I received my notes

[msb]

hi
My notes are in, 70 pages in total. Severals are duplicates which i do not understand why!

I am a december 2016 applicant out of the Mexico VO for outland DR.

The eligibility says not started (criminal and security as well)

How can this not be started yet, is that normal??

Anything else i should be looking for in those notes?

Please dont send me the link to the notes thread, the post is too long to find anything

Thanks

 

[spousalsponsee]

You're only 6-7 months in.

It's totally normal for those checks to not be started yet. It's unlikely there's anything of use to you in your notes.

 

[msb]

You're only 6-7 months in.

It's totally normal for those checks to not be started yet. It's unlikely there's anything of use to you in your notes.

Bizarre because many others from same VO and same dates as me are done their applications even.......

 

[spousalsponsee]

Bizarre because many others from same VO and same dates as me are done their applications even.......

If you applied under the old system, they were processing 80% of applicants within 18 months (http://www.cic.gc.ca/EnGLIsh/information/times/index.asp). New system, the global 12 month target applies. Some people might be quick, but you're currently well, well, well within normal.

 

[msb]

If you applied under the old system, they were processing 80% of applicants within 18 months (http://www.cic.gc.ca/EnGLIsh/information/times/index.asp). New system, the global 12 month target applies. Some people might be quick, but you're currently well, well, well within normal.

Actually no i am within the new timeline, my application is effective december 7th, I verified that with CIC already and you can also find the info on their website
All applications received from Dec 7 onwards is 12 months.....
Why most other applications in Dec from mexico VO processed faster and got their PR already. Makes no sense.

 

[spousalsponsee]

.... so, as I said, "New system, the global 12 month target applies"

Some applications have always moved faster than others. You're so far within standard processing times at only 6 months that ordering your notes now was never likely to get you useful information. Their only point is to identify blockages/problems, and this quickly, there's no reason to assume any exist. As evidenced by the notes not having any problems in them.

 

[msb]

.... so, as I said, "New system, the global 12 month target applies"

Some applications have always moved faster than others. You're so far within standard processing times at only 6 months that ordering your notes now was never likely to get you useful information. Their only point is to identify blockages/problems, and this quickly, there's no reason to assume any exist. As evidenced by the notes not having any problems in them.

How do i know if there are problems, how is that identified in these notes
My reason for this thread is to find the way to know how to read the notes
There are 70 pages..... its quite long

 

[majesty]

How do i know if there are problems, how is that identified in these notes
My reason for this thread is to find the way to know how to read the notes
There are 70 pages..... its quite long

It's hard to believe that there can be 70 pages when they haven't even started your eligibility, security and criminality checks.

 

[spousalsponsee]

How do i know if there are problems, how is that identified in these notes
My reason for this thread is to find the way to know how to read the notes
There are 70 pages..... its quite long

... Errr, ok, you said they were 70 pages and some duplicates in the opening post, and that background screening hadn't started, which implied you'd read them & didn't have any issues to ask about.

If you don't want to either read your notes, or be linked to the big thread where people discuss how to read their notes, then..... there's not a whole lot you can do, to be honest.

It's very unlikely this early that there's anything bad in them - you ordered them so quickly into the process - and if they haven't even started background check, then the only things that could be in there are (1) medical (does your eCAS/myCIC say that's passed? If so, no problem there), (2) genuineness of relationship (look for letters "bf" which stand for "bona fide", or "good faith").

 

[Sneakydriver]

hi
My notes are in, 70 pages in total. Severals are duplicates which i do not understand why!

I am a december 2016 applicant out of the Mexico VO for outland DR.

The eligibility says not started (criminal and security as well)

How can this not be started yet, is that normal??

Anything else i should be looking for in those notes?

Please dont send me the link to the notes thread, the post is too long to find anything

Thanks

I got my notes as well and I'm in the same boat. Nothing has been started. I applied 1 month after you tho. But don't think this is normal. Some people who got similar timelines to you landed already. What I think is going on it's that even in the same VO, some countries might be slower than others. I think Argentinians, Chileans, Costa Rican's even tho they are in Latin America, they are of a different tier. I don't know. Im just trying to make sense of this. But it's not normal and you should contact your MP.

 

[Aloaleja]

I got my notes 3 months after they got my application started at Mexico VO, I got 45 pages, at first i did not understand why so many pages and some of them appear similar to me, but then going through them again carefully i started to understand them better, not to the full extent, I got some answers in the Mexico forum about dates and meanings, for me they give me relief as I cannot link my application to a CIC account, so far medicals are passed and they started criminality. i was hoping to find out about the interview, and it was not specific if we need one. I am starting to assume that the chances are 80% my husband will be going to attend the interview... for some people requesting the notes within the first 3-4 months is too early, for others is fine. I read in the notes tread that 3-4 months would be a good time especially because you get to see what the officer thinks of your relationship.

I am January applicant. Is shocking to hear that they haven't started any security or criminality for you. Did you send your PCC upfront?

 

[Sneakydriver]

You're only 6-7 months in.

