points...however most important point from your post is to find pathways to improve your score...this I agree cause rather than waiting you are doing something for yourself and it is better than waiting for score to come down.... buddy THIS IS ROH...

Although there has been a shocking high number of people jumping into the pool that we have observed so far. Having said that if cic has to meet their annual quota they will have to increase the drawing size and hence crs will come down to at least near about 425 at minimum and this is absolute certain.

Also, it is almost not feasible for people sitting on 430's to increase any more score(without spouse)because they might have done their best already. But yes 420's and 410's can try.

According to my sane view, I think we will not see raining itas before mid April cause by then oinp should be able to fill the first part of their yearly quotas with high crs candidates.

 

[Sandeep198511]

Although there has been a shocking high number of people jumping into the pool that we have observed so far. Having said that if cic has to meet their annual quota they will have to increase the drawing size and hence crs will come down to at least near about 425 at minimum and this is absolute certain.

Also, it is almost not feasible for people sitting on 430's to increase any more score(without spouse)because they might have done their best already. But yes 420's and 410's can try.

According to my sane view, I think we will not see raining itas before mid April cause by then oinp should be able to fill the first part of their yearly quotas with high crs candidates.

well my view as well and I would say CRS will come to 420-425 atleast once...

 

[zagcollins]

Thanks! That's what I was leaning to. Should I still include it in the LOE, or is it expected that I don't include anything related to it if I mark it as non-ECA?

Thanks again.

you can include a line in the LoE if you wish to do so, although in your case it is moot considering you have a Canadian Master's degree.