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November 2021 - Citizenship applications

saou17

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Thank you for all the information provided!
My husband is actually going to Canada for work this summer to reach the 1095 days and then apply for citizenship. He couldn't delay the move date and still needs 30 more days that will get this summer in order to apply for citizenship.

The only thing that I believe you are wrong is that if I get citizenship before the future baby is born I can pass it to the baby. Citizens by naturalization are considered first generation even if born outside of Canada.

I hadn't considered that going through the PR route might not be possible because of the 1095 requirement even for newborns (given that we don't live in Canada so who knows when we'll be able to spend 3 years there).

We are aiming to have the baby in about a year so hopefully my citizenship application moves faster than that. And I cannot give birth in Canada because I don't have the money for the hospital bill and lost my right to healthcare when I moved.

Thank you again, I really appreciate your reply. You gave me a new point of view on my dilemma :)
You are right, I just checked the citizenship act, and in fact, yes immigrants to Canada who obtain citizenship by way of grant can give citizenship to their children if the latter are born abroad. The thing that complicates the matter is the fact that these children are considered 2nd generation. Thus they can't pass citizenship to their offspring because of the April 17, 2009 Amendement that I shared earlier. Offspring (aka your grand children if born abroad, unless they have a 1st generation Canadian parent) need to be born in Canada to acquire rights of citizenship by birth. Your son who will be born outside of Canada will be 2nd generation Canadian and therefore can't pass the citizenship to his children if his/her spouse is not first generation Canadian. here is what I found on the Gov of Canada website:

https://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=365&top=5

I’m Canadian, but my child was born outside Canada. Are they Canadian?
Your child is likely a Canadian citizen if at least 1 parent (legal parent at birth [opens in a new tab] or biological parent)
  • was born in Canada, or
  • became a naturalized Canadian citizen before the child was born
To find out for sure, apply for a citizenship certificate for your child.
Your child is not automatically a Canadian citizen if they’re an adopted child born outside Canada.

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Now, for my misunderstanding, and for some reason I thought that immigrants (naturalized citizens) were not considered 1st generation but you are right, if we acquire citizenship, then we are considered 1st generation citizens. I hope they don't change the definition in the future. Again it's best to double check with an immigration lawyer as the laws and legislations and definitions keep changing (it was the government of Harper who legislated this amendement to limit citizenship by descent). But for now, I believe you are right, based on what I read on the Citizenship act, if your child is born after you acquire your citizenship or after his dad acquires it (whichever comes first), child can get the citizenship:

https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/c-29/fulltext.html

PART IThe Right to Citizenship
persons who are citizens

  • 3(1) Subject to this Act, a person is a citizen if
    • (a) the person was born in Canada after February 14, 1977;
    • (b) the person was born outside Canada after February 14, 1977 and at the time of his birth one of his parents, other than a parent who adopted him, was a citizen;
    • (c) the person has been granted or acquired citizenship pursuant to section 5 or 11 and, in the case of a person who is fourteen years of age or over on the day that he is granted citizenship, he has taken the oath of citizenship;

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Classification of Generation Status: https://www23.statcan.gc.ca/imdb/p3VD.pl?Function=getVD&TVD=117200&CVD=117200&CLV=0&MLV=1&D=1
1 - First generation
This category includes persons who were born outside Canada. For the most part, these are people who are now, or once were, immigrants to Canada.

2 - Second generation
This category includes persons who were born in Canada and had at least one parent born outside Canada. For the most part, these are the children of immigrants.

3 - Third generation or more
This category includes persons who were born in Canada with both parents born in Canada.
 
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americanidiot

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Update: All moved to completed!!! June 23,2022!!!

Type: Online application
Location: Winnipeg
Being processed by: Vancouver
Physical Presence Days: 1,123
Application: Single
Application submitted: November 8, 2021
Delivered: November 8, 2021
AOR: Nov 16, 2021
Background completed: April 1, 2022
Test Invitation: April 22,2022
Test: April 30, 2022
Score: 19/20
DM/Prohibitions, Physical Presence and Language Skills all completed: June 23,2022
Did I read this right? You were an online application but you got an AOR in a week?
 
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phoenix232

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Hi, Do we need to enter the address for hotel/airbnb under Address/Residence section during the vacation outside Canada? What if exact airbnb/hotel address is lost and do not remember? Kindly suggest. Thanks

https://ibb.co/QmZc9fX
Not required, just the country in physical presence calculator and if there was onward journey then also write that in the next box .. Mentioning address is not required.
 

saou17

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Application for Canadian Citizenship: Minors – Subsection 5(1)
Features
Applications received at our Case Processing Centre (CPC) in Sydney, NS on March 1, 2021 or later must use forms from October 2020 or later (indicated on the lower left corner of the form). Application forms that are not up-to-date will be returned as incomplete. IRCC does not consider the date of signatures or mailing to be deciding factors.

