Spousal sponsorship

[thanhtam23]

Currently I am a Canadian citizen living with my wife in Brazil and applying for sponsorship for her, with the intention to live in Canada.

On the application they ask for proof that I will return to Canada, but don't provide examples of what this proof could be. What could I use for this?

Also, if we get the AOR and apply for the TRV for her, will that affect the overall process, considering I am sponsoring her from outside Canada?

think about it, what will you do if you're about to return to Canada? you need to at least find house and job right? show them how you're going about it
if you're both outside Canada, why would you need TRV for her? better to be transparent and consistent of your story in the application

 

[Aquitaine90]

think about it, what will you do if you're about to return to Canada? you need to at least find house and job right? show them how you're going about it
if you're both outside Canada, why would you need TRV for her? better to be transparent and consistent of your story in the application

All my family is in Canada, my family will be hosting us when we return, until we find our own place. Would that be sufficient proof? As for job, if I am planning to take an online course, would that be proof enough?

For the TRV, we both have family there and an upcoming wedding we'd like to attend, or would this harm our application? Is the TRV after receiving AOR only to reunite spouses?

 

[armoured]

if you're both outside Canada, why would you need TRV for her? better to be transparent and consistent of your story in the application

I agree with your suggestions, but nothing remotely odd about wanting to get TRV for spouse --- amongst other things, in order to settle in, find housing, get prepared, etc., according to one's own timeline and plans and not just the PR process.

Given they're asking you to demonstrate you plan to actually return to Canada, actually asking for a visa in order to ... actually return to Canada is pretty damn normal. Indeed, I'd say many/most sponsors would benefit from returning earlier (possibly earlier than spouse) - and that is good evidence to present to IRCC.

Let's not shame or make it sound weird for people to try to do normal stuff. The odd thing out is that many couples can't do this for lack of a visa, nothing wrong with them trying.

 

[armoured]

All my family is in Canada, my family will be hosting us when we return, until we find our own place. Would that be sufficient proof? As for job, if I am planning to take an online course, would that be proof enough?

Get letters or whatever you can about that, for job search, even web searches are better than nothing.

But important: after you set out your plan, continue to work on it. IRCC comes back often after application in process and ask for more info. If yhou've kept at it and kept records, it'll be easy.

For the TRV, we both have family there and an upcoming wedding we'd like to attend, or would this harm our application? Is the TRV after receiving AOR only to reunite spouses?

You'll see my other post above. Nothign wrong with it at all. Not a guarantee she'll get it, but go ahead and apply. Just note, your spouse shouldn't show up with all worldly belongings - it's a visitor visa.

 

[Aquitaine90]

Get letters or whatever you can about that, for job search, even web searches are better than nothing.

But important: after you set out your plan, continue to work on it. IRCC comes back often after application in process and ask for more info. If yhou've kept at it and kept records, it'll be easy.



You'll see my other post above. Nothign wrong with it at all. Not a guarantee she'll get it, but go ahead and apply. Just note, your spouse shouldn't show up with all worldly belongings - it's a visitor visa.

Thank you for the reply. I found the question vague, because in other parts of the application they are specific with examples, but for that question they don't state any examples of valid proof. But perhaps the application for TRV itself could be proof as well?

My other question was, if she does get a TRV, but while in Canada, she gets called to do biometrics/medical or other things, would she have to travel back to her country to do all this? I'm trying to cover all the angles to see if it's even worth applying.

 

[armoured]

Thank you for the reply. I found the question vague, because in other parts of the application they are specific with examples, but for that question they don't state any examples of valid proof. But perhaps the application for TRV itself could be proof as well?

My other question was, if she does get a TRV, but while in Canada, she gets called to do biometrics/medical or other things, would she have to travel back to her country to do all this? I'm trying to cover all the angles to see if it's even worth applying.

I wouldn't use the TRV as evidence, no need to bring it up. Again, for the app, put what you can and outlines of a plan. Then work on the plan. If you expect to travel, mention that, but then stick to it. Again, the basics are place to live, way to make a living, bringing your stuff, and whatever else you can think of.

Biometrics and medicals and everything else can be done in Canada (unless there are docs she has to get in home country, I wouldn't know about that).

In theory she'd have to return to home country if they request an interview, but those are rare, and it's possible they do some online now (during covid they started, I don't know about now).

