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reference letter this has created the problem
Some applications do take longer than expected and that does not mean that there is anything wrong. Most delayed are caused because the IRCC is slow in process or are waiting for some information on your file.

"File held awaiting response from PS regarding PC" - Here PS refers to Prescreen and PC is police certificate. I cannot explain as I am not aware of the context in which it is written. All I can suggest is keep ordering GCMS notes, and you will soon see a movement.
Hi Legalfalcon,
Is it possible that the background checks can be happening while prescreening police certificates? knowing that (until 28 March, date last GCMS generated) the application was held before clearning R10, are there any previous cases where there could be indication about how long prescreening takes?

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Stamping is not required, since the question stated "stamped" that is what I responded with. As per IRCC the requirement is:

  • a reference or experience letter from the employer, which
    • should be an official document printed on company letterhead (must include the applicant’s name, the company’s contact information [address, telephone number and email address], and the name, title and signature of the immediate supervisor or personnel officer at the company),
    • should indicate all positions held while employed at the company and must include the following details: job title, duties and responsibilities, job status (if current job), dates worked for the company, number of work hours per week and annual salary plus benefits;
Available at - http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/perm/express/intake-complete.asp
Hello
I got a bit worried here! my experience certificates are written in a way that there is a front page showing all information IRCC require while mentioning a statement says "the roles and responsibilities for each position title are detailed in the Job Descriptions". The Job descriptions are seperate pages printed on letter head and stamped but the front page is the only signed page. All pages stamped. Does that represent an issue?

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Hi Legalfalcon,
Is it possible that the background checks can be happening while prescreening police certificates? knowing that (until 28 March, date last GCMS generated) the application was held before clearning R10, are there any previous cases where there could be indication about how long prescreening takes?

Regards,
Criminality and Security are two different things. Criminality is based on PCCs and done by IRCC, while Security is a more through in-depth screening done by CSIS, which includes HIRV and anything under the sun.

There is no specific mandate that one has to be done before the other, but usually trend has been that the criminality is done along with the Eligibility and followed by security. All these happen after R10, which is the first step, even before eligibility.

R10 should usually be down within the first 45 days. Anything more than this is usually unheard of unless the applicant had asked for an extension or for some unknown reason.
 

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Hello
I got a bit worried here! my experience certificates are written in a way that there is a front page showing all information IRCC require while mentioning a statement says "the roles and responsibilities for each position title are detailed in the Job Descriptions". The Job descriptions are seperate pages printed on letter head and stamped but the front page is the only signed page. All pages stamped. Does that represent an issue?

Regards,
It should not be an issue as if the job description are a part of the reference letter where the first signed page states that the job description follows, and it is on letter head and stamped, it is fine.
 

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For the PoF you need to show that you have the required funds as stipulated by IRCC based on the number of family members you have and that there funds are actually yours and not borrowed. IRCC asks for the 6 months average balance to verify that the funds have been actually sitting in your account for over 6 months and not borrowed just to meet the PoF requirement.


Now since you have two bank account, one salary, and one savings, for which by including the account statement you can show that you have the funds to meet the PoF requirement. You can either show that you have these funds in your salary or your savings, or consolidate them together, it does not matter.

As regards the gift from an uncle, that is suspicious, since a gift from any one other than close family members who are related by blood raises a suspicion that it is not a gift, but a loan. However, if you can ask them to transfer the funds to your account and sign a gift deed, this would do.

You can sell your car and show the funds, just include the sale paper, and mention this is the LoE.

For the loan you got back from your friend, if it has been over 6 months, no need to show that it was a loan repaid back, but if it is less than 6 months, there will be issues as I believe you had nothing to show that this was given as a loan and now you are getting it back.


You will need a very solid LoE to put all these things together and with all the documentation as you have a lot of things going on in your account with funds coming from all over which creates more suspicion.
Hey LF,

Thanks a lot for the input. I think in this case, to avoid any ambiguity, the best option would be to pool all the cash, desposit it in my mother-in-law's account and have it transferred to my account. She can sign a gift deed for this transfer renouncing her claim. She lives in India and I live in Dubai - I don't think the gift deed needs to be signed by me? Do we also need an affidavit or just the Gift Deed is sufficient?

The only potential issue I am concerned about here is if CIC asks for her bank statement during the process. Is that possible?

Thank you again!!
 

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Criminality and Security are two different things. Criminality is based on PCCs and done by IRCC, while Security is a more through in-depth screening done by CSIS, which includes HIRV and anything under the sun.

There is no specific mandate that one has to be done before the other, but usually trend has been that the criminality is done along with the Eligibility and followed by security. All these happen after R10, which is the first step, even before eligibility.

R10 should usually be down within the first 45 days. Anything more than this is usually unheard of unless the applicant had asked for an extension or for some unknown reason.
Thank you legalfalcon. You know, that is what makes me worried, 5 months and the application on hold for PC prescreening...R10 not complete. I didn't ask for any extension, my application is a straight forward one.. two PC for me and two for spouse. Never been to "certain" countries, my travel history is between UAE and home country for the last 11 years. Been to Europ once for tourism. I am really confused. Could it be becasue my wife has two nationalities?
 

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Thank you legalfalcon. You know, that is what makes me worried, 5 months and the application on hold for PC prescreening...R10 not complete. I didn't ask for any extension, my application is a straight forward one.. two PC for me and two for spouse. Never been to "certain" countries, my travel history is between UAE and home country for the last 11 years. Been to Europ once for tourism. I am really confused. Could it be becasue my wife has two nationalities?
I cannot speculate. The best would be to send an email to IRCC and ask. Also call them, order GCMS notes. These are the only alternatives in a closed IRCC system. I hope there is some progress on your application soon.
 

