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Locco1979

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May 24, 2024
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Thanks for explaining this. I always wondered how come “we are waiting for third party background assessment” phrase from IRCC suddenly didn’t matter when someone files a writ of mandamus. The IRCC then goes ahead and grants citizenship as if those background checks are suddenly completed. Just broken and mismanaged system.

Seems that my response has been signaled, truth hurts ;)
 

Locco1979

Member
May 24, 2024
15
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The randomness and discrimination of being in extended background check hurts. Its been 15 months for me. They are processing the newer applications within 4-5 months.
There's no randomness in the process, it is just a deliberated chaos that was allowed to proliferate for all these years and for those same reasons that I have cited in my "signaled" response.

Don't you dare using terms like "discrimination" you never know, you might hurt some "ultra sensitive souls" of the forum :p

80% of the new applications are within 7 to 8 months, again it was a deliberate choice from IRCC to cut corners and be much more conservative as whether to send applicants for enhanced security or not.
 
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Locco1979

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May 24, 2024
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"Its been 15 months for me."

If they only were truly and effectively investigating someone for such a long time : that person should not be waiting for any decision but rather should be in jail or deported out of the country for being a super-duper spy :D

So stupid !!
 

Graykoala

Star Member
Aug 14, 2019
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"Its been 15 months for me."

If they only were truly and effectively investigating someone for such a long time : that person should not be waiting for any decision but rather should be in jail or deported out of the country for being a super-duper spy :D

So stupid !!
what’s more concerning is that they have granted pr and citizenship to people who are an actual security threat, even some ministers were recently involved in questionable activities. But these so called third parties of IRCC want to harass some normal people who wouldn’t even hurt a fly.
 

TechTimer

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Aug 16, 2024
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Thanks for the detailed information.
Did CSIS clear anyone background in this group who was waiting for longer time without "Writ of Mandamus" ?
People who applied "Writ of Mandamus", could you let me know the average cost of this application and lawyer charges ?
 

Locco1979

Member
May 24, 2024
15
4
Thanks for the detailed information.
Did CSIS clear anyone background in this group who was waiting for longer time without "Writ of Mandamus" ?
People who applied "Writ of Mandamus", could you let me know the average cost of this application and lawyer charges ?
The average cost across the country is around 2k if the case doesn't reach the federal court etc.. but could go up 7k and more if it does. Some Law firms offer a more discounted price for group applications etc...

Did CSIS clear anyone background in this group who was waiting for longer time without "Writ of Mandamus" ?

I am new to this forum but I must assume that the majority did. The question is not if CSIS will clear your background or not but how much you can afford to wait ? 2 years ? 4 years ? 5 years ?

I came across this horror story in the internet where the person had to wait for 7 years !! His application was under security screening since in 2016, only to be invited for oath last year in 2023 !!! o_Oo_O

Source https://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvicecanada/comments/stlxd5
 

Izytiti

Star Member
Aug 18, 2020
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The randomness and discrimination of being in extended background check hurts. Its been 15 months for me. They are processing the newer applications within 4-5 months.
I see IRCC as weak in this background checks thing. They just sit back like some dormant institution and allow CSIS to spend as many years as they preferred in name of the so-called security checks perhaps on innocuous applicants. It is surprising these two institution do not have timeline or have not agreed on timeline for background checks.
Now if you carefully look at the reasons for their screening, it is mind boggling they spend that much time background checking applicants. If someone is a security threat or is engaged in hostile and subversive activities whether now or in the past, under normal circumstance, they should not be spending years trying to figure the person out. It is like a fire truck arriving to fire scene three days after the fire started. System needs fixing but because this aspect concerns immigrants, no one cares. Totally unacceptable to spend months and years on security screening a person as if they committed the biggest crime in the world. Most people who are victims of this extended backgrounds have clean criminal records and never engaged in any crime. If you are agent of CSIS and you are reading this, please tell your institution they can do better than what is going on now!
 
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OCanada1867

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Jan 1, 2020
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I am in the same boat. Applied May 2023, BG still pending. How much do you think one should wait before it would be appropriate to file a mandamus.
 

ta123

Star Member
Sep 14, 2023
74
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Hi Folks,

Has anyone had any updates recently?

I ordered GCMS notes and contacted my MP a month ago. I recently received the result and I got the same old answer. Nothing has changed and the application is still under security screening.

I am starting to consider talking to lawyers as I am losing all hope that anything will get resolved on its own without interference.

What are you guys going to do?
 

MajidA

Full Member
Jan 8, 2021
24
14
Hi Folks,

Has anyone had any updates recently?

I ordered GCMS notes and contacted my MP a month ago. I recently received the result and I got the same old answer. Nothing has changed and the application is still under security screening.

I am starting to consider talking to lawyers as I am losing all hope that anything will get resolved on its own without interference.

What are you guys going to do?
Still waiting sadly, it's been a year since ss started according to CBSA notes. I'm planning to wait until the next year then start talking to lawyers.

@tired_man did you go for Mandamus, any results?
 

faisalyaakhan

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Feb 13, 2019
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AOR Received.
02-04-2019
Hi Folks,

Has anyone had any updates recently?

I ordered GCMS notes and contacted my MP a month ago. I recently received the result and I got the same old answer. Nothing has changed and the application is still under security screening.

I am starting to consider talking to lawyers as I am losing all hope that anything will get resolved on its own without interference.

What are you guys going to do?
Same for me, no updates. 4 notes and 3 times contacted MP.

As per CBSA notes, everything is completed and only CSIS Security Screening is In-Progress. This is my 16th month of Security Screening.

One interesting thing in my notes was, they redid my criminality last month because its been more than a year I passed my criminality.

I heard, Mandamus might not work if your application is with CSIS, since Mandamus is for IRCC not CSIS.

I saw in one of the WhatsApp groups, an individual of April 11 2023 AOR got their Security cleared, so they are still processing April 2nd week if everything is "normal"
 

Seym

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Nov 6, 2017
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I heard, Mandamus might not work if your application is with CSIS, since Mandamus is for IRCC not CSIS.
Every application is different and we can't say how a specific one for an applicant stuck with CSIS will go, but the citizenship application (or any other application sent to IRCC) coming to an end is IRCC's responsibility. They can't get away with "well, it's in someone else's hand" for an infinite amount of time.

Both IRCC and lawyers / judges are well aware of this :
https://www.canlii.org/en/ca/fct/doc/2005/2005fc803/2005fc803.html

Check point 21 in Hamalipoor vs Canada.
This is not to say that it will work in a given situation for a specific applicant after a specific delay (and in Hamalipoor's case, we're speaking about a frankly ridiculous 5 years wait), but given the jurisprudence, absolutely nothing stops an applicant stuck in BG to consult with a lawyer and start the process. They should have a better feel about how it will go.

Good luck to anyone going that road, or anyone stuck significantly longer than the expected time really!
And if anyone goes for it, please let us know the details, should help future applicant googling this same thing :)
 
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tired_man

Full Member
Nov 7, 2023
26
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Still waiting sadly, it's been a year since ss started according to CBSA notes. I'm planning to wait until the next year then start talking to lawyers.

@tired_man did you go for Mandamus, any results?
Hello,
Still waiting for the leave decision which will be in the next couple of months. No movement at all.