 

[thanhtam23]

I agree with your suggestions, but nothing remotely odd about wanting to get TRV for spouse --- amongst other things, in order to settle in, find housing, get prepared, etc., according to one's own timeline and plans and not just the PR process.

Given they're asking you to demonstrate you plan to actually return to Canada, actually asking for a visa in order to ... actually return to Canada is pretty damn normal. Indeed, I'd say many/most sponsors would benefit from returning earlier (possibly earlier than spouse) - and that is good evidence to present to IRCC.

Let's not shame or make it sound weird for people to try to do normal stuff. The odd thing out is that many couples can't do this for lack of a visa, nothing wrong with them trying.

well, it's simply a question (that i bet an officer will be wondering himself) and i'm sorry if it sounds like shaming
while there is no guarantee nor impact whatsoever, having a TRV application is absolutely normal with PR application in progress

My other question was, if she does get a TRV, but while in Canada, she gets called to do biometrics/medical or other things, would she have to travel back to her country to do all this? I'm trying to cover all the angles to see if it's even worth applying.

she can do biometrics/medical from anywhere in the world

 

[Aquitaine90]

Thank you for the feedback, it definitely helps with this part of the application I've been stuck on

 

[armoured]

well, it's simply a question (that i bet an officer will be wondering himself) and i'm sorry if it sounds like shaming
while there is no guarantee nor impact whatsoever, having a TRV application is absolutely normal with PR application in progress

You wrote "if you're both outside Canada, why would you need TRV for her? better to be transparent and consistent of your story in the application."

That fairly clearly implies that there's something non-transparent and inconsistent about applying for a TRV in this circumstance. Now you seem to be writing something else, though.

But it's none of those things. It's perfectly normal. Lots of couples apply outland when residing outside Canada and in the normal course of preparing to move to Canada realize it would be convenient and useful to come earlier, eg they want to visit and/or actually arrive earlier, together.

 

[ZA1995]

I will try to keep this short & simple. I applied for spousal PR in Quebec on June 10, 2022. After waiting for a long time with no updates, I requested my GCMS notes. To my surprise, in February 2024, IRCC requested an updated CV/Resume and a new Schedule A, but no explanation was provided. I submitted everything as requested, and on February 14, 2024, my security screening officially started with a due date of March 15, 2024. However, it’s still listed as ‘In Progress’ 8 months later.

What’s puzzling is that my Criminality, Medical, and Info Sharing checks were all completed between June and July 2022 — nearly 2 years before the security screening even began. This makes me wonder if my file was simply forgotten and only picked up after 2 years of inactivity. One lawyer suggested this delay might be linked to spousal PR quotas, implying IRCC intentionally slows down applications.

I’m trying to understand my next steps. How long do security checks typically take? Could it really take 2 more years on top of the 31 months I’ve already waited? Should I file for CBSA notes to see what’s going on? Would it be helpful to ask my MP to contact CBSA on my behalf? Lastly, when is the right time to file for a mandamus? I’m feeling stuck and would appreciate any guidance.

 

[Jaxx85]

I would also be concerned about getting the marriage certificate on time, so definitely apply to extend.

Thanks for the advice we are going to extend her visitor visa

 

[Jaxx85]

Yes, you need to apply for a visitor extension. Submitting the spousal sponsorship application does not give her implied status. She will only have that once she applies for the OWP which she cannot do until she has AOR.

Thanks for the advice.
we are going to extend her visitor visa

 

[YVR123]

Thanks for the advice.
we are going to extend her visitor visa

You need to extend her stay as visitor.

 

[KelownaBound]

Applied for PR as PA in early October 2024 through outland Canadian citizen spousal sponsorship. Application has moved along - AOR, SA eligibility approved, PA eligibility approved, Medical approved, BIL approved, BGC in progress.

Saw just now that my account status had not changed but an additional message was added to the Application Status. Today, they had added in today's date i.e.
'10 December 2024. Your application is in progress. We will send you a message......' Before it was just the message but did not have a date.
Is this a 'ghost update'?

 

[ABWAQAR]

Hi folks, I need a suggestion. My wife has submitted information on the virtual landing Portal 2, and we have been waiting for ECOPR for a month now since 12 November 2024. I have submitted a web form, requesting them to expedite the process and also issue me a letter so we can apply for her Ontario health card. We went to Service Ontario and they said they need a letter from IRCC to apply for a health card since she qualifies for PR yet doesn't have COPR.