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I cannot speculate. The best would be to send an email to IRCC and ask. Also call them, order GCMS notes. These are the only alternatives in a closed IRCC system. I hope there is some progress on your application soon.
Thank you Legalfalcon. I think patience is the key here... I consumed all means of contact with them, and yes it is a closed system. I'll wait..

Thank you again, your advice is very much appreciated.
 

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Hey LF,

Thanks a lot for the input. I think in this case, to avoid any ambiguity, the best option would be to pool all the cash, desposit it in my mother-in-law's account and have it transferred to my account. She can sign a gift deed for this transfer renouncing her claim. She lives in India and I live in Dubai - I don't think the gift deed needs to be signed by me? Do we also need an affidavit or just the Gift Deed is sufficient?

The only potential issue I am concerned about here is if CIC asks for her bank statement during the process. Is that possible?

Thank you again!!

Instead of putting all the cash in your mother-in-laws, only put what you are getting from other sources. The funds you already have, just keep it where it is and show it, even if it is in two different accounts.

The gift deed requirements will depend in which country you are in and what is the procedural requirement there. So check with your local lawyer. or the local laws in your country.
 

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hi legalfalcon sir,, i have similar question . . ask my parent to gift deed me after i have got my ita,, do i get to provide parent's bank accouht statement as well ?
 

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Hi
Can you please clear my doubt regarding address history

I have a travel history to the US for 2 weeks. Should I mention the address of the US stay in the address history.
Since it was a short trip I am not sure if I have to mention it in the address history, I have mentioned the details needed in the travel history.

Thank you in advance...
 

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Hi Legalfalcon,

I withdrew my application 6 days after submission because I was afraid of misrepresentation. However, my ECAS still shows in progress. Is it possible for them to decline my application to withdraw? how long does it take to withdraw the application?

When I called, the agent told me my application had not began processing so I should hopefully expect a full refund. She also said it had been noted in my file but not yet actioned.

I have documents to fight any misrepresentation allegations but I just dont want to have to worry about that. Is it possible for them to decline?
 

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Hi, I am AOR - 14 Feb , CEC. Medical pass & IP1 - 12 March. RCMP request - 1 May, submitted RCMP - May 1.
I received my GCMS notes today. If someone could please help me. On the email received it says -

"The processing of your request is now complete. Please refer to the following for an explanation as to what was released:
Disposition of your records: Disclosed in part

Section(s) of the Act applied (if applicable): 16(1)(c) injurious to the enforcement of any law of Canada or a province or the conduct of lawful investigations, 19(1) personal information"

On first page of report :

Eligibility - Not Started
Security - Not Started
Crimilnality - In progress
Medical - Passed


The pages which are marked as 16(1)(c) are as follows -


ASSOCIATIONS -
Application & Cases - 0
Some info is white out(hidden) under it.
GROUPS -
Groups - 0
Again, some info is white out (hidden) under it.

On the last page where agent notes are -

Note #
Created date - 2017/04/22
Created by - abc
Updated date - 2017/04/22
Updated by - abc
Restricted - No
Label - General
Office - CPC -Ottawa

Text -

Everything under is white out(hidden).

My question is - As all of the agent notes from CPC - Ottawa are hidden how can i interpret it. Is it something serious. I have no such history and have a clean record. Could it be related to RCMP request or job related as i read few posts. Also how come eligibility is also not passed yet and file moved to CPC-Ottawa. No mention of passing R10 & 11.2 in the agent reviews.
Though there was a note regarding RCMP fingerprint request on 13 March on my notes ..I received the RCMP request on May 1. There was lot of delay in asking for the report.


Any insight into it would be appreciated. Thanks
 
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Hi, I am AOR - 14 Feb , CEC. Medical pass & IP1 - 12 March. RCMP request - 1 May, submitted RCMP - May 1.
I received my GCMS notes today. If someone could please help me. On the email received it says -

"The processing of your request is now complete. Please refer to the following for an explanation as to what was released:
Disposition of your records: Disclosed in part

Section(s) of the Act applied (if applicable): 16(1)(c) injurious to the enforcement of any law of Canada or a province or the conduct of lawful investigations, 19(1) personal information"

On first page of report :

Eligibility - Not Started
Security - Not Started
Crimilnality - In progress
Medical - Passed


The pages which are marked as 16(1)(c) are as follows -


ASSOCIATIONS -
Application & Cases - 0
Some info is white out(hidden) under it.
GROUPS -
Groups - 0
Again, some info is white out (hidden) under it.

On the last page where agent notes are -

Note #
Created date - 2017/04/22
Created by - abc
Updated date - 2017/04/22
Updated by - abc
Restricted - No
Label - General
Office - CPC -Ottawa

Text -

Everything under is white out(hidden).

My question is - As all of the agent notes from CPC - Ottawa are hidden how can i interpret it. Is it something serious. I have no such history and have a clean record. Could it be related to RCMP request or job related as i read few posts. Also how come eligibility is also not passed yet and file moved to CPC-Ottawa. No mention of passing R10 & 11.2 in the agent reviews.
Though there was a note regarding RCMP fingerprint request on 13 March on my notes ..I received the RCMP request on May 1. There was lot of delay in asking for the report.

1) This is common. Sections that contain classified information are always redacted. Use the link below to learn more about the various sections under which the information can be <<rightly>> redacted.

http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/A-1/page-1.html

2) The time taken for various evaluations/checks can differ from person to person. This differs from person to person. If you do not see the personnel mentioning about R10/A11.2 in the last 2 pages, then those evaluations might not have been completed yet.

Good luck!


Any insight into it would be appreciated. Thanks
 
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Hi LegalFalcon.

My BG check went to "Not applicable" a few days after AOR, and for some people after 2 months. What does it mean?