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It will tell you what date your file went to csis and what date it came out.
i wonder what will you/we get from these notes. If ircc blacks out every security detail under s 15, wont cbsa/csis do the same?
 
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The Access to Information Act gives Canadian citizens, permanent residents and any person or corporation present in Canada a right to access records of government institutions that are subject to the Act.If you are in Canada in atip chose privacy act and it is free, if you are in Canada and you are a representative and is asking info for someone who is outside of Canada chose access to information and it is $5.
Just to let you know to get information under ATIP, you need to be a Canadian Citizen or a Permanent Resident. The Privacy and and the relevant section of the Access to Information Act state:

Subject to this Act, every individual who is a Canadian citizen or a permanent resident within the meaning of subsection 2(1) of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act has a right to and shall, on request, be given access to

  • (a) any personal information about the individual contained in a personal information bank; and
  • (b) any other personal information about the individual under the control of a government institution with respect to which the individual is able to provide sufficiently specific information on the location of the information as to render it reasonably retrievable by the government institution.
If you not being a Citizen or a PR avail the Act, and if caught, you are liable for sanctions under the Act and reporting to CBSA.

This also constitutes Fraud as defined in Canadian Criminal Code.


Fraud
  • 380 (1) Every one who, by deceit, falsehood or other fraudulent means, whether or not it is a false pretence within the meaning of this Act, defrauds the public or any person, whether ascertained or not, of any property, money or valuable security or any service,
    • (a) is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to a term of imprisonment not exceeding fourteen years, where the subject-matter of the offence is a testamentary instrument or the value of the subject-matter of the offence exceeds five thousand dollars; or

    • (b) is guilty
      • (i) of an indictable offence and is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years, or

      • (ii) of an offence punishable on summary conviction,
      where the value of the subject-matter of the offence does not exceed five thousand dollars.
  • Marginal note:Minimum punishment
    (1.1) When a person is prosecuted on indictment and convicted of one or more offences referred to in subsection (1), the court that imposes the sentence shall impose a minimum punishment of imprisonment for a term of two years if the total value of the subject-matter of the offences exceeds one million dollars.
 
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Some people say you can, and they got it. I sent them a fax a few days ago and I provided my address abroad. I don't know if they will respond, but anyway, I tried, nothing to lose.
On their website, it doesn't specify that you have to be Canada to order it.
 

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Can we order CSIS report from outside Canada?
As per CSIS https://www.csis.gc.ca/scrtscrnng/index-en.php see -

How can I find out about the status of my immigration screening file?
For general information on immigration/ citizenship/ refugee/ visa-related issues, contact Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada (IRCC) at 1-888-242-2100 or website www.cic.gc.ca.

To enquire about the status of a government clearance or an immigration screening file, the following information is required*:

  • a full name,
  • date and place of birth,
  • the signature of the applicant, and
  • a return mailing address as replies are not sent by email or fax.
If you are enquiring on behalf of another person, the request must be accompanied by the Consent Form to Disclose Information to a Designated Individual.

Mail or fax the request to CSIS at the attention of:

Assistant Director, Operations
Canadian Security Intelligence Service
P.O. Box 9732, Station T
Ottawa, ON
K1G 4G4
Fax: 613-369-2954
 

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Some people say you can, and they got it. I sent them a fax a few days ago and I provided my address abroad. I don't know if they will respond, but anyway, I tried, nothing to lose.
On their website, it doesn't specify that you have to be Canada to order it.

If you have a Canadian address, it definitely helps. Mailing it to foreign countries is always slow and tricky.
 

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http://www.oag-bvg.gc.ca/internet/english/parl_oag_201111_02_e_35934.html

Read 2-51 to 2-55 for CSIS and CBSA timelines.

New report will come fall 2017.
This report is from 2011, way before EE was even implemented and the IRPA regulations came into place. Not sure what you are quoting and trying to make a point.

Instead you can see the IRCC published reports.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/publications/rpp/2016-2017/

A lot of the information you post in this thread is misleading and inaccurate.
 

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hello

legalfalcon. I am confused now. can we order csis or cbsa gcms
To clear all confusion he is what the law says:

1. GCMS - This is IRCC's system in which all data of each application is recorded and so are the notes written by immigration agents / officers. This is the most valuable way of tracking your application. GCMS notes are issued under Access to Information Act or the Privacy act. While the Access to Information Act can be availed by Canadian PR or a Canadian Citizen. It also extends to "individuals" in Canada, who come in the category of protected individuals, such as refugees.