Eligibility
This form for an application under subsection 5(1) is intended for minors (under 18 years) that are permanent residents who want to apply for Canadian citizenship.
  • This application must be made by a person who has custody of the minor or who is empowered to act on their behalf by virtue of a court order or written agreement or by operation of law. The authorized person applying on behalf of the minor does not have to be a Canadian citizen.
  • Minors who do not have an authorized person to apply on their behalf can request a waiver of this requirement on the application form. If you request a waiver, we will ask for more information.
To be eligible for Canadian citizenship, the minor:
  • must be under 18 years of age on the day you sign the application
  • must be a permanent resident (landed immigrant) of Canada
  • must have been physically present in Canada for at least 1,095 days in the 5 years immediately before you apply
  • may need to file personal income taxes for at least 3 years within the 5-year period, if required under the Income Tax Act
  • can’t already have a Canadian parent
  • can’t have any unfulfilled conditions relating to their permanent resident status
  • can’t be under a removal order (asked by Canadian officials to leave Canada)
  • can’t be inadmissible or prohibited on criminal or security grounds
Use this tool to check if you’re eligible to apply
If you are not sure whether you have Canadian citizenship or not, see if you may already be a citizen.
Application package
The application package includes an instruction guide and all the forms you need to fill out.
The application package includes:
  1. Instruction guide
  2. Application for Canadian Citizenship – Minors (under 18 years of age) applying under subsection 5(1) [Form CIT 0403] (PDF, 2.22MB)
  3. Document Checklist [Form CIT 0560] (PDF, 761.51KB)
  4. Citizenship Photo Specifications
Optional:
  1. Residence Outside Canada [Form CIT 0177] (PDF, 667.46 KB)
  2. Use of a Representative [Form IMM 5476] (PDF, 648.31 KB)
  3. Request to Correct a Date of Birth for Citizenship [Form CIT 0464] (PDF, 1.15 MB)
  4. Request form for a Change of Sex or Gender Identifier [IRM 0002] (PDF, 1.79 MB)
Prepare a complete application
To make sure you submit all the pages of the application form with your application package, follow these steps:
  1. Click the “Validate” button at the top or bottom of the form.
    Note: Validating the form before printing makes sure that you have answered all the questions. This will help you to avoid delays in processing your application.
  2. A last page with barcodes will automatically be created.
  3. Print and sign the form.
    Note: For best results print on white, bond-quality, non-glossy paper using a laser printer.
  4. Place the barcode page on top of your package. If you have more than one package, place a separate barcode page on each one.
Find out more about the barcode form.
Get help to open an application form or to fill one out in the Help Centre.
Travel journal
Record your trips outside Canada. It will help you calculate your physical presence in Canada.
 

saou17

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hello friends
Can anyone tell me if the test can be done at any hour/time within the dates window they provided? Any advise or warning of any hour not recommended for taking the test and if there is any best time to take it within the day?
Thanks in advance
As far as I read in other platforms (Facebook groups where applicants post tips and updates about their apps processing), there was no pitfalls or specific hours (apparently the test can be taken anytime of the day). However, several of those who posted have mentioned technical issues having to do with uploading their ID or pictures, as well as the fact that their computer cameras were blurry and they had to redo the test because of that. I recommend you take the test in broad day light, in a quiet room that is very well lit with enough light so your pictures and face will show well. Also here is an explanation on how to take the online test:
https://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=1595&top=5
 
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Shamon

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Hi All,
My wife and I have done our test in Dec and got its status as completed in Jan. At that time it was just the Background check and test was "Completed".
But today I just notice that my wife Background status changed to "In progress" again. I wonder if it does anything? Why did they get it status back to in progress I wonder?
 

degm

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I understand you are frustrated but mind your language .. took me an year to get oath and you'll get it too. Have patience.
I took the foul language as a joke, but asking for patience when other people's files are moving faster is not very empathic. Like, not only we have to witness other people move unfairly faster, but we also have to sit quiet and look pretty? :)
 

MTLresident

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Hi there, i submitted my application on november 14th 2021 and got AOR on February 8th, but so far application shows in progress and there is no update. Is this normal?
 

phoenix232

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I took the foul language as a joke, but asking for patience when other people's files are moving faster is not very empathic. Like, not only we have to witness other people move unfairly faster, but we also have to sit quiet and look pretty? :)
In an year of processing I started getting actual updates in March 2022 and all completed in last 3 months. before that it was all dead silence from July 2021. You ask for being empathic, I won't - been only what 6-7 months for you.. I show empathy towards 2018 / 2019 / 2020 applicants who have been waiting since for an update.

Cuss at people or me all you want ( even as a joke ) but you'll get an update when you get an update . ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
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degm

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In an year of processing I started getting actual updates in March 2022 and all completed in last 3 months. before that it was all dead silence from July 2021. You ask for being empathic, I won't - been only what 6-7 months for you.. I show empathy towards 2018 / 2019 / 2020 applicants who have been waiting since for an update.

Cuss at people or me all you want ( even as a joke ) but you'll get an update when you get an update . ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You fail to understand that it's not a thing about timing, but a thing about fairness. In any case, congratulations on getting approved! I'm not sure why you're here discussing with strangers on such a non-issue when you're all set lol.
 
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mohoozee

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You fail to understand that it's not a thing about timing, but a thing about fairness. In any case, congratulations on getting approved! I'm not sure why you're here discussing with strangers on such a non-issue when you're all set lol.
I think you need to calm down a bit. The first thing every adult learns is life isn't fair and your claim to fairness is dubious at best otherwise how can you demand your 6-7 months old application be processed when there are applicants from 2018/2019 still waiting in line.

Also, if everyone deactivates their account after getting their citizenship without helping others still navigating the process that would undermine the entire purpose of this forum.

Everyone that has undergone the myriads of IRCC immigration processes (PR, Spousal Sponsorship, WP, Citizenship) knows how frustrating it can be and that is why people preach patience because there is not much recourse otherwise.

Good luck and hope you get some news soon.
 
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