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ElvisRamaj

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That is wrong though.

As I told you, you have to look at the rate of processing, NOT the absolute number of applications processed.

Dude did you not take elementary level mathematics? How do you measure progress? It is the proportion of applications processed in a given amount of time.

If a program has just 500 applications in backlog it will not process 2000 applications, but that does NOT mean it is slowed down.

I don't know why I am even bothering anymore, I'm arguing with someone who doesn't know elementary school maths...
Sure buddy ! As you say.
 

KENNY0861

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Hello everyone, thank you for reading my question and sorry for posting it here. I have a question and really need your help for this about adding work experience that I did not declare on my study permit and PGWP to my Express Entry profile. Not sure if this would cause misrepresentation. Hope you can give me some advice.
To summarize, I have added a timeline to better explain my case:
  • Apr 01, 2018 - Applied for study visa in my home country
  • Apr 04, 2018 - found a contract job for 3 months (to earn some extra cash obviously)
  • April 20, 2018 - study visa approved
  • July 10, 2018 - ended contract job
  • August 20, 2018 came to Canada
My concern is whether adding this job would cause misrepresentation??? I obviously did not try to hide this experience whatoever on my study visa application because I had not earned the experience yet when I submitted my application. However, I did not declare that on my PGWP application. I was afraid to have job discripency between study visa and pgwp so I entered the same work history on my PGWP application like my study visa, plus the international student advisor at my university said PGWP approval is based on CAD education and it is not material to affect the IRCC officer decision so it does not matter to add the experience or not. Therefore, I did not add this experience on my PGWP.

Can you guys give me some advice on this matter? is it a serious issue?
 

moscatojuices

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Feb 21, 2022
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Hello everyone, thank you for reading my question and sorry for posting it here. I have a question and really need your help for this about adding work experience that I did not declare on my study permit and PGWP to my Express Entry profile. Not sure if this would cause misrepresentation. Hope you can give me some advice.
To summarize, I have added a timeline to better explain my case:
  • Apr 01, 2018 - Applied for study visa in my home country
  • Apr 04, 2018 - found a contract job for 3 months (to earn some extra cash obviously)
  • April 20, 2018 - study visa approved
  • July 10, 2018 - ended contract job
  • August 20, 2018 came to Canada
My concern is whether adding this job would cause misrepresentation??? I obviously did not try to hide this experience whatoever on my study visa application because I had not earned the experience yet when I submitted my application. However, I did not declare that on my PGWP application. I was afraid to have job discripency between study visa and pgwp so I entered the same work history on my PGWP application like my study visa, plus the international student advisor at my university said PGWP approval is based on CAD education and it is not material to affect the IRCC officer decision so it does not matter to add the experience or not. Therefore, I did not add this experience on my PGWP.

Can you guys give me some advice on this matter? is it a serious issue?
This is not the right thread for this.
 

moscatojuices

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Feb 21, 2022
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Further to what I said about the possibility of skills specific draws, Minister Fraser today said:

“I’m very excited about new flexibilities we’re going to be pursuing in the Express Entry system which will allow us, with more precision, to target workers to fill gaps in key sectors as soon as possible under the current system,” Fraser said before being cut off due to a shortage of time. The minister did not elaborate further throughout the rest of the meeting."

- https://www.cicnews.com/2022/05/minister-fraser-says-processing-standards-could-return-to-normal-by-2023-0525349.html#gs.0jeu9z
 

aommnd

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“I’m very excited about new flexibilities we’re going to be pursuing in the Express Entry system which will allow us, with more precision, to target workers to fill gaps in key sectors as soon as possible under the current system,” Fraser said before being cut off due to a shortage of time. The minister did not elaborate further throughout the rest of the meeting."
Is this different from CEC? Or will they include certain sectors in CEC?
I wonder if it will take place July or not
 

powerssdd

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Further to what I said about the possibility of skills specific draws, Minister Fraser today said:

“I’m very excited about new flexibilities we’re going to be pursuing in the Express Entry system which will allow us, with more precision, to target workers to fill gaps in key sectors as soon as possible under the current system,” Fraser said before being cut off due to a shortage of time. The minister did not elaborate further throughout the rest of the meeting."

- https://www.cicnews.com/2022/05/minister-fraser-says-processing-standards-could-return-to-normal-by-2023-0525349.html#gs.0jeu9z
Hard to say if it is good news.

