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legalfalcon

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Hi Legalfalcon,
I got my notes yesterday through getgcms - thank you. I have few questions if you can help me please:
On the second page, the status is:
Eligibility: Not Started
Security: Not Started
HIRV:
Criminality: Passed
Org Crime:
Medical: Passed

On the Associations section, the page is blank with s.16(1)(c) at the top right in which I read your post regarding s16 on this forum.

On the notes sections the last comment from agent states:
Case analyst application: E000XXXX Regulation: PNP: FSW, I have verified this application under section 11.2 of immigration and refugee protection act and make following determination: RECOMMENDATION:***Appear to meet requirements***Ready to finalize
----------------------------------------------------------------Civil Status: PA (NAME), Married Passport expiry (DATE) Spouse/CL (NAME)
----------------------------------------------------------------INTEGRATED SEARCH (FOSS/GCMS): PA (NAME) No trace in GCMS/FOSS other than present application SPOUSE/CL (NAME) no trace in GCMS/FOSS other than present application---------------------WORK EXPERIENCE: Qualifying period 06DEC2006 to 05DEC2016
Submitted letters of reference which are assessed as follows: EDOCS NUMBER XXXX the duties listed in the letter of reference appear to be consistent with the actions in the lead statement under NOC code selected. The letter of reference appear to be consistent with a substantial number of the main duties under NOC selected. The letter of reference appear to demonstrate that the PA met the minimum requirements of 12 months of work experience. PA meets Education requirements.

My questions:
  1. How the assessment happened under section 11.2 with the above recommendation while the status still shows Not Started?
The A11.2 eligibility happens in 2 stages. First a case analyst will review and make a recommendation and then the recommendation will be reviewed by an agent, which will be final. In your case the case analysts has made a recommendation, "Appear to meet requirements," but not updated the status. Nothing to be concerned about, this happens and is normal.
  1. How security shows Not Started while under section s16(1)(c) the information has been not disclosed? does this mean security did start but not updated on the status?
s16(1)(c) is used for numerous issues. While the security is conducted by CSIS, IRCC on its end too takes care of criminality and FOSS and other checks. This could also relate to any information IRCC may have asked which is not subject to disclosure. So technically, security may not have started, but you may still have this section.
  1. The above notes were done at the CIO. Does CIO handle A11.2 or visa office?
If your VO is in your home country, then in most cases the initial eligibility, i.e. case analyst review happens at the CIO, and the final agent review at the VO
  1. I think the above is the analyst recommendation, still there will be someone to verify and approve, right?
See above
  1. How can I make sure from the notes if the application has been transfered to visa office?
See the middle pages, there will be movement, where it will show where your application is and if it has been transferred.


Regards
 

Ferasz

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Thanks for your help.
 

ashishsharma2985

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20-01-2016
Doc's Request.
28-11-2016
Nomination.....
28-12-2016
AOR Received.
04-01-2017
Dear Legalfalcon,

I just received my notes through getgcms. Request your advice on the below. I shall be very thankful

The status is:
Eligibility: Not Started
Security: Blank
HIRV:
Criminality: Passed
Org Crime:
Medical: Passed

On the notes sections the last comment from agent states:
Case analyst application: E000XXXX Regulation: PNP: FSW, I have verified this application under section 11.2 of immigration and refugee protection act and make following determination: RECOMMENDATION:***Appear to meet requirements***Ready to finalize
----------------------------------------------------------------Civil Status: PA (NAME), Married Passport expiry (DATE) Spouse/CL (NAME)
----------------------------------------------------------------INTEGRATED SEARCH (FOSS/GCMS): PA (NAME) No trace in GCMS/FOSS other than present application SPOUSE/CL (NAME) no trace in GCMS/FOSS other than present application---------------------WORK EXPERIENCE: Qualifying period 06JAN2008 to 16JAN2017
Submitted letters of reference which are assessed as follows: EDOCS NUMBER XXXX the duties listed in the letter of reference appear to be consistent with the actions in the lead statement under NOC code selected. The letter of reference appear to be consistent with a substantial number of the main duties under NOC selected. The letter of reference appear to demonstrate that the PA met the minimum requirements of 12 months of work experience. PA meets Education requirements.

