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Would this SPEED UP my application if I send it?

roadToCa

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I request your feedback on my case.. I am being sponsored by my husband who is a canadian citizen using OUTLAND application (though I currently live in Canada). My visa office is in an Asian country..

A potential employer wants to offer me a position but it is conditional on me having PR by early next year.. I spoke with an immig. consultant and he said that if I get a letter from them addressed to the visa office explaining these details, this will definitely speed up my app.. He also suggested he will send that letter with a cover letter (after I assign him as representtative)..

my questtions:
1- Would sending this letter really speed up the app?
2- Is assigning a representative going to add delays to my process? i.e., is this a good idea

thankss for whoever repliess!!!!
 

R151NG5UN

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roadToCa said:
I request your feedback on my case.. I am being sponsored by my husband who is a canadian citizen using OUTLAND application (though I currently live in Canada). My visa office is in an Asian country..

A potential employer wants to offer me a position but it is conditional on me having PR by early next year.. I spoke with an immig. consultant and he said that if I get a letter from them addressed to the visa office explaining these details, this will definitely speed up my app.. He also suggested he will send that letter with a cover letter (after I assign him as representtative)..

my questtions:
1- Would sending this letter really speed up the app?
2- Is assigning a representative going to add delays to my process? i.e., is this a good idea

thankss for whoever repliess!!!!
Highly doubtful. Depending on your VO, you are looking at about 6 months IF you are very very lucky. There certainly is no bias even with a concrete job offer but you can hope. From the gist of your post it seems your consultant is keen to sign for you to sign him as your representative and obviously paid well for his/her time.

Assigning a representative won't delay or speed up the process. If your application is relatively straight forward i.e you have no criminal factors or mitigating circumstances then doing the application by yourself is the same as having a consultant/Lawyer. If their fees are relatively cheap then maybe for piece of mind use them but I suspect their fees will be expensive. Don't expect any application to be expidited through using a Lawyer/ Consultant.

Good luck :D
 

Creampop

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Having the letter included with your application would be good to show you have potential employment but it will not get your application processed any faster. I am sorry I really find immigration consultants a waste of time, by assigning a representative the delay's will be... instead of you getting the e-mails from Immigration the consultant will so if they get right to you then no problem but if they don't then how ever long they take to get to you each time there will be delays, personally I would not do this...
 

Rob_TO

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As far as i know, using a representative will NOT speed up your app. The VOs couldn't care less if your app was prepared using a rep or not, it will still sit in the same pile waiting to get processed in the same time as the others. What a rep can do is try to ensure all your paperwork and everything is filled out correctly with nothing missing. But honestly for anyone with even a little bit of organizational skills, you should be able to do all the app package yourself with no "professional" help. Common questions and tips can all be found on this very website.

As to the job offer conditional on PR, well i've never heard of a PR app being pushed through ahead of others for the sake of a job... but i'm sure it doesn't hurt to include it. In the end it will be up to whoever opens your package in the Asia Visa office location, if they decide to take it into consideration.

Personally i would NOT use the rep in this case. I'm sure you can write a good enough cover letter on your own explaining the situation with the job... and you'll save yourself $1000 or so by doing everything yourself.

Perhaps others can provide more insight here though, as i'm just using my common sense!
 

truesmile

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A bit repetitive but I had typed it already . . . :

1. No, it I don't believe it will speed up your application. The VO abroad won't give a darn about that. You'll be on track to get 'Stage 1' or sponsorship approval by "early" next year. Have you completely ruled out an 'inland' application? With that you can apply for open work permit right after Stage 1 i.e. "early next year".
2. No, it won't add delays other than how efficiently he passes information along to you. We assigned "me" (sponsor) as representative only so that if needed CIC would speak to me on my wife's (applicant) behalf. It seems we are not being delayed unnecessarily.
 

R151NG5UN

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truesmile said:
A bit repetitive but I had typed it already . . . :

1. No, it I don't believe it will speed up your application. The VO abroad won't give a darn about that. You'll be on track to get 'Stage 1' or sponsorship approval by "early" next year. Have you completely ruled out an 'inland' application? With that you can apply for open work permit right after Stage 1 i.e. "early next year".
2. No, it won't add delays other than how efficiently he passes information along to you. We assigned "me" (sponsor) as representative only so that if needed CIC would speak to me on my wife's (applicant) behalf. It seems we are not being delayed unnecessarily.
They can apply for an OWP immediately with an inland process but the 1st stage approval is 6 months. So regardless of inland or outland the earliest I can see them being able to work is the very end of May 2013. You might be very lucky and get it sooner than that but unless you are going through 1 of the very fast VO's then anything before end of May seems unrealistic.
 

truesmile

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Oh yes, of course. I keep forgetting that inland Stage 1 approval takes so much longer. Thx!
 

