Pfl for permanent resident application

[Fahmoyusuf]

Hi I need help please
I have submitted family class sp application for my husband and I have attached all the wedding photos and the ceremony and all travel documents but still received PFL yesterday and I am so overwhelmed I met with an immigration consultant immediately and he told me this is serious case and 80% I might get rejected
Please anyone has ideas?
Here is what it says in the email:
After carefully reviewing your application and supporting documents, I have concerns that you do
not meet the requirements under the Act and/or the Regulations as described above.
Based on the evidence provided, I have concerns that the sponsor may not have been in
Kenya at the time of the wedding date which could fall under the classification of an
excluded relationship. Also, aside from the photos which have no date stamp or location
indication, there is no additional proof that the sponsor was present for the religious
ceremony in Kenya.
Please provide evidence that prove that the Sponsor was in Kenya at the time of the
wedding and any prior or subsequent visits that includes and is not limited to clear copies
of the boarding passes, Kenya visa and border entry/exit stamps.
Please also include all passport pages with border entry/exit stamps of travel for the
sponsor and the applicant that is mentioned on the IMM5532 form.

 

[Copingwithlife]

Hi I need help please
I have submitted family class sp application for my husband and I have attached all the wedding photos and the ceremony and all travel documents but still received PFL yesterday and I am so overwhelmed I met with an immigration consultant immediately and he told me this is serious case and 80% I might get rejected
Please anyone has ideas?
Here is what it says in the email:
After carefully reviewing your application and supporting documents, I have concerns that you do
not meet the requirements under the Act and/or the Regulations as described above.
Based on the evidence provided, I have concerns that the sponsor may not have been in
Kenya at the time of the wedding date which could fall under the classification of an
excluded relationship. Also, aside from the photos which have no date stamp or location
indication, there is no additional proof that the sponsor was present for the religious
ceremony in Kenya.
Please provide evidence that prove that the Sponsor was in Kenya at the time of the
wedding and any prior or subsequent visits that includes and is not limited to clear copies
of the boarding passes, Kenya visa and border entry/exit stamps.
Please also include all passport pages with border entry/exit stamps of travel for the
sponsor and the applicant that is mentioned on the IMM5532 form.

So provide the information that’s being requested

Supposedly you didn’t include the documents that they require

 

[Fahmoyusuf]

I am collecting all the information now and I have all the Proos but what is really saddening me is that the immigration consultant has told me I will still get rejected even if I prove it and my chance of rejection is 80%

 

[Copingwithlife]

I am collecting all the information now and I have all the Proos but what is really saddening me is that the immigration consultant has told me I will still get rejected even if I prove it and my chance of rejection is 80%

What exactly did you include for proof ?

From the letter it sounds like they think you weren’t there at all

 

[armoured]

I am collecting all the information now and I have all the Proos but what is really saddening me is that the immigration consultant has told me I will still get rejected even if I prove it and my chance of rejection is 80%

Was the wedding conducted in person or not? That is, it seems like the wedding was carried out in Kenya - were you both physically present, or not?

If not, this is a marriage by proxy, which is not recognized by Canada (at least for immigration purposes). The wedding will have to be redone, presumably meaning an annulment or divorce first.

 

[Fahmoyusuf]

Yes , we were both physically present and sent the wedding pictures

 

[Buletruck]

Yes , we were both physically present and sent the wedding pictures

Did you make any other trips to visit your spouse, either before or after the wedding?

 

[Fahmoyusuf]

No , that was the only one . What he is asking is the wedding photos has no stamp which he said that might be I the sponsor was not present.
I was wondering if I need to get a lawyer or just submit the requested documents by myself?

 

[Buletruck]

No , that was the only one . What he is asking is the wedding photos has no stamp which he said that might be I the sponsor was not present.
I was wondering if I need to get a lawyer or just submit the requested documents by myself?

Get a lawyer. It's pretty much a one shot opportunity to respond to the PFL. And an immigration lawyer......not a consultant.

 

[armoured]

No , that was the only one . What he is asking is the wedding photos has no stamp which he said that might be I the sponsor was not present.
I was wondering if I need to get a lawyer or just submit the requested documents by myself?

I think you are not reading the PFL correctly - it reads to me that the officer does not believe the sponsor (? or possibly the PA) was in Kenya at all. The comment about the photos simply states that the photos are not good proof of presence in Kenya for the wedding.

REad this carefully: "aside from the photos which have no date stamp or location indication, there is no additional proof that the sponsor was present for the religious ceremony in Kenya.
Please provide evidence that prove that the Sponsor was in Kenya at the time of the wedding and any prior or subsequent visits that includes and is not limited to clear copies
of the boarding passes, Kenya visa and border entry/exit stamps.
Please also include all passport pages with border entry/exit stamps of travel for the sponsor and the applicant that is mentioned on the IMM5532 form."

See my bolds. The letter mentions proof beyond photos that the sponsor was in Kenya esp at time of wedding three or four times.

I do not know why they don't believe this, but it's clear to me that's the issue. (Or part of it anyway)

 

[YVR123]

I am collecting all the information now and I have all the Proos but what is really saddening me is that the immigration consultant has told me I will still get rejected even if I prove it and my chance of rejection is 80%

I think the consultant you contacted was bad.

As another member replied, IRCC wants you to show them that you are physically there at your wedding.
If you have flight tickets, hotel booking, passport stamps ...etc to show that you are physically there with your spouse at the wedding, you are fine.
Get an immigration lawyer and respond to the PFL asap. It's a one time shot as others said. It needs to be a proper respond to address IRCC's concern.

 

[armoured]

I was wondering if I need to get a lawyer or just submit the requested documents by myself?

I didn't answer this question. I don't know the answer, not exactly. It depends what proof you had that you were both there and have visited each other, etc.

But crucially we didn't see your file and know the details - you should know better. If you were both there, this should not be hard to prove.

It would be worth looking at other parts of your application, too - it seems it was not good evidence that you had spent time together.

If you have good evidence, you may not need a lawyer. If the file is fraudulent, a lawyer is probably not going to help.

If this is still unclear to you (that is, why the file was considered weak) - then you might need a lawyer or a good consultant.

This might be very important, this last point: if you don't understand, there's an issue, because IRCC clearly thinks the file is fraudulent.

I wouldn't even guess what the chances of success are, not without knowing the underlying issues.

 

[Copingwithlife]

No , that was the only one . What he is asking is the wedding photos has no stamp which he said that might be I the sponsor was not present.
I was wondering if I need to get a lawyer or just submit the requested documents by myself?

So you say you only made one trip and got married on this one trip ?

 

[Fahmoyusuf]

Yes

 

[Fahmoyusuf]

I didn't answer this question. I don't know the answer, not exactly. It depends what proof you had that you were both there and have visited each other, etc. But crucially we didn't see your file and know the details - you should know better. If you were both there, this should not be hard to prove. It would be worth looking at other parts of your application, too - it seems it was not good evidence that you had spent time together. If you have good evidence, you may not need a lawyer. If the file is fraudulent, a lawyer is probably not going to help. If this is still unclear to you (that is, why the file was considered weak) - then you might need a lawyer or a good consultant. This might be very important, this last point: if you don't understand, there's an issue, because IRCC clearly thinks the file is fraudulent. I wouldn't even guess what the chances of success are, not without knowing the underlying issues. thank you very much this