After that my file is transferred to LVO

NOTES 18:
Updated Date: 2017/05/29 12:04:39
Updated By: XXXX
Restricted: No
Label: General
Office: New Delhi
Text: Review of Background/ Travel Info

  • I am worried about the above text
  • Under Security section I have s.15(1), should i be worried
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,049
9,917
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Dear Legalfalcon,

I just received my notes through getgcms. Request your advice on the below. I shall be very thankful

The status is:
Eligibility: Not Started
Security: Blank
HIRV:
Criminality: Passed
Org Crime:
Medical: Passed

On the notes sections the last comment from agent states:
Case analyst application: E000XXXX Regulation: PNP: FSW, I have verified this application under section 11.2 of immigration and refugee protection act and make following determination: RECOMMENDATION:***Appear to meet requirements***Ready to finalize
----------------------------------------------------------------Civil Status: PA (NAME), Married Passport expiry (DATE) Spouse/CL (NAME)
----------------------------------------------------------------INTEGRATED SEARCH (FOSS/GCMS): PA (NAME) No trace in GCMS/FOSS other than present application SPOUSE/CL (NAME) no trace in GCMS/FOSS other than present application---------------------WORK EXPERIENCE: Qualifying period 06JAN2008 to 16JAN2017
Submitted letters of reference which are assessed as follows: EDOCS NUMBER XXXX the duties listed in the letter of reference appear to be consistent with the actions in the lead statement under NOC code selected. The letter of reference appear to be consistent with a substantial number of the main duties under NOC selected. The letter of reference appear to demonstrate that the PA met the minimum requirements of 12 months of work experience. PA meets Education requirements.

After that my file is transferred to LVO

NOTES 18:
Updated Date: 2017/05/29 12:04:39
Updated By: XXXX
Restricted: No
Label: General
Office: New Delhi
Text: Review of Background/ Travel Info

  • I am worried about the above text
  • Under Security section I have s.15(1), should i be worried
Nothing to be concerned about. The case analyst has recommended - "Appear to meet requirements," now the agent at the LVO will review it and finalize the eligibility.

S.15(1) is normal, see the first page of this thread. As regards the Note 18, if you have a travel history, IRCC may want to review it to ensure or get date as to why you travelled, or if there are any gaps, ensure that all period are accounted for.

But in conclusion, nothing to worry about, your application is progressing well. If you would like, you can order another set of GCMS, the should show the eligibility to Passed / Met / Recommended passed.

Also, if the security is blank, and there is a s15 or s16 on the top of that page then the security is underway, which is a good sign as that would make your application process faster.
 

ashishsharma2985

Full Member
Sep 13, 2015
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2171
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
20-01-2016
Doc's Request.
28-11-2016
Nomination.....
28-12-2016
AOR Received.
04-01-2017
Dear Legalfalcon,

I just received my notes through getgcms. Request your advice on the below. I shall be very thankful

The status is:
Eligibility: Not Started
Security: Blank
HIRV:
Criminality: Passed
Org Crime:
Medical: Passed

On the notes sections the last comment from agent states:
Case analyst application: E000XXXX Regulation: PNP: FSW, I have verified this application under section 11.2 of immigration and refugee protection act and make following determination: RECOMMENDATION:***Appear to meet requirements***Ready to finalize
----------------------------------------------------------------Civil Status: PA (NAME), Married Passport expiry (DATE) Spouse/CL (NAME)
----------------------------------------------------------------INTEGRATED SEARCH (FOSS/GCMS): PA (NAME) No trace in GCMS/FOSS other than present application SPOUSE/CL (NAME) no trace in GCMS/FOSS other than present application---------------------WORK EXPERIENCE: Qualifying period 06JAN2008 to 16JAN2017
Submitted letters of reference which are assessed as follows: EDOCS NUMBER XXXX the duties listed in the letter of reference appear to be consistent with the actions in the lead statement under NOC code selected. The letter of reference appear to be consistent with a substantial number of the main duties under NOC selected. The letter of reference appear to demonstrate that the PA met the minimum requirements of 12 months of work experience. PA meets Education requirements.

