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shaheerjaved

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Pretty simple actually

1. Click on this link: https://www.canada.ca/en/treasury-board-secretariat/services/access-information-privacy/access-information/request-information.html

2. Scroll down to where it says "Submit a request online", click on it.

3. Click "Next", click on check mark and then click "Continue"

4. From drop down menu select the agency you want to request info from CBSA or CSIS

5. Fill in the rest of your info, pay $5 and hit submit
ok. that's the same process we use for ordering gcms, right?
 
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ok. that's the same process we use for ordering gcms, right?
yes exactly instead of IRCC use CBSA and CSIS as department. Also there is an extra consent form you can get from the CSIS and CBSA website itself.
 
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I'm in SS also and on latest GCMS notes eligibility changed from Passed to "Review Required".

This seems to be a new pattern
I have seen an applicant his eligibility shows review required but he is already in security screening as well. His eligibility was never passed and still his file went to SS!!!! Was yours passed before? There is a due date for eligibility in gcnote which is one year from passed date. What was your eligibility due date under ELIGIBILITY ASSESSMENT?
 

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can any senior member tell me why someone can get PPR at the same day of IP2? Can any one illustrate how CIC work on security?
not every applicant goes for an intensive security screening. Normal security can be passed within a day but intensive one goes to CSIS and CBSA.
 

shaheerjaved

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I'm trying right now. I also see you can request info from CSIS the main service doing the security screening. Will put in both requests today, let's see what pans out.
i wonder what will you/we get from these notes. If ircc blacks out every security detail under s 15, wont cbsa/csis do the same?
 

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Hello Legal:

After reading your post, I feel like I am clear now about the process of Security Check.

But how can you explain many CEC get IP2 and PPR in the same day or the next day?

Does that mean CSIS is not involved some time?

Please advise
Each application is different. For CEC and PNP, since their eligibility is based on Canadian documents, the BGC starts early, not for all though. Also factors like foreign visits and other details do play a role. This is why you see a quick turn around.
 

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You only need a consent form if someone else is requesting your info for you, or you are requesting info for someone else. If you are doing for yourself then you don't need consent form.
Just to let you know to get information under ATIP, you need to be a Canadian Citizen or a Permanent Resident. The Privacy and and the relevant section of the Access to Information Act state:

Subject to this Act, every individual who is a Canadian citizen or a permanent resident within the meaning of subsection 2(1) of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act has a right to and shall, on request, be given access to

  • (a) any personal information about the individual contained in a personal information bank; and
  • (b) any other personal information about the individual under the control of a government institution with respect to which the individual is able to provide sufficiently specific information on the location of the information as to render it reasonably retrievable by the government institution.
If you not being a Citizen or a PR avail the Act, and if caught, you are liable for sanctions under the Act and reporting to CBSA.

This also constitutes Fraud as defined in Canadian Criminal Code.


Fraud
  • 380 (1) Every one who, by deceit, falsehood or other fraudulent means, whether or not it is a false pretence within the meaning of this Act, defrauds the public or any person, whether ascertained or not, of any property, money or valuable security or any service,
    • (a) is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to a term of imprisonment not exceeding fourteen years, where the subject-matter of the offence is a testamentary instrument or the value of the subject-matter of the offence exceeds five thousand dollars; or

    • (b) is guilty
      • (i) of an indictable offence and is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years, or

      • (ii) of an offence punishable on summary conviction,
      where the value of the subject-matter of the offence does not exceed five thousand dollars.
  • Marginal note:Minimum punishment
    (1.1) When a person is prosecuted on indictment and convicted of one or more offences referred to in subsection (1), the court that imposes the sentence shall impose a minimum punishment of imprisonment for a term of two years if the total value of the subject-matter of the offences exceeds one million dollars.
 
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All members who are floating the information of ordering notes or accessing info please be aware of the following:


To get information under ATIP, you need to be a Canadian Citizen or a Permanent Resident. The Privacy and and the relevant section of the Access to Information Act state:

Subject to this Act, every individual who is a Canadian citizen or a permanent resident within the meaning of subsection 2(1) of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act has a right to and shall, on request, be given access to

  • (a) any personal information about the individual contained in a personal information bank; and

  • (b) any other personal information about the individual under the control of a government institution with respect to which the individual is able to provide sufficiently specific information on the location of the information as to render it reasonably retrievable by the government institution.
If you not being a Citizen or a PR avail the Act, and if caught, you are liable for sanctions under the Act and reporting to CBSA.


Further, not all filed go to CBSA. CBSA has the sole authority to make decisions on criminal inadmissibility. If you have a Canadian RCMP, or an issue where your file is flagged due to something showing up during a CSIS, or a FOSS/GCMS check will your application go to CBSA for a determination.
 

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Hi...Legalfalcon....

As you know few days ago I got the email from them that mentioned about additional verification........

So could you tell me approximately howmany days it usually take for this kind of application ???

6 months already finished............
 

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Hi Experts of Background Checking Topics,

I was wondering the approximate time span during which the VO does the verification for the Job of the applicant by wither calling his employer or personally visiting his work place for which the applicant has claimed points for.

So do anyone has any experience regarding that? This is important cause I used to work in a copy 4 years back for which I am going to claim points, however, that I left that company 3 years back and there have been some major changes into the organogram of the company so If I know the time, I will be able to knock the present HR and Managers about the possible enquiry of the VO's. Thanks
 

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Hi...Legalfalcon....

As you know few days ago I got the email from them that mentioned about additional verification........

So could you tell me approximately howmany days it usually take for this kind of application ???

6 months already finished............
Additional verification could mean anything from seeking additional documents from foreign governments to investigation from another investigation agency. Usually it may add 3-5 weeks, but if there are no concerns, not are than that.
 

legalfalcon

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Hi Experts of Background Checking Topics,

I was wondering the approximate time span during which the VO does the verification for the Job of the applicant by wither calling his employer or personally visiting his work place for which the applicant has claimed points for.

So do anyone has any experience regarding that? This is important cause I used to work in a copy 4 years back for which I am going to claim points, however, that I left that company 3 years back and there have been some major changes into the organogram of the company so If I know the time, I will be able to knock the present HR and Managers about the possible enquiry of the VO's. Thanks
The employment verifications happen during the eligibility stage and not security. To read on the different stages an application goes through see:

https://www.getgcms.com/blog/express-entry-application-processed/