The mandate letter requires new pathways for TR and international students as a whole, meaning 100% of them will be eligible, but now this skills specific draws would narrow down the range, because only TR and students who work in certain industries will be eligible.

How do we know if our job is among these in-demand ones?

On the other hand, it makes the chance for CEC-specific draws thinner.

I would consider it bad news.
 

aommnd

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Apr 6, 2022
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Hard to say if it is good news.

The mandate letter requires new pathways for TR and international students as a whole, meaning 100% of them will be eligible, but now this skills specific draws would narrow down the range, because only TR and students who work in certain industries will be eligible.

How do we know if our job is among these in-demand ones?

On the other hand, it makes the chance for CEC-specific draws thinner.

I would consider it bad news.
I hope they consider IT in demand lol
 

SatNight

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Dec 2, 2017
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I dislike how unclear this is. Not sure if they are to continue with CEC only draws (why would they?) but I wonder if the wjole NOC specific thing will be introduced straight away, and if it will ne different for CEC.

And yes, I wonder about the CRS score needed to get in. At the moment, there are over 8000 people above 500 points. It all depends on frequency of draws and numbrr of people invited.
 

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Am curious, can a refugee who lost hearing apply for the July ? Residing in Québec province. Thank you.
No. Refugees are classified as being out of status in Canada. Individuals who are out of status in Canada cannot apply for PR through an economic immigration stream.
 

moscatojuices

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Hard to say if it is good news.

The mandate letter requires new pathways for TR and international students as a whole, meaning 100% of them will be eligible, but now this skills specific draws would narrow down the range, because only TR and students who work in certain industries will be eligible.

How do we know if our job is among these in-demand ones?

On the other hand, it makes the chance for CEC-specific draws thinner.

I would consider it bad news.
Well, whether it's good news or bad news is subjective and in this particular regard, it's:
  • good news if your skills are in demand
  • bad news if your skills aren't in demand
It's pretty obvious to know if your skills are in demand - quick research on Canada's labour market would show you that software, trades, nursing etc. would be in-demand skills but IRCC/ESDC/StatsCan would probably narrow it down into a skills list (Australia does this - if your skills aren't on the list, you're not eligible for migration).

The more I think about it, the more it's going to happen and I'm now thinking that Fraser will actually make some pretty big changes to the way points are awarded under EE system.

No point speculating over the details, I'm sure there's going to be a huge announcement before the first draws in July and a warning about major changes to CRS points grids and introduction of skills-specific draws.
 

SatNight

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Well, whether it's good news or bad news is subjective and in this particular regard, it's:
  • good news if your skills are in demand
  • bad news if your skills aren't in demand
It's pretty obvious to know if your skills are in demand - quick research on Canada's labour market would show you that software, trades, nursing etc. would be in-demand skills but IRCC/ESDC/StatsCan would probably narrow it down into a skills list (Australia does this - if your skills aren't on the list, you're not eligible for migration).

The more I think about it, the more it's going to happen and I'm now thinking that Fraser will actually make some pretty big changes to the way points are awarded under EE system.

No point speculating over the details, I'm sure there's going to be a huge announcement before the first draws in July and a warning about major changes to CRS points grids and introduction of skills-specific draws.

How to know which skills are in demand? I understand that we have to wait for an announcement, but are there any websites listing in-demand skills and occupations?
 

moscatojuices

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How to know which skills are in demand? I understand that we have to wait for an announcement, but are there any websites listing in-demand skills and occupations?
By using the power of Google and looking at government data and thinking about things like what skills the provinces are nominating :).

Those will give a clue, but IRCC will have the final say on any list or NOC codes targeted.

I'm personally glad I got my PNP nomination before these new draws resume. I went form a zero-demand job and transferred my skills to a high-demand job!
 

SatNight

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By using the power of Google and looking at government data and thinking about things like what skills the provinces are nominating :).

Those will give a clue, but IRCC will have the final say on any list or NOC codes targeted.

I'm personally glad I got my PNP nomination before these new draws resume. I went form a zero-demand job and transferred my skills to a high-demand job!
Ok, so you don't know of a specific website or list of in-demand occupations?

I doubt NOC-specific draws, if happen, will be the same as PNP, because why have PNP, then?