ECOPR
- Thread starter samitha shetty
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There are many July AORs who applied as outland and still didn't receive any updates after getting their eligibility completed. The background checks is taking longer than usual.
Honestly with the other changes I'm not sure if having separate inland and outland even makes sense any more. But I reckon they have more urgent matters at hand than thinking about that.
I'm not sure what fraud prevention can be handled differently (but of course if there are, they should do that). To be clear, I'm not suggesting that all outland applicants should automatically get TRVs while it's processed. But now that outland applicants who are in Canada can apply for the OPW, there's not much distinction of significance left.
Not that getting rid of one would change much either. it would have more impact to just deal with the weird black hole that seems to happen for some 'outland' applicants where the p1-p2-ecopr process gets held up. Note, I mean only after the PPR or equivalent is done.
Think it may become harder to refuse TRVs if it was one category. As pointed out also creates issues with landing although there does seem to be more efforts being made to confirm presence in Canada before landing someone via eCOPR.
I admit I don't understand your logic here. All they'd be doing, essentially, would be removing the separate 'class' of inland - which right now only applies to those already in Canada. No need to change anything at all with respect to TRVs.
Everyone would be just applying under the current family class, present in Canada at time of applying or not.
And just as now, those who arrive in Canada with a TRV after applying can apply for an OWP.
At the time of sending "PPR" they confirm if the applicant's in country or not and schedule them for virtual landing - basically just as now.
There are some details I'm not diving into right now because not directly related to this. (Current out-of-status inland and the related public policy, interviews - more and more virtual anyway - and I'm sure some other details).
Think it may be harder to justify not allowing all spouses to enter Canada during sponsorship if you eliminate the Outland/inland component. It has already become much easier to enter but IRCC still has some tools left if there are concerns. Once in Canada it is much harder to force people to leave so unless IRCC has a mechanism to remove failed spousal sponsorships without allowing people to make other claims not sure if IRCC would want to merge both inland and Outland. Already flaws in the system like not cancelling OWPs for family sponsorship applicants if sponsorship is withdrawn or refused.
I think this is an entirely made up concern. We already have this now, in practice. It doesn't remove any tools that already exist. They can pretty much deny TRVs to anyone they like. (Yes, removals are still an issue - agreed).
But if we're going to fantasize about how much governments in future are going to be concerned about 'justifying' a policy, sure.
I don't see them overly concerned about justifying the existing overly punitive and harsh approaches to (in many cases inadvertently) neglecting to disclose a common law spouse, or the revocation of PR status for protected people who travel back to their country of origin (in many cases years and years after they faced any risk, e.g. when they really do not face persecution anymore etc. I'm not defending all such revocations of course, but now it's used as a blunderbuss).
Whether justified or not I would assume spouses outside Canada would contest TRV refusals for spouses under a general policy. To merge together IRCC would likely need to be prepared to authorize TRVs for all spouses. Certainly an option to consider but has its pitfalls.
I really don't understand what you're talking about.
THEY CAN DO THIS NOW.
So to me, your assumption makes no sense.
But I'm done debating with the assumptions you make.
I got my P2 email on Jan 8 and submitted my info on the same day (Inland applicant - outside Quebec).
I am still waiting for my eCOPR. I know that it takes a few days for some, but some people have to wait for months to get it. Are there people in the same situation?
I am still waiting for my eCOPR. I know that it takes a few days for some, but some people have to wait for months to get it. Are there people in the same situation?
My P2 is on JAN 22, inland, outside Quebec, still waiting for eCOPR