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[Jennyababy]

@ElvisRamaj @mushymush
Do u guys know any good youtube channel for French?

use www.duolingo.com

 

[ashu2111]

They'll probably be NOC specific. I don't believe in hope or whatever. Get a plan B. If you're basing your future on what IRCC does, you're in for only disappointment.

But Sean Fraser did say that they’ll target people with specific language skills and that was even confirmed by his spokesman. Can that change? Certainly! But there is still reason for a tad bit of hope. Of course, you never know with immigration laws, but one can try.

 

[ImpatientDragon]

But Sean Fraser did say that they’ll target people with specific language skills and that was even confirmed by his spokesman. Can that change? Certainly! But there is still reason for a tad bit of hope. Of course, you never know with immigration laws, but one can try.

As they say - "Hope dies last"

 

[Deleted member 1006777]

As they say - "Hope dies last"

Imagine trusting anything sean fraser says lmao

 

[ImpatientDragon]

Imagine trusting anything sean fraser says lmao

Definitely.

 

[ashu2111]

Imagine trusting anything sean fraser says lmao

Well I am fully accepting that immigration laws can change but I am still trying to be a little optimistic even though I know that nothing is in my hands. I guess it's the matter of different point of views.

 

[Deleted member 1006777]

Well I am fully accepting that immigration laws can change but I am still trying to be a little optimistic even though I know that nothing is in my hands. I guess it's the matter of different point of views.

Nothing wrong with optimism. But if you don't have a plan B and you're purely relying on Fraser or some other slimy weasel's words to determine your entire future, you're going to have a tough time.

The best time to develop a solid plan B was yesterday. The next best time is right now. I would sure like to move to Canada, my entire network lives in North America after all. But if I never end up getting an ITA, I don't particularly care either. I wasted 4 years of my life on that country, and I won't be making that same mistake again.

 

[armitabbsn]

Depends on what you like. You can start with 'easy french'. 'french with alexa' is decent for grammar stuff, but I never used it. InnerFrench is often recommended for people learning.

Oh and Thomas Gautier is the only Candian french speaker whose accent doesn't make me want to staple my ears shut.

Thank u !
I have quit my job to study french
Its a family business so I can get back whenever
Currently Im A2 (I had studies for 6-7months last year)
Hopefully I can get b2 ( or b2 plus later) in TEF till November.
Im taking private classes too

 

[Deleted member 1006777]

Thank u !
I have quit my job to study french
Its a family business so I can get back whenever
Currently Im A2 (I had studies for 6-7months last year)
Hopefully I can get b2 ( or b2 plus later) in TEF till November.
Im taking private classes too

It's a short time. All I can say is the jump from B1 to B2 is pretty huge. Dont get discouraged, because there will be weeks where you feel it's a waste of time.

Some tips:
1. Look up Lingoda Sprint. Upfront $1000 cost, but if you attend 90 days of classes without missing a single one, you get a 100% refund. It was a good way for me to force myself to do a little bit of french every day
2. Private lessons are good. Download Tandem and try to find language partners. It's quite difficult to actually find a reliable language partner, but it'll be worth it if you do.
3. Put in at least 3-4 hours a day. That's the minimum imo. You said you're quitting your job, so you can potentially put in a lot more.
4. Start exam specific study at least 2 months in advance. you don't need to be at a B2 level to get a B2 score in the exam. If you know how the exam is structured and the format, you'll score above your true level.
5. Make sure you book your exam early. Slots are often limited. I missed out on a November exam which caused me to miss the December ITA in 2020. Now it's 1.5 years later and I still don't have an ITA. A 4-5 day delay in booking my exam has cost me 1.5 years. Think about that.

I've said this a few times, but the process to get a B2 in TEF is VERY simple. Not easy. Simple. Put in the time, and follow your lessons.

 

[Vidnomenon]

For the benefit of anyone facing a similar issue.

Got back passport with visa and CoPR documents on July 21, 2022.

Spoke to IRCC agent over phone after receiving the passport without the visa who confirmed that the application is almost approved and that there was an administrative issue that caused the mishap. Received a new PPR request the next day.

Good to hear.

I also got PPR on the 20th of June and I wondered about the odds of this happening with my passport. Counterfoil has been generated but I haven't gotten the passport back yet.

 

[SatNight]

Thank u !
I have quit my job to study french
Its a family business so I can get back whenever
Currently Im A2 (I had studies for 6-7months last year)
Hopefully I can get b2 ( or b2 plus later) in TEF till November.
Im taking private classes too

Would TCF be an option? It is an easier test, and it does not have B2 inferior. A B2 is a B2.

