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TRV for spouse and dependant

canuck78

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I wonder if the best recourse to this Return Ticket question for Spouse PR applicants, traveling on TRV - should be to buy the ticket online from air canada (one way return) precisely 24 hours before their landing - and cancel it as soon as they pass the immigration.
They will have to show it digitally. That could be problem for some.

Other alternative is to simply wait for COPR - and PPR . But it doesnt make sense. Why was this TRV reunification program started afterall. I guess there is a need for further clarification and fine tuning of this program - atleast on the implementation side.
Many airlines will not allow you to fly without a return ticket so that also Is a factor. The earlier reunification was a change of may get accepted in an already existing program and not a new program so the terms remain the same. It is still unclear what the actual requirements are to get approval for spouses and children and who will get denied. Most people are just including all information possible and hoping for the best.
 

seadrag0n

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Just wanted to confirm one thing, once IRCC issues the TRV and spouse lands in Canada, I read that the open work permit processing for spouse is taking around 5 months, is this correct?
 

armoured

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Just wanted to confirm one thing, once IRCC issues the TRV and spouse lands in Canada, I read that the open work permit processing for spouse is taking around 5 months, is this correct?
Truth is, noone knows. But you should be realistic that it might take quite some time.
 

Ekemini Kingz

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For my application I gave them 4 months bank statement, employment letter, pay stubs and paid student loans.
I don't think there is a certain amount, i think they just want to see you are financially stable and are able to provide the basic needs for your spouse.
@Mystogan , please for my spouse , he isn’t working, he is doing his PhD, what documents would u suggest I submit ? Thanks
 

seadrag0n

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Truth is, noone knows. But you should be realistic that it might take quite some time.
I have read many posts in FB groups where they said it is taking around 5 to 6 months for the work permit to arrive and the official processing time on IRCC's website says 147 days which is about 5 months.

This situation applies to spouses of permanent residents only, if you are a temporary resident on a study or work permit, your spouse can directly apply for a work permit from outside of Canada and come here on a work permit but for spouses of permanent residents, they have to come here as visitor first, sit jobless for 5 to 6 months waiting for the work permit and then spend more time jobless until they find one.

This new TRV policy is completely useless for spouses who have a full time job back home. Does IRCC really expect spouses to sit jobless for up to a year until they do their stupid processing? Why can't they simply give the work permit like they have always done for spouses of temporary residents? I don't know who makes such brain-dead decisions at IRCC.

Just ranting a little bit. At first, I was excited about this TRV announcement, but this long work permit processing time makes applying for TRV not worth it at all for working spouses. The big gap in work experience will be difficult to explain to any new employer and some Canadian employers are very stringent about these big gaps in work experience.
 

YVR123

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I have read many posts in FB groups where they said it is taking around 5 to 6 months for the work permit to arrive and the official processing time on IRCC's website says 147 days which is about 5 months.

This situation applies to spouses of permanent residents only, if you are a temporary resident on a study or work permit, your spouse can directly apply for a work permit from outside of Canada and come here on a work permit but for spouses of permanent residents, they have to come here as visitor first, sit jobless for 5 to 6 months waiting for the work permit and then spend more time jobless until they find one.

This new TRV policy is completely useless for spouses who have a full time job back home. Does IRCC really expect spouses to sit jobless for up to a year until they do their stupid processing? Why can't they simply give the work permit like they have always done for spouses of temporary residents? I don't know who makes such brain-dead decisions at IRCC.

Just ranting a little bit. At first, I was excited about this TRV announcement, but this long work permit processing time makes applying for TRV not worth it at all for working spouses. The big gap in work experience will be difficult to explain to any new employer and some Canadian employers are very stringent about these big gaps in work experience.
the 5 month trend was for the inland sponsorship application. The new TRV policy JUST started and we do not have the data of how much time these spouses will get the OWP after entering with TRV.
 
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armoured

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I have read many posts in FB groups where they said it is taking around 5 to 6 months for the work permit to arrive and the official processing time on IRCC's website says 147 days which is about 5 months.
As another @YVR123 noted - this policy was only announced in May, there are still very few cases where we could say that applicants who have received TRV have actually received it under the new policy (and not just the regular TRV) - so truth is we don't really know. Therefore FAR too early to say it will take 5-6 months.

I think you are right to surmise that it probably won't be any faster - and that's why I said best to be realistic that it will take some time.

