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Last friday i got charged with operating while impaired 320.14(1)a and ipaired over 80 320.14(1)b on 22nd april 2024. I have PR but im scared i might get deported. My bac reading were 170 and 180. My first court appearance is on april 5th.
what should i do to avoid conviction?
 

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Last friday i got charged with operating while impaired 320.14(1)a and ipaired over 80 320.14(1)b on 22nd april 2024. I have PR but im scared i might get deported. My bac reading were 170 and 180. My first court appearance is on april 5th.
what should i do to avoid conviction?
Hire a very good criminal lawyer immediately.
 
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Hire a very good criminal lawyer immediately.
What are my chances of getting a conditional charge you think? I cannot be convicted. I cannot get deported as i am refugee seeking asylum here. I have PR but if i get deported my life will be in danger.
 

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What are my chances of getting a conditional charge you think? I cannot be convicted. I cannot get deported as i am refugee seeking asylum here. I have PR but if i get deported my life will be in danger.
I can't tell you your chances of getting a conditional discharge. This is a question for a criminal lawyer. Unfortunately your BAC looks like it was quite high.
 

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Last friday i got charged with operating while impaired 320.14(1)a and ipaired over 80 320.14(1)b on 22nd april 2024. I have PR but im scared i might get deported. My bac reading were 170 and 180. My first court appearance is on april 5th.
what should i do to avoid conviction?
Totally stupid move on your side. I hope they throw the book at you. Drunk driving can kill innocent people, shame on you
 

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Last friday i got charged with operating while impaired 320.14(1)a and ipaired over 80 320.14(1)b on 22nd april 2024. I have PR but im scared i might get deported. My bac reading were 170 and 180. My first court appearance is on april 5th.
what should i do to avoid conviction?

...What are my chances of getting a conditional charge you think?
@scylla is right. Your BAC is high enough to attract the ire of most judges.

I take it your reference to "a conditional charge" is a reference to a conditional discharge. Given your high BAC readings, I would regard that as an unlikely disposition. Even a conditional sentence might be a stretch.

The only thing I see on your side is that, at least in some parts of Canada, all drinking/driving offences, apart from those causing death or bodily harm, are no longer really regarded as criminal, although they remain in the Code. They are seen more as administrative offences and dealt with under provincial legislation. Here, in BC, most impaired drivers never have to submit to breathalyzer tests. Instead, they blow into an ASD - Approved Screening Device - at roadside. It does not show a BAC, just a Pass/Warn/Fail. A fail gets you an IRP - Immediate Roadside Prohibition.

Here in BC, it's been years since I saw an impaired case go to trial. I am not sure of your province, but I suspect it's not BC. Here, as long as you are capable of standing up and can blow into the ASD, you don't have to worry about a criminal charge.

I just took a quick look at my own database of all BC criminal cases since 1995. Turned up 1178 impaired driving cases, including impaired care and control, refusing to blow, etc. Did not spot any after 2007, but I did not spend a long time looking. But I know there are few, in any, in recent years,

So yes, find a criminal lawyer. Here in BC, probably not many remember how to defend an impaired charge, apart from basic Charter arguments under, mostly, ss. 9, 10(a) and 10(b) of the Charter. Those kinds of arguments get made in respect of almost any type of criminal charge. You might get lucky and the Crown will withdraw the charge because, in BC at least, Crown counsel would probably not know how to prosecute such a case and the trial judge would likely have no clue as to how to decide it. That's a bit of exaggeration, but not far from the truth.
 
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YVR123

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Last friday i got charged with operating while impaired 320.14(1)a and ipaired over 80 320.14(1)b on 22nd april 2024. I have PR but im scared i might get deported. My bac reading were 170 and 180. My first court appearance is on april 5th.
what should i do to avoid conviction?
You are a PR and DUI charge can cost you your PR status and get you deported.
Get a very good lawyer.
Drunk driving is a very serious crime in Canada.
 

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Last friday i got charged with operating while impaired 320.14(1)a and ipaired over 80 320.14(1)b on 22nd april 2024. I have PR but im scared i might get deported. My bac reading were 170 and 180. My first court appearance is on april 5th.
what should i do to avoid conviction?
And as you should be scared .

What you did was extremely stupid & reckless

If you were looking for sympathy, you won’t get it
 

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Drunk driving is a very serious crime in Canada.
Maybe in parts of Canada, I can't say.

I agree drunk driving should be a very serious crime in Canada. However, in BC at least, it's no longer treated as such. No more stigma of a criminal conviction. No risk of imprisonment. Just a 90-day driving prohibition, then carry on.
 
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Maybe in parts of Canada, I can't say.

I agree drunk driving should be a very serious crime in Canada. However, in BC at least, it's no longer treated as such. No more stigma of a criminal conviction. No risk of imprisonment. Just a 90-day driving prohibition, then carry on.
Time to push for a more serious look in that!! I live in BC...
 
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PAINKILLER28

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Maybe in parts of Canada, I can't say.

I agree drunk driving should be a very serious crime in Canada. However, in BC at least, it's no longer treated as such. No more stigma of a criminal conviction. No risk of imprisonment. Just a 90-day driving prohibition, then carry on.
are you sure about that? purely discussing here.

https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/justice/criminal-justice/bcs-criminal-justice-system/reporting-a-crime/what-is-a-crime/crime-examples/impaired-driving#:~:text=Impaired driving is a criminal,consequences for driving while impaired.
 
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I am in shock to see the law not being carried out. (not sure what is the legal term)
I think Kaibigan is looking at historic data and it's not reflecting the crime being persecuted.
 
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It's sometimes the `luck of the draw'!

If the person is stopped at a road block, versus being signled out by a road officer for suspicion of driving impaired, the chances of them getting an IRP (Immediate Roadside Prohibition) seem fairly good. it is the IRP that is a slap on the wrist.
https://bcdrivinglawyers.com/driving-prohibitions/immediate-roadside-prohibitions-irp/
"The laying of Criminal Charges has been virtually eliminated in BC when a driver blows into an ASD. Although the punishment is almost the same and the effect is more stigmatizing, Criminal Charges are now rare in most drinking-driving situations. Immediate Roadside Prohibitions (IRP) are the most common DUIs in BC."
 
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PAINKILLER28

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I am in shock to see the law not being carried out. (not sure what is the legal term)
I think Kaibigan is looking at historic data and it's not reflecting the crime being persecuted.
I work as a paralegal in a law firm in BC, and we deal with DUI cases all the time. I would say that with a BAC of over 170, it is actually drunk driving (intoxicated), and the accused would have a very slim chance of walking away. However, if you get a caught a BAC below 0.08%, the chance of a getting a driving ban only would be much higher.


You can read about it here:

https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/transportation/driving-and-cycling/roadsafetybc/prohibitions/alcohol