 

[SatNight]

But Sean Fraser did say that they’ll target people with specific language skills and that was even confirmed by his spokesman. Can that change? Certainly! But there is still reason for a tad bit of hope. Of course, you never know with immigration laws, but one can try.

He did say that, yes. Which can mean different things, as evidenced by recent OINP draws. One meaning (which we all prefer): "the only requirement is to have French skills". Another meaning (which happened at the latest OINP French draw) is: "NOC specific, but for people who also speak French". Which basically meant a glorified NOC specific draw, where your French skills helped you get selected with a lower score in your NOC, but that's all.

So yeah, it's not making me really enthusiastic for category draws, even though we have French. I sure hope that at least some French draws will be "French only" as a requirement. But if they can combine criteria (NOC+language) or any other criteria (NOC+ years of experience+ language+ blood type) then having French skills doesn't mean much.

 

[armitabbsn]

It's a short time. All I can say is the jump from B1 to B2 is pretty huge. Dont get discouraged, because there will be weeks where you feel it's a waste of time.

Some tips:
1. Look up Lingoda Sprint. Upfront $1000 cost, but if you attend 90 days of classes without missing a single one, you get a 100% refund. It was a good way for me to force myself to do a little bit of french every day
2. Private lessons are good. Download Tandem and try to find language partners. It's quite difficult to actually find a reliable language partner, but it'll be worth it if you do.
3. Put in at least 3-4 hours a day. That's the minimum imo. You said you're quitting your job, so you can potentially put in a lot more.
4. Start exam specific study at least 2 months in advance. you don't need to be at a B2 level to get a B2 score in the exam. If you know how the exam is structured and the format, you'll score above your true level.
5. Make sure you book your exam early. Slots are often limited. I missed out on a November exam which caused me to miss the December ITA in 2020. Now it's 1.5 years later and I still don't have an ITA. A 4-5 day delay in booking my exam has cost me 1.5 years. Think about that.

I've said this a few times, but the process to get a B2 in TEF is VERY simple. Not easy. Simple. Put in the time, and follow your lessons.

Thanksss for ur tips!
I will definitely register for the exam soon/ I missed the last draw back in Dec 2020 for tie breaking rule(we had 468) , and for getting my husband ielts results late due to covid (2days after the 468 crs draw, we got to 474), so yea it still hurts

Im planning to put at least 7-8hours studying per day
A b2 will get me to 487( which might be better than my current score479) , but everyone keeps telling me a « b2 plus »
in next 4months ,from a2, is hardly achievable
I have also heard from many that for taking TEF its more important to know specific methods and have a good practice on question samples, and as u said , u dont need to be a real « B2 plus » to get this score in the exam

 

[armitabbsn]

Would TCF be an option? It is an easier test, and it does not have B2 inferior. A B2 is a B2.

I have heard the Speaking section in TCF is harder than TEF

 

[SatNight]

I have heard the Speaking section in TCF is harder than TEF

My wife's reply (she's the one who took French): It is not. They are about the same difficulty, but reading and writing on TEF are much harder than TCF. The only section of TCF that might be a bit harder than TEF is listening, because you can hear the audio clip only once.

As for TCF speaking, it depends on your strengths. To me, roleplaying and convincing the examinateur was difficult, especially since you need to reply to their arguments and follow what they say. Both TEF speaking tasks are roleplaying, while only one on TCF. TCF has three speaking tasks, but the first one is always the same - present yourself. You can practice for that one. The second question (roleplay) is similar to the first TEF question. The third question is to talk about a topic without interruption, and perhaps this is the one people are scared of, but second TEF roleplay is also scary for some people (it was for me). So it's about the same. If you are going for B2, you don't need to be perfect. I made some errors and hesitated in the third question and didn't do great, but I still got B2 (and maximum points for B2, so level 8 and not 7).

My advice for everyone is to try TCF. It is simply an easier test, and it doesn't have the unpredictable writing task 1 (fait divers) which can mess up your whole score. Of course, there are people who don't have issues with TEF. It's not impossible to score well. But the fact that TCF doesn't have B2 inferior, and that at least two components of the test are much easier than TEF, made me decide to focus solely on TCF. It might also be the best course of action for someone else. (I never attempted TEF because I passed TCF on first try, but I don't regret my decision to go for TCF).