After that my file is transferred to LVO

NOTES 18:
Updated Date: 2017/05/29 12:04:39
Updated By: XXXX
Restricted: No
Label: General
Office: New Delhi
Text: Review of Background/ Travel Info

I am worried about this
Nothing to be concerned about. The case analyst has recommended - "Appear to meet requirements," now the agent at the LVO will review it and finalize the eligibility.

S.15(1) is normal, see the first page of this thread. As regards the Note 18, if you have a travel history, IRCC may want to review it to ensure or get date as to why you travelled, or if there are any gaps, ensure that all period are accounted for.

But in conclusion, nothing to worry about, your application is progressing well. If you would like, you can order another set of GCMS, the should show the eligibility to Passed / Met / Recommended passed.

Also, if the security is blank, and there is a s15 or s16 on the top of that page then the security is underway, which is a good sign as that would make your application process faster.

Thank you so much Legalfalcon, really appreciate your help, will order another set of GCMS
 

Vivian_CND

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May 20, 2017
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PNP
Visa Office......
Don't know??!!
NOC Code......
1112
Doc's Request.
16-01-2017 Schedule A (IMM 5669). Doc sent 3h later
Nomination.....
15 Dec 2016
AOR Received.
27 Dec 2016
Dear Legalfalcon,

My GCMS received yesterday makes me anxious. I got 1 "failed candidate" and 1 "review required". However, on 2017/06/07 my BG changed to IP for the 2nd time. As many friends in the forum says, BG IP2 means PPR in the corner. I wonder if I am safe or not yet. If there had been a refusal, they should have stopped the process and informed me, right? It would be much appreciated if you could advise me.

The status as of 2017/05/18 is:
Eligibility: Review Required
Security: Not start
HIRV:
Criminality: Passed
Org Crime:
Medical: Passed

Group Name: PNP EE Review Required
Group # 1-B4ZR9ZD

1st problem: WORK EXPERIENCE:
Submitted letters of reference which are assessed as follows: EDOCS NUMBER XXXX the duties listed in the letter of reference appear to be consistent with the actions in the lead statement under NOC code selected. Review required by an officer for main duties. Main duties not sufficient. To officer for review. The letter of reference appear to demonstrate that the PA met the minimum requirements of 12 months of work experience.

2nd problem: Notes 19 mentionned
Schedule A received and reviewed edoc 12345678 ** Please note Statutory Question information on above Schedule A Please note FAILED CANDIDATE.
Could you explain what it really means?!! Am I already refused? I answer the Schedule A truthfully and completely, and submitted on 2017/01/17. I have only 1 little hope by seeing my account online continues to evolute (BG changed from NA > IP2..) but I am very anxious


Many thanks in advance for your clarification.
 

Heathcliff77

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May 2, 2016
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Doc's Request.
13-01-2017
AOR Received.
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Passport Req..
28-06-2017
Hello, please do the answers to statutory questions in e-APR appear in GCMS notes.
In my notes the answers themselves didn't show, however, the agent noted (Answers to the statutory questions refer to eDoc #######) because I explained my answers thoroughly in the letter of explanation.
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,049
9,917
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Dear Legalfalcon,

My GCMS received yesterday makes me anxious. I got 1 "failed candidate" and 1 "review required". However, on 2017/06/07 my BG changed to IP for the 2nd time. As many friends in the forum says, BG IP2 means PPR in the corner. I wonder if I am safe or not yet. If there had been a refusal, they should have stopped the process and informed me, right? It would be much appreciated if you could advise me.

The status as of 2017/05/18 is:
Eligibility: Review Required
Security: Not start
HIRV:
Criminality: Passed
Org Crime:
Medical: Passed

Group Name: PNP EE Review Required
Group # 1-B4ZR9ZD

1st problem: WORK EXPERIENCE:
Submitted letters of reference which are assessed as follows: EDOCS NUMBER XXXX the duties listed in the letter of reference appear to be consistent with the actions in the lead statement under NOC code selected. Review required by an officer for main duties. Main duties not sufficient. To officer for review. The letter of reference appear to demonstrate that the PA met the minimum requirements of 12 months of work experience.

