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hulk358

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I can't tell you if that will be enough. If you have more evidence to provide, then I would provide it.

I don't know how long it will take.
If i get ban from canada will i be able to go to australia on spousal visa?
Was your degree really fraudulent and how did university gave you the admission if they were fake?
Right the main issue stands here . I mean i studied my a"" off there and they say its fraudulent. How can this happen. Even though i passed background chek got admission and got visa and got passport stamped. Now suddenly they feel only transcript is fraudulent . They didn't even gave me any reason on which bases they state it is fraudulent. I am seriously pissed off with this. And i asked my agent 100 times if he did smthng with the transcript or what . And he sayss no no no . So its like nightmare for me . I got admsn got visa chek got passport stamped and then got this may be inadmissible .
 

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If i get ban from canada will i be able to go to australia on spousal visa?

Right the main issue stands here . I mean i studied my a"" off there and they say its fraudulent. How can this happen. Even though i passed background chek got admission and got visa and got passport stamped. Now suddenly they feel only transcript is fraudulent . They didn't even gave me any reason on which bases they state it is fraudulent. I am seriously pissed off with this. And i asked my agent 100 times if he did smthng with the transcript or what . And he sayss no no no . So its like nightmare for me . I got admsn got visa chek got passport stamped and then got this may be inadmissible .
Did you apply through an agent for the study permit or on your own?
 

Hehee

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If i get ban from canada will i be able to go to australia on spousal visa?

Right the main issue stands here . I mean i studied my a"" off there and they say its fraudulent. How can this happen. Even though i passed background chek got admission and got visa and got passport stamped. Now suddenly they feel only transcript is fraudulent . They didn't even gave me any reason on which bases they state it is fraudulent. I am seriously pissed off with this. And i asked my agent 100 times if he did smthng with the transcript or what . And he sayss no no no . So its like nightmare for me . I got admsn got visa chek got passport stamped and then got this may be inadmissible .
Based on the things you provided you have 3 solutions
1. You can go for a judicial review and sue like say they were genuine and you have prooof and stuff
2. You can hire a lawyer right now to respond to your PFL there are many lawyer who do this stuff pick a good one from Canada not India.
3. Don’t quit you got the passport request they just want to see if the transcript are genuine or not. And please act fast you only have 9 days left you can do this.
 

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Through agent .
OK - so here's my two cents on what has happened. It is just a guess - however this is what makes most sense to me. Your agent has committed fraud in other study permit applications and has submitted fake transcripts for your school for other individuals who he has represented. IRCC has found this fraud. And as a result, they have now canceled the visas of other people who applied through this agent with the same school and are assuming your transcripts are fraudulent too. I think your agent is the problem.

I'm not sure there's much you can do but submit the evidence we have already discussed here to prove your transcripts are real. I would avoid all further use and interactions with this agent.

That's my two cents on what happened.
 

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Through agent .
One more question since you applied through an agent... Do you know for 100% sure that your agent submitted the actual transcript you provided (i.e. the real transcript)? We have seen cases here where an agent substitutes documents in an application without that applicant knowing.
 
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Startup_Visa

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1-right originally i havent apostile the document as I didn't find any necessity.
2-its a deemed well known university ( two of other student is facing same issue with the same university)
3- no i did it in time and submitted it in given time frame
4- by multiple lawyers i mean 3 to 4 lawyers they told me that once you got visa its rate for them to reopen the file . And there isnt much you can do to satisfy them its upto them .if they want to consider your documents valid or not.
5- they just mentioned that specifically transcript have been found fraudulent . I asked my college to give me declaration about in this regard on their latter pad with their stamps .i also submitted that document . And rather than MEA apostille i dnt know how to prove authenticity of the document.
@hulk358

1) Lets be clear "Deemed University" are classified Deemed for a good reason and there have been many cases of fraud degrees/transcripts from Deemed Universities from India.

2) You seem to have gone through an unregistered agent, so there is no clarity on what documents the agent has uploaded. Since they are not registered by IRCC, you can't be sure and there is no recourse.

3) The fact other students from the same university have faced the same problem, shows there is a problem with the credibility of the University.

4) Number of lawyers has no significance, unless you have spoken to any Canadian registered lawyer via a paid consult. And I can't think of any genuine Canadian registered lawyer just saying they can't do much.

5) It's clear IRCC finds issue with your transcripts, IRCC has many independent field consultants who verify the autheticity of documents. So clearly, your transcript has been flagged along with other students. So either your University, or your agent, or you have submitted some suspicious documents. Since your documents were not uploaded by a registered agent infront of you, so even you don't know what was submitted, so it's hard to get to who's fault it is. So you can't say IRCC is at fault as your agent could have submitted a transcript with higher grades than your actual grades.

6) Lastly, like I said before - apotille doesn't solve anything. And you don't even know if the apotille document is the same as your agent has submitted. So hope you see the problem and understand nobody can offer you much help without seeing what you submitted and what you got apotille for.
 

hulk358

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One more question since you applied through an agent... Do you know for 100% sure that your agent submitted the actual transcript you provided (i.e. the real transcript)? We have seen cases here where an agent substitutes documents in an application without that applicant knowing.
As long as i know he didnt morphed any document but me and my friend who applied through same agent are facing this issue one other friend of mine submitted file through other agent and havent had any issue till date . So mostly its something fisshy with the agent .
 

hulk358

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@hulk358

1) Lets be clear "Deemed University" are classified Deemed for a good reason and there have been many cases of fraud degrees/transcripts from Deemed Universities from India.

