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It's just frustration with IRCC throwing older applications in the trash for a long time with no communication whatsoever. Newer PNP applications are being finalized in 3-4 months now and many 2 years old applications are still pending. Backlog is getting cleared but not fast enough otherwise, we would have seen big draws instead of small ones with ridiculously high cut-offs.
The primary job of the IRCC, which is a government agency, is to process applications. And it's a paid service for the most part including PR application processing. So, they absolutely owe the applicants who've paid them money a timely response/decision.
I do see the rationale for would-be applicants though.
I'm not saying it's right. I know how close I came to getting caught in that mess, I'm not so oblivious that i don't empathize with the plight of people. There were legitimate reasons related to covid that affected delays, but it also became a blanket excuse for things not being done on time as well.
But it takes resources to clear backlogs and it also takes time. You guys are not the only ones suffering, everyday there are news reports here on backlogs related to passport issuances as well, and these are actual Canadian people, who are taxpayers and are also stuck in the system.
I have a friend whose citizenship application has been in process for more than 2 years.
They need to do better, but it's better than countries like Australia which basically stopped all immigration throughout the pandemic. They could have easily used covid as an excuse to stop processing or even cancel applications.
You guys have to get this through your heads, just because you pay whatever paltry sum as your processing fee doesn't mean you get to dictate or demand anything.
IRCC is accountable to the government, voted by Canadian taxpayers. Tomorrow they want to refund all your processing fees and dump your applications, they can do that as long as they have a mandate to do so. Ask all the paper applicants before express entry was introduced what happened to their applications, when they all got canceled and got their fees refunded.
I empathize but this is what Mark Holthe was saying, in the actual, legal context, IRCC does not owe you anything.
Ethically, do they owe you a timely response? Sure, no one would dispute that. But it's understanding the difference between an ethical guiding principle with the facts of the matter.
No country puts itself in a position where it needs to be accountable to applicants when it comes to its immigration programs and policies.
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This comes under the concept of the legal system of checks and balances. But this relates to whether IRCC is conducting its functions properly according to the guidelines set for it. So it relates to aspects such as are they processing an application as governed by the rules and regulations which stem from legislation? If not, then they have a mandate to intervene.
However, that does not include processing times. 6 months is an objective not an absolute right.
There's nothing in the legislation which says they have to process your application within a given time limit. On a case to case basis, you can probably argue that your processing time is unreasonable, but then you have to demonstrate that your application is singularly an exception, and not part of a larger issue like a backlog which is affecting everyone.
I watched that live stream of Mark Holthe, he made that comment for people who were waiting in the pool and complaining that they spent money on IELTS and ECA so IRCC must do FSW draws lol
Yeah, if that doesn't signify entitlement, i don't know what does.
Even though i think now, all program draws should be the standard, because everyone deserves the same chance.
For the benefit of anyone facing a similar issue.
Got back passport with visa and CoPR documents on July 21, 2022.
Spoke to IRCC agent over phone after receiving the passport without the visa who confirmed that the application is almost approved and that there was an administrative issue that caused the mishap. Received a new PPR request the next day.
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Depends on what you like. You can start with 'easy french'. 'french with alexa' is decent for grammar stuff, but I never used it. InnerFrench is often recommended for people learning.
Oh and Thomas Gautier is the only Candian french speaker whose accent doesn't make me want to staple my ears shut.
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I remember you mentioning that you speak French. You do know that next year there is a very good chance that they will create a category for French speakers too. I’m in the same situation as I don’t really have a plan B but I’m trying to be optimistic. I know this prospect is depressing as hell but I guess there is still some hope for us French speakers who learned a completely new language from scratch to appease IRCC.
Also, IRCC said that they will start drawing under the new system from the first quarter in 2023. So potentially have the entire month of January too, even if there are CEC draws.
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They'll probably be NOC specific. I don't believe in hope or whatever. Get a plan B. If you're basing your future on what IRCC does, you're in for only disappointment.