2nd problem: Notes 19 mentionned
Schedule A received and reviewed edoc 12345678 ** Please note Statutory Question information on above Schedule A Please note FAILED CANDIDATE.
Could you explain what it really means?!! Am I already refused? I answer the Schedule A truthfully and completely, and submitted on 2017/01/17. I have only 1 little hope by seeing my account online continues to evolute (BG changed from NA > IP2..) but I am very anxious


Many thanks in advance for your clarification.

The eligibility is a 2 step process, first a review by case analyst and then the recommendation if reviewed by an agent / officer. Here the case analyst has asked the officer to review your job duties.

As regards IP1>NA>IP2, who so ever started this, is the biggest speculation myth. For most people this would entree, but this is not the norm. Since I am not sure what you answered in your statutory questions, I cannot comment on it and the pic you inserted is not available.

If you can provide more details, I would be happy to look into it. Just because the officer was asked to look review your case does not mean rejection. See this note, an applicant who was in a similar boat.


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legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,049
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Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Hello, please do the answers to statutory questions in e-APR appear in GCMS notes.
No, statutory questions do not show up in the GCMS notes. However, only if there is a concern with the questions, will they be mentioned or references in the notes.
 

Faky201

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Hello legalfalcon, in my previous trv application, i inadvertently ticked no instead of yes and got the visa. I plan to tick yes and give an explanation, would this raise any issues.
 

olak131

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Visa Office......
OTTAWA
App. Filed.......
10/2/2017
Doc's Request.
8/4/2017
AOR Received.
10/2/2017
No, statutory questions do not show up in the GCMS notes. However, only if there is a concern with the questions, will they be mentioned or references in the notes.
I think it shows up for some.
I saw mine in my GCMS notes. The case analyst just responded saying prior refusal, no adverse information.
 

Vivian_CND

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May 20, 2017
36
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Category........
PNP
Visa Office......
Don't know??!!
NOC Code......
1112
Doc's Request.
16-01-2017 Schedule A (IMM 5669). Doc sent 3h later
Nomination.....
15 Dec 2016
AOR Received.
27 Dec 2016
Dear Legalfalcon

My study permit and tourist visa used to be refused last year and 2 years ago. So I answered Yes in the statutory questions and gave explanation with the copy of my refusal letters.
Like Olak131, mine is
INTEGRATED SEARCH (FOSS/ GCMS): PA (Vivian) NO ADVERSE INFORMATION Additional Notes Previous TR applications refused.
Are we safe now? Does "Failed candidate" just mean I used to be a failed candidate in my visa in the past? Or does it mention my e-APR?
Plus, Notes 12-13 recited my explanation [Refused Admission Details]
Notes 14's text is: "Application status indicated Failed prior to promotion"
Note 19 is the image below
 
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legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,049
9,917
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Dear Legalfalcon

My study permit and tourist visa used to be refused last year and 2 years ago. So I answered Yes in the statutory questions and gave explanation with the copy of my refusal letters.
Like Olak131, mine is

Are we safe now? Does "Failed candidate" just mean I used to be a failed candidate in my visa in the past? Or does it mention my e-APR?
Plus, Notes 12-13 recited my explanation [Refused Admission Details]
Notes 14's text is: "Application status indicated Failed prior to promotion"
Note 19 is the image below
This is only with regard to the question you answers. You have cleared R10 and the reviewing agent has made a note cautioning the other agents who will conduct A11.2 or BGC to look into the statutory questions, depending on how serious the issue was.
 

Vivian_CND

Full Member
May 20, 2017
36
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Category........
PNP
Visa Office......
Don't know??!!
NOC Code......
1112
Doc's Request.
16-01-2017 Schedule A (IMM 5669). Doc sent 3h later
Nomination.....
15 Dec 2016
AOR Received.
27 Dec 2016
Ah thank you very much for your clarification. As long as the word "Failed candidate" is not for my application, it's Ok. The issue is lack of funds (some years ago) but my PoF for PR is "Met" now.