The Privacy States states <http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/p-21/page-3.html#h-9>:

Right of Access
Marginal note:Right of access
  • Immigration and Refugee Protection Act has a right to and shall, on request, be given access to
    • (a) any personal information about the individual contained in a personal information bank; and
    • (b) any other personal information about the individual under the control of a government institution with respect to which the individual is able to provide sufficiently specific information on the location of the information as to render it reasonably retrievable by the government institution.


Similarly, the the language is seen in Access to information act <http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/a-1/page-1.html#h-2>:

Right to access to records
  • 4 (1) Subject to this Act, but notwithstanding any other Act of Parliament, every person who is

has a right to and shall, on request, be given access to any record under the control of a government institution.


If you are a Canadian PR or a Citizen you have the right to access the record for yourself. If you would like to access the record of others, you can do through a Canadian PR or a Citizen under the Access to Information Act.

2. CBSA - The Canadian Border Services Agency is responsible for looking into criminal inadmissibility for applicants. If an applicant has committed a crime in a foreign land, to evaluate whether it comes in the category of Canadian Law and whether will it hold that person inadmissible with be looked into by this agency. CBSA is asked to do risk assessment for prospective immigrants.

Sub-Program 1.1.3: Security Screening

Description

The Security Screening Program is responsible for the security screening of foreign nationals who have been referred to the CBSA by an IRCC visa officer abroad or in Canada, who are seeking to come to Canada as a permanent resident, temporary resident (e.g., visitor) or refugee, or are already in Canada and seeking to remain as a temporary or permanent resident.

The CBSA is responsible for ensuring that there are no security concerns related to the individual seeking entry to Canada (e.g., counter-terrorism, counter-espionage, war crimes, crimes against humanity and organized crime) and, based on a thorough screening exercise (including the review of information and intelligence from a wide variety of internal and external sources), makes a recommendation to IRCC on the admissibility of the individual. This program is also responsible for determining the admissibility of senior diplomats being posted to Ottawa to ensure that they meet the admissibility requirements of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act (IRPA).


For details see http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/agency-agence/reports-rapports/rpp/2016-2017/rpp-2016-2017-eng.pdf

3. CSIS - This is the Canadian security agency, and has a mandate to look into prospective immigrants before they are admitted into Canada. You can read in detail about it on this thread.

Ordering your reports and finding if your application has been processed

While CSIS has a straight forward procedure of writing to them, and for that you do not need Access to Information Act or Privacy Act. You can do that by following the procedure on the CSIS website:

How can I find out about the status of my immigration screening file?
For general information on immigration/ citizenship/ refugee/ visa-related issues, contact Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada (IRCC) at 1-888-242-2100 or website www.cic.gc.ca.

To enquire about the status of a government clearance or an immigration screening file, the following information is required*:
  • a full name,
  • date and place of birth,
  • the signature of the applicant, and
  • a return mailing address as replies are not sent by email or fax.
If you are enquiring on behalf of another person, the request must be accompanied by the Consent Form to Disclose Information to a Designated Individual.

Mail or fax the request to CSIS at the attention of:

Assistant Director, Operations
Canadian Security Intelligence Service
P.O. Box 9732, Station T
Ottawa, ON
K1G 4G4
Fax: 613-369-2954


For CBSA: You will need to apply for CBSA documents under the Access to Information Act or the Privacy Act.

Now the concern is, do you need to order these reports? GCMS should be ordered to keep a track of your file and is very helpful. As regards CBSA, that would be a must if you would like to know your record of entry and exit, this is important when you file for citizenship.

If you are a Citizen or a PR, you can order them by the above means.

If you are not a PR or a Citizen you and order your GCMS and CBSA reports at https://www.getgcms.com

For GCMS, you can order it directly. For CBSA, fill the contact form and let them know what information you are looking for and the same will be file on your behalf.






 
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To clear all confusion he is what the law says:

1. GCMS - This is IRCC's system in which all data of each application is recorded and so are the notes written by immigration agents / officers. This is the most valuable way of tracking your application. GCMS notes are issued under Access to Information Act or the Privacy act. While the Access to Information Act can be availed by Canadian PR or a Canadian Citizen. It also extends to "individuals" in Canada, who come in the category of protected individuals, such as refugees.

