Language sir. He has gone through a great loss recently (his citizenship application).
Oct applicants no AOR and reapply
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just got off the phone with my MP and here is an update -
Justin Trudeau has been apologizing a lot lately - to aboriginal groups, LGBTQ, etc. His next apology is going to be for October applicants whose applications have been lost by CIC.
Justin Trudeau has been apologizing a lot lately - to aboriginal groups, LGBTQ, etc. His next apology is going to be for October applicants whose applications have been lost by CIC.
Great argument from the "lost" camp. Completely logical. Here is my reply on your thought process -
Like you said, "lost" may mean its at the end of a pile which maybe overlooked or ignored (for a while). And because of this, there is a need for us to follow-up or escalate. Completely agree with your approach.
However, here is my take. Because there are people from Oct 13 dates that are receiving AORs daily as we speak, the time for action has not yet come. Once we stop getting AORs for around mid-October dates and the train moves to Nov or so, that maybe the appropriate time for us to intervene. Then, we will also have something to show them. Not now. Overall, I think people are worrying pre-maturely. If nothing else, then one solid argument for my case is - people are still receiving AORs daily, just read some of the posts. Your thoughts?
I have to say this once again (because sane arguments are so rare on this forum), I respect your side of arguments, I think they are logical (but politely disagree).
The guy who spoke with his MP stated a 8 weeks wait before Sydney consider something lost and look for it. So for now no one should be panicking until the bar of 8 weeks is reached, which leaves Sydney one more week to issue the October 13th AOR. After that, I think i'll follow that procedure because from everything on this thread, it seems like the least panicky/ irrational option, I don't want to send another file and go back to the end of the queue.
for a fact, CIC *is* definitely working on the mid-Oct files. How do I know that? Because people are receiving AORs. an organization who knows that action is already being taken will not do anything to escalate your case.
on a side note, where is this 8 week escalation process stated? if it is not stated, then it is not an official process. so just because one MP may have verbally said it does not mean everyone can escalate using that process. for all we know, CIC may have said it to dodge the MP or MP may have said it to dodge the OP. unless i am missing an official process.
Sorry, but the odds are very high that an application submitted through a courier is NOT lost, and that any re-application or new application will just complicate things more.
Even if the application was mailed in regular post, the odds are high it was received and is NOT lost.
Obviously, if an applicant has reason to believe they did not provide a proper address on the package, that is a different story.
If the application was properly addressed, it is very likely (almost certain) IRCC received it and has it, and has not lost it, unless IRCC has already put it in queue to be returned for failing to clear the completeness screening.
Applications are sometimes lost. BUT that is really rare for citizenship applications. And in the current situation, in which some wrinkles in how IRCC would handle the surge in applications as of October 11 was fully expected, the odds are very high that some applications have indeed encountered a wrinkle or three, and quite a few are probably in the mail being returned to the applicant for not passing the completeness check. These are NOT scenarios in which re-applying or making a new application will help. Quite the contrary.
Wait. Eight weeks at the very, very minimum. Longer is prudent. Wait to see if the application is returned or if for whatever reason it has been stalled in the completeness screening phase.
The following posts constituted a more than ample response to this entire thread:
This isn't a forum for bravado - this is about looking at facts and evidence and providing sound advice based on that.
If you are telling people to trust that you personally know that couriers lose documents despite there being a delivery signature, then you need to take a hard look at what kind of advice you are putting out.
What evidence do you have that applications are lost?
Where is your application in the spreadsheet?
"I personally believe, the person who is spreading this thread or news that CIC lost application is absolutely lying. I can guarantee he is not going to send another app or he might not be an applicant at all. He is probably a Citizen already or applied under 4/6 law or became citizen before 4/6 law and simply hate new law was implemented in October. "
This is completely unfair accusation. As you admit already, you wouldn't bet for a loonie, which means you are just lying. I am curious to see what guarantee do you have by saying I am not going to reapply.
I created this thread to help people with the same situation and share experience regarding reapply. If you don't like it, simply walk away and don't ruin this thread.
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For sure!
Those who are thinking of sending a second application should read this carefully: https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/publications-manuals/operational-bulletins-manuals/canadian-citizenship/admininistration/general-file-processing/procedure-multiple-applications.html