It's totally normal for those checks to not be started yet. It's unlikely there's anything of use to you in your notes.

This is not a good response. She got her AOR2 January 20th. IMO she should at least be in queue for an interview or her eligibility passed. She is almost 7 months into the process and the average for Mexico VO is actually 7 months and a half if you look at the spreadsheet(from app submitted to PPR). What you don't realize is that if they have to attend an interview at this point, their application will surpass the 1 year mark... She should contact her MP...

 

[spousalsponsee]

This is not a good response. She got her AOR2 January 20th. IMO she should at least be in queue for an interview or her eligibility passed. She is almost 7 months into the process and the average for Mexico VO is actually 7 months and a half if you look at the spreadsheet(from app submitted to PPR). What you don't realize is that if they have to attend an interview at this point, their application will surpass the 1 year mark... She should contact her MP...

Your understanding of how the system works appears fundamentally flawed, leading to your bad advice. The historic processing time for DR applicants through Mexico VO was 18 months (see pre-Dec 2016 timeline). The new target processing time is 12 months. Although these processing times are for 80% of cases, not an average, that means that 20% of cases will take longer than this, and 80% of cases can expect to be done in this time.

IRCC are under no obligation to have started anything at this point, and although I understand why you want things to be moving faster, you cannot expect (or demand) this.

Ordering notes this early is unlikely to reveal anything of use, because it's entirely plausible that simply nothing is happening, rather than something bad happening. The things to look for are medical, which is pass/fail, security & criminal background, which are said to be unstarted rather than having problems, and whether the relationship has been deemed bona fide - as I advised to look for.

Harassing an MP this early is extremely ill-advised, as the only thing it will do is irritate and overwork an office which could be helpful down the line if there is an actual problem - which can be determined either when IRCC say there is one, or in 6 months time.

 

[kcward7]

Your understanding of how the system works appears fundamentally flawed, leading to your bad advice. The historic processing time for DR applicants through Mexico VO was 18 months (see pre-Dec 2016 timeline). The new target processing time is 12 months. Although these processing times are for 80% of cases, not an average, that means that 20% of cases will take longer than this, and 80% of cases can expect to be done in this time.

IRCC are under no obligation to have started anything at this point, and although I understand why you want things to be moving faster, you cannot expect (or demand) this.

Ordering notes this early is unlikely to reveal anything of use, because it's entirely plausible that simply nothing is happening, rather than something bad happening. The things to look for are medical, which is pass/fail, security & criminal background, which are said to be unstarted rather than having problems, and whether the relationship has been deemed bona fide - as I advised to look for.

Harassing an MP this early is extremely ill-advised, as the only thing it will do is irritate and overwork an office which could be helpful down the line if there is an actual problem - which can be determined either when IRCC say there is one, or in 6 months time.

As much as people don't like hearing it, I agree with this response 100%. It's not up to the applicant to say "they should have started XYZ by now" especially when the application is still within processing time. Contacting a MP should be reserved for extreme cases, this should not become the norm of people who are still within regular timeframe. Further, just because a VO averages a certain time for processing, it's just that - an average, and does not mean it will apply to everyone or not be subject to change or fluctuate. Just my two cents.

 

[Sneakydriver]

Your understanding of how the system works appears fundamentally flawed, leading to your bad advice. The historic processing time for DR applicants through Mexico VO was 18 months (see pre-Dec 2016 timeline). The new target processing time is 12 months. Although these processing times are for 80% of cases, not an average, that means that 20% of cases will take longer than this, and 80% of cases can expect to be done in this time.

IRCC are under no obligation to have started anything at this point, and although I understand why you want things to be moving faster, you cannot expect (or demand) this.

Ordering notes this early is unlikely to reveal anything of use, because it's entirely plausible that simply nothing is happening, rather than something bad happening. The things to look for are medical, which is pass/fail, security & criminal background, which are said to be unstarted rather than having problems, and whether the relationship has been deemed bona fide - as I advised to look for.

Harassing an MP this early is extremely ill-advised, as the only thing it will do is irritate and overwork an office which could be helpful down the line if there is an actual problem - which can be determined either when IRCC say there is one, or in 6 months time.

Please don't refer contacting her MP as harrasing. It is true that IRCC is not obligated to do anything but looking at the fact other people with her timelines already landed in Canada and she is a Dec 07 applicant then I believe there is a reason to contact her MP soon if indeed her case has not been started. She is not harrasing her MP, just contacting him/her and letting her know about her concerns. Why does contacting her MP has to be seen as "harrasing" that's a bit extreme. Not saying she should do it as soon as possible but she should be looking to do this next month or so when her application reaches the average of MVO. Forget about 18 months, that's the old system. They won't make every applicant from the DR wait 18 months. That would be insane. There has been some people reporting that after contacting their MP things started to move. So yes, I would contact my MP soon if I was in her situation. It won't hurt her application, if anything, she will get some real answers and get some peace of mind. She is in her rights to contact her MP... anyone is.