The Privacy States states <http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/p-21/page-3.html#h-9>:

Right of Access
Marginal note:Right of access
  • Immigration and Refugee Protection Act has a right to and shall, on request, be given access to
    • (a) any personal information about the individual contained in a personal information bank; and
    • (b) any other personal information about the individual under the control of a government institution with respect to which the individual is able to provide sufficiently specific information on the location of the information as to render it reasonably retrievable by the government institution.


Similarly, the the language is seen in Access to information act <http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/a-1/page-1.html#h-2>:

Right to access to records

  • 4 (1) Subject to this Act, but notwithstanding any other Act of Parliament, every person who is
has a right to and shall, on request, be given access to any record under the control of a government institution.


If you are a Canadian PR or a Citizen you have the right to access the record for yourself. If you would like to access the record of others, you can do through a Canadian PR or a Citizen under the Access to Information Act.

2. CBSA - The Canadian Border Services Agency is responsible for looking into criminal inadmissibility for applicants. If an applicant has committed a crime in a foreign land, to evaluate whether it comes in the category of Canadian Law and whether will it hold that person inadmissible with be looked into by this agency. CBSA is asked to do risk assessment for prospective immigrants.

Sub-Program 1.1.3: Security Screening
Description

The Security Screening Program is responsible for the security screening of foreign nationals who have been referred to the CBSA by an IRCC visa officer abroad or in Canada, who are seeking to come to Canada as a permanent resident, temporary resident (e.g., visitor) or refugee, or are already in Canada and seeking to remain as a temporary or permanent resident.

The CBSA is responsible for ensuring that there are no security concerns related to the individual seeking entry to Canada (e.g., counter-terrorism, counter-espionage, war crimes, crimes against humanity and organized crime) and, based on a thorough screening exercise (including the review of information and intelligence from a wide variety of internal and external sources), makes a recommendation to IRCC on the admissibility of the individual. This program is also responsible for determining the admissibility of senior diplomats being posted to Ottawa to ensure that they meet the admissibility requirements of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act (IRPA).
For details see http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/agency-agence/reports-rapports/rpp/2016-2017/rpp-2016-2017-eng.pdf

3. CSIS - This is the Canadian security agency, and has a mandate to look into prospective immigrants before they are admitted into Canada. You can read in detail about it on this thread.

Ordering your reports and finding if your application has been processed

While CSIS has a straight forward procedure of writing to them, and for that you do not need Access to Information Act or Privacy Act. You can do that by following the procedure on the CSIS website:

How can I find out about the status of my immigration screening file?
For general information on immigration/ citizenship/ refugee/ visa-related issues, contact Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada (IRCC) at 1-888-242-2100 or website www.cic.gc.ca.

To enquire about the status of a government clearance or an immigration screening file, the following information is required*:

  • a full name,
  • date and place of birth,
  • the signature of the applicant, and
  • a return mailing address as replies are not sent by email or fax.
If you are enquiring on behalf of another person, the request must be accompanied by the Consent Form to Disclose Information to a Designated Individual.

Mail or fax the request to CSIS at the attention of:

Assistant Director, Operations
Canadian Security Intelligence Service
P.O. Box 9732, Station T
Ottawa, ON
K1G 4G4
Fax: 613-369-2954


For CBSA: You will need to apply for CBSA documents under the Access to Information Act or the Privacy Act.

Now the concern is, do you need to order these reports? GCMS should be ordered to keep a track of your file and is very helpful. As regards CBSA, that would be a must if you would like to know your record of entry and exit, this is important when you file for citizenship.

If you are a Citizen or a PR, you can order them by the above means.

If you are not a PR or a Citizen you and order your GCMS and CBSA reports at https://www.getgcms.com

For GCMS, you can order it directly. For CBSA, fill the contact form and let them know what information you are looking for and the same will be file on your behalf.





Please tell me which post i put was misleading?!!! The atip website crealy says you can order if u are a pr, citizen or present in Canada.
https://atip-aiprp.apps.gc.ca/atip/welcome.do

If you are in Canada and you are someone's representative you can request under access to information.

I do not belong to getgcms which is a private company charging people who do not have enough info.

If it is against the law to order gcnote when u live in Canada without being pr please provide an atip reference.
 

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For csis u dont have to order under atip and you can mail/fax the consent form and cover letter to csis and it is free but if you dont get is there is no way to follow up. It is better to order it under atip and attach both consent forms. If u order if for an individual who is outside of canada u have to select access to information and pay $5