2) You seem to have gone through an unregistered agent, so there is no clarity on what documents the agent has uploaded. Since they are not registered by IRCC, you can't be sure and there is no recourse.

3) The fact other students from the same university have faced the same problem, shows there is a problem with the credibility of the University.

4) Number of lawyers has no significance, unless you have spoken to any Canadian registered lawyer via a paid consult. And I can't think of any genuine Canadian registered lawyer just saying they can't do much.

5) It's clear IRCC finds issue with your transcripts, IRCC has many independent field consultants who verify the autheticity of documents. So clearly, your transcript has been flagged along with other students. So either your University, or your agent, or you have submitted some suspicious documents. Since your documents were not uploaded by a registered agent infront of you, so even you don't know what was submitted, so it's hard to get to who's fault it is. So you can't say IRCC is at fault as your agent could have submitted a transcript with higher grades than your actual grades.

6) Lastly, like I said before - apotille doesn't solve anything. And you don't even know if the apotille document is the same as your agent has submitted. So hope you see the problem and understand nobody can offer you much help without seeing what you submitted and what you got apotille for.
Thankyou for this reply . Seems fair enough about the agent being a culprit . I have a call assigned today with a canadian lawyer . I will state my problem to him . Let's see what i can get out of it . And about the university credibility othe friend of mine got the visa from may intake from diff agent and havent received any of such complaint .
 

scylla

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As long as i know he didnt morphed any document but me and my friend who applied through same agent are facing this issue one other friend of mine submitted file through other agent and havent had any issue till date . So mostly its something fisshy with the agent .
In that case the agent is definitely the problem. The agent committed fraud which IRCC has caught and you're being impacted because of this.

I would try to find out if the agent committed fraud in your application or whether your visa has been canceled because of fraud the agent committed in other applications. In other words, I would try to find out if the agent submitted your real transcript or if the agent submitted a fake transcript or altered your transcript in any way (e.g. to increase your marks). I don't know if you have a way of finding this out.
 
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hulk358

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In that case the agent is definitely the problem. The agent committed fraud which IRCC has caught and you're being impacted because of this.

I would try to find out if the agent committed fraud in your application or whether your visa has been canceled because of fraud the agent committed in other applications. In other words, I would try to find out if the agent submitted your real transcript or if the agent submitted a fake transcript or altered your transcript in any way (e.g. to increase your marks). I don't know if you have a way of finding this out.
I feel my dream for canada has been broken by him . Dnt knw what to do now . Now only option i have to go in a different country with spousal visa . It feels like end of the road my profile had 7+ band score with good academic score and 2 years of experience . Everythng just wasted by one guy . Even if i find him guilt i wont get anythng out of it . My career has been spoiled. thankyou all of you who have just replied .
 

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I feel my dream for canada has been broken by him . Dnt knw what to do now . Now only option i have to go in a different country with spousal visa . It feels like end of the road my profile had 7+ band score with good academic score and 2 years of experience . Everythng just wasted by one guy . Even if i find him guilt i wont get anythng out of it . My career has been spoiled. thankyou all of you who have just replied .
I agree with others, it seems like your agent is the culprit and has submitted fraudulent documents on your behalf. Problem is that you can't say that my agent did this because it's illegal to use an unauthorized consultant. You were caught after they came across some other case through the same agent, how do they know it's the same agent? by the way of arranging documents I think.

You can order GCMS notes with attachments, it will include all the forms and supporting documents you submitted.

If Canada bans you then your prospects of immigrating to any of the five eyes countries are low.
 
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Startup_Visa

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I feel my dream for canada has been broken by him . Dnt knw what to do now . Now only option i have to go in a different country with spousal visa . It feels like end of the road my profile had 7+ band score with good academic score and 2 years of experience . Everythng just wasted by one guy . Even if i find him guilt i wont get anythng out of it . My career has been spoiled. thankyou all of you who have just replied .
Sorry to say but mistake is yours for hiring an unregisterd agent.
 

Hehee

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Sorry to say but mistake is yours for hiring an unregisterd agent.
Many of the people here are not registered inculding me as well. The thing is with his case like he is not sure if he’s agent made a mistake or ircc was suspicious with his transcript. So it’s confusing as hell.
 

scylla

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Many of the people here are not registered inculding me as well. The thing is with his case like he is not sure if he’s agent made a mistake or ircc was suspicious with his transcript. So it’s confusing as hell.
The agent didn't make a mistake. The agent committed intentional fraud. A mistake is someone that happens on one application due to error. Here we already know that are multiple applications impacted and that it has something to do with fake/modified transcripts. That's intentional fraud. We see IRCC do sweeps like this once in a while when they identify problematic agents who are committing fraud. They don't cancel approved visas when there is a single mistake. OP has already said he is not the only person impacted. So this is something bigger.

The only question now is whether the agent committed that fraud on the OPs application specifically or whether the OP is under review due to fraud in other applications belonging to the same agent (but the OP's application is OK).

I agree with the earlier comment regarding there being very little recourse when problems like this happen with unregistered agents. If there was in fact fraud committed by the agent in the OPs application, the OP will be held responsible.