On the other hand, the govt (under this minister anyway, although maybe was changed in cabinet shuffle today? idk) has moved faster than I'd have expected, so maybe they'll fix this too.
 

seadrag0n

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the 5 month trend was for the inland sponsorship application. The new TRV policy JUST started and we do not have the data of how much time these spouses will get the OWP after entering with TRV.
That's what I am saying, IRCC has not made any changes to its OWP policy at all. Even before this TRV announcement, some spouses of permanent residents were getting approved for TRV (especially if they were from countries where only eTA is required to enter Canada) and they had to sit jobless for 5 to 6 months until their OWP was processed because they were on "visitor" status. This has not changed after this new TRV policy announcement, they are just approving more TRV applications for spouses of permanent residents than before and allowing "Family Class" sponsorship applicants to apply for OWP from inside Canada, processing time is still the same.

If you are a temporary resident, your spouse can directly apply for an outland OWP but if you are a permanent resident, your spouse cannot apply for an outland OWP which is the point I am making. If IRCC allows spouses of permanent residents to apply for an outland OWP, they can atleast keep working back home until the work permit is processed instead of sitting jobless inside Canada.

I thought with the new policy announcement, IRCC will give the OWP after a few days of landing but that is not the case, they have not made any policy changes regarding the OWP.
 

seadrag0n

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As another @YVR123 noted - this policy was only announced in May, there are still very few cases where we could say that applicants who have received TRV have actually received it under the new policy (and not just the regular TRV) - so truth is we don't really know. Therefore FAR too early to say it will take 5-6 months.

I think you are right to surmise that it probably won't be any faster - and that's why I said best to be realistic that it will take some time.

On the other hand, the govt (under this minister anyway, although maybe was changed in cabinet shuffle today? idk) has moved faster than I'd have expected, so maybe they'll fix this too.
There was no announcement regarding changes to OWP applications for spouses of permanent residents so this new TRV policy is totally pointless.
 

armoured

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There was no announcement regarding changes to OWP applications for spouses of permanent residents so this new TRV policy is totally pointless.
It's not at all pointless - it gives a path to TRVs for some at least previously denied, and at least the possiblity of an OWP for outland applicants who weren't eligible at all for them before. Perfect? No. But not pointless.
 
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seadrag0n

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It's not at all pointless - it gives a path to TRVs for some at least previously denied, and at least the possiblity of an OWP for outland applicants who weren't eligible at all for them before. Perfect? No. But not pointless.
It's perfect for spouses who don't work or don't plan to work after coming here, best of luck to them surviving in Canada on a single person's salary. But not everyone is in this situation right? Maybe some people will take emotional decisions, apply for this TRV and are okay sitting jobless for a long time which is their personal choice but I cannot state enough how badly this gap in work experience will impact their job prospects. From my personal experience as new immigrant, Canadian employers are very stingy and they don't care if the person applying is a citizen, permanent resident or on a work permit, if they see a big gap in your resume, maybe they will just ignore you, I definitely would not want to take that risk just for some stupid visa.

Also, during the announcement, the minister was boasting how this policy will help address the labour shortage but in reality, IRCC didn't do much to address that. They should have taken all of these things into account before making the announcement but IRCC keeps on living in their own bubble.
 

Ad78

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Please did anyone apply TRV for spouse who isn’t working?
what documents do I need to submit?
Thank you?
I applied for my wife, who is not working and has zero ties to our home country in the form of property, bank account, business, studies etc. She is just a vanilla housewife. Not only that, we had no "proof" of our marriage other than our marriage certificate (zero wedding photos, no text chat history etc.). We got PPR yesterday.

As for what documents to submit: I applied through the GC Key account and we just uploaded the documents that were required as per the document holder fields on the website. It is going to be different for different people based on the way they answer the questions that are posed when you click on "Apply to come to Canada" (or something along those lines) on the GC Key page. Let me stress that this applies to the GC Key page; I haven't used the other website and can't say anything about it. I had a different list of required documents generated on the website when I applied for my mom's TRV and a different list for my wife and kids.
 
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armoured

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It's perfect for spouses who don't work or don't plan to work after coming here, best of luck to them surviving in Canada on a single person's salary. But not everyone is in this situation right?
Yes, not everyone is in the situation that you and your spouse are in. For some it is a big improvement - which means it is NOT useless. It is unfortunate that it's not better.

But as with everything with immigration: mustn't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. Next step - now for the next minister, I guess - is for them to move to speed up the OWP issuance. Because you are right, that the 5-6 month delay is too long and does limit how much benefit the policy can have for the labour market, the economy, and for number of families for whom the improved TRV policy helps.

I don't know the issues there, it's possible it requires changes to be made at other ministries and departments, like the one that issues SIN#s (economic devt or whatever it's called), and hence taking longer. Don't know.