Advice please- Canadian/ American cohabitating without marriage?

[spousalsponsee]

Why don't you try purchasing some property in Canada. Anything affordable like a cabin on a farm. You may eventually get a temporary residency for this and will be able to travel rather easily.

This would do nothing to improve a situation like in the (old) post above.

Owning property in Canada does not generate a reason to gain residency, and it can act as proof of additional ties to Canada, which could then be used to refuse temporary status, as the person has stronger links to Canada than they do somewhere else.

Also, while migration used to be much easier, it isn't 'bigoted' to say that Americans need to file a few pieces of paperwork before they're allowed to live in Canada.

 

[LoneEarthling]

This would do nothing to improve a situation like in the (old) post above.

Owning property in Canada does not generate a reason to gain residency, and it can act as proof of additional ties to Canada, which could then be used to refuse temporary status, as the person has stronger links to Canada than they do somewhere else.

Also, while migration used to be much easier, it isn't 'bigoted' to say that Americans need to file a few pieces of paperwork before they're allowed to live in Canada.

Hmmmm. An uncle of mine did this about 9-10 years ago. He even died there. He never was interested in naturalization and as far as I know he died a non-Canadian. He simply bought a small farm sort of lot not exactly in a city but nearby. May be the policy used to be different back then or may be also invested in something that I don't know about and made it possible for him to say. His original source of income were some mutual funds in the UAE and Turkey.
Besides, makes me wonder why would someone buy property and not live there. I mean, there should be some way. Otherwise, it's like I have a small cabin in the woods of Manitoba but I am allowed any ties . There must be some way perhaps a TR.
Several people study in Canada this way. It's convenient.

And secondly please don't think that I am a spoiled American who thinks we are beyond law, I am not. I am sorry if you were offended. I just meant that it's narrow-minded to limit human potentials and possibilities through man-made borders .
Sort of seems silly, at least, if you think about it. Scientists discovered fluid principles, Engineers invented planes, Business persons invested, Managers managed, Laborers built it, Pilots learnt how to operate, Meteorologist predicted the weather favorable and a passenger paid for the ticket. All of a sudden a bureaucrat pops out of nowhere with an order from the Queen to demand some tax and a visa; and everyone is like whaaaaaat! Who are you to ...... ? What did you ... ? What gives you ....... ? And then he/she gets arrested for questioning the Queen/President/Law and you know the drill.
Anyways, who seems to care, so never mind .

 

[spousalsponsee]

Hmmmm. An uncle of mine did this about 9-10 years ago. He even died there. He never was interested in naturalization and as far as I know he died a non-Canadian. He simply bought a small farm sort of lot not exactly in a city but nearby. May be the policy used to be different back then or may be also invested in something that I don't know about and made it possible for him to say. His original source of income were some mutual funds in the UAE and Turkey.
Besides, makes me wonder why would someone buy property and not live there. I mean, there should be some way. Otherwise, it's like I have a small cabin in the woods of Manitoba but I am allowed any ties . There must be some way perhaps a TR.
Several people study in Canada this way. It's convenient.

And secondly please don't think that I am a spoiled American who thinks we are beyond law, I am not. I am sorry if you were offended. I just meant that it's narrow-minded to limit human potentials and possibilities through man-made borders .
Sort of seems silly, at least, if you think about it. Scientists discovered fluid principles, Engineers invented planes, Business persons invested, Managers managed, Laborers built it, Pilots learnt how to operate, Meteorologist predicted the weather favorable and a passenger paid for the ticket. All of a sudden a bureaucrat pops out of nowhere with an order from the Queen to demand some tax and a visa; and everyone is like whaaaaaat! Who are you to ...... ? What did you ... ? What gives you ....... ? And then he/she gets arrested for questioning the Queen/President/Law and you know the drill.
Anyways, who seems to care, so never mind .

I wasn't offended; I was bemused. Canada and America are different countries, with different governments and citizenships. Paperwork is normally required to move between jurisdictions. The discovery of fluid dynamics has nothing to do with that. Making the world a free movement zone may seem a desirable outcome, but it won't be possible for a very, very long time.

As for your uncle - you don't seem to know his specifics, and I certainly don't. He may have been living illegally in Canada, he may have been staying as an extended visitor, he may have had an economic or family route to residency. Canada did used to have investment citizenship programmes; the only one still extant is Quebec's, which requires, IIRC, over $1m invested for several years.

There's no reason for ownership of property to be a route to residency. Plenty of Canadians own properties in Florida or Arizona where they winter. It doesn't mean they're allowed to live there long-term; they visit their property for months at a time. The same for your hypothetical cabin in Manitoba.

 

[LoneEarthling]

I wasn't offended; I was bemused. Canada and America are different countries, with different governments and citizenships. Paperwork is normally required to move between jurisdictions. The discovery of fluid dynamics has nothing to do with that. Making the world a free movement zone may seem a desirable outcome, but it won't be possible for a very, very long time.

As for your uncle - you don't seem to know his specifics, and I certainly don't. He may have been living illegally in Canada, he may have been staying as an extended visitor, he may have had an economic or family route to residency. Canada did used to have investment citizenship programmes; the only one still extant is Quebec's, which requires, IIRC, over $1m invested for several years.

There's no reason for ownership of property to be a route to residency. Plenty of Canadians own properties in Florida or Arizona where they winter. It doesn't mean they're allowed to live there long-term; they visit their property for months at a time. The same for your hypothetical cabin in Manitoba.

Yeah, it will take several years for humans to evolve beyond borders. For now, mankind seems to be sometimes moving in the opposite or resisting at the least.

It seems, he certainly must have been living illegally then. I know the following for sure:

1. He never invested anything in Canada. Except buying a property for residence. Unless, of course he was growing berries at the farm and selling them. That too would have been illegal.
2. He never naturalized.

What I don't know is the sort of permit he had. Being 60+, proper bank statements, entering and leaving no more than twice a year; may be he was shown some leniency or shortsightedness. And they (he and wife) lived for about 6 years like this. Wife died a year earlier than him.
That's the reason why I don't know enough about this, I was young back then and he only used to leave twice a year. Once to visit the home country (& us) and second to visit for a vacation somewhere warmer during Dec-Feb.