R151NG5UN

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truesmile said:
Oh yes, of course. I keep forgetting that inland Stage 1 approval takes so much longer. Thx!
Your welcome and who knows maybe inland will speed up, it has been all year.

If the person had quoted what Asian VO they were going through it would have helped a lot more with potential advice. I mean they could be going through Islamabad in which case they could wait an eternity for approval or they could go through ND , in which case end of May seems a real possibility.
 

Rob_TO

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R151NG5UN said:
If the person had quoted what Asian VO they were going through it would have helped a lot more with potential advice. I mean they could be going through Islamabad in which case they could wait an eternity for approval or they could go through ND , in which case end of May seems a real possibility.
If they are going through Seoul... well you can look at my timeline to see the "potential" time from there!
 

R151NG5UN

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11/12/12
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Rob_TO said:
If they are going through Seoul... well you can look at my timeline to see the "potential" time from there!
Yes you got processed super fast but you are certainly the exception to the rule, not the rule itself. Congrats to you but advising people they will be done in your time line is very unrealistic.
 

Creampop

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Also if the Company really wanted her couldn't she/the company apply for LMO? and hire her? I honestly dunno to much about it but she mentioned the offer was conditional to her having PR by the beginning of the year, you would think they would realize they don't just hand them out like that... I dunno I am sure there is someone out there that has better information on that... but she would still be able to apply for her PR.
 

Rob_TO

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Med's Done....
Sent with App
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N/R - Exempt
VISA ISSUED...
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R151NG5UN said:
Yes you got processed super fast but you are certainly the exception to the rule, not the rule itself. Congrats to you but advising people they will be done in your time line is very unrealistic.
It depends on the visa office. The one we used was a low-volume one, and i remember seeing some statistical analysis of all VO sites recently and something like 20% of apps from our VO were processed in around that time. So yes it takes a bit of luck... but if you are going through the right outland office there's reason to be more optimistic.

I would suggest to expect at least the average or worse in terms of times... but count your blessings if it turns out much faster.
 

roadToCa

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awesome, so many replies so fast! thank you so much everyone.. here is some more detail:

- application already transferred to turrkey in October (according to CIC letter), so inland is not an option
- because app is already submitted, this letter will have to be sent to the visa office separately (not with the original app)

majority of you seems to think I don't need a consultant... so the question remains: to send or not to send the letter on my own.. (if yes, should it be addressed from me or my husband/sponsor??)

thanks for all the help
 

Sweden

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roadToCa said:
awesome, so many replies so fast! thank you so much everyone.. here is some more detail:

- application already transferred to turrkey in October (according to CIC letter), so inland is not an option
- because app is already submitted, this letter will have to be sent to the visa office separately (not with the original app)

majority of you seems to think I don't need a consultant... so the question remains: to send or not to send the letter on my own.. (if yes, should it be addressed from me or my husband/sponsor??)

thanks for all the help
I am not sure it makes a difference, and I am not sure that the VO would appreciate being "pushed" to take a speedy decision. So if you decide to send a letter, I would not write it with the angle of trying to push your file through. You might want to send it and express in the letter that you send it as an extra proof of your desire to live in Canada with your spouse, and your willingness to integrate in Canada - or something like this.
What the VO is concerned about is: applicant's background + genuine relationship or not. Timing, getting a job on arrival for the applicant etc is NOT the Vo's concern. So if you think that the letter can help your case in proving to the VO that your relationship is genuine, then go ahead...

You're going through Ankara - and the processing time just jumped quite a lot because files going through Syria are now processed there. So it's quite unlikely ( but not impossible) that you will have your PR in January... There is not many statistics out of Ankara for now, because of the number of files they are currently handling - it will take a while to get a more precise idea.

As somebody else mentioned - you could ask the company to get you a LMO if they want you for january absolutely, because you are not in a position to promise that, or influence the VO.

As for lawyer - I agree, I don't think it would add anything, and a lawyer that promises that it will speed up your application is suspicious to me!

Good luck,
Sweden
 

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roadToCa said:
A potential employer wants to offer me a position but it is conditional on me having PR by early next year.. I spoke with an immig. consultant and he said that if I get a letter from them addressed to the visa office explaining these details, this will definitely speed up my app.. He also suggested he will send that letter with a cover letter (after I assign him as representtative)..
First of all:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/representative/rep-who.asp

and

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/representative/rep-choose.asp

roadToCa said:
1- Would sending this letter really speed up the app?
No. The only thing that will ensure the fastest possible processing of your application is to submit one which has no mistakes, and requires no additional information or clarification.

By the sounds of it, the "consultant" is a weasel, and will say anything to have you give him money. It's precisely for these kinds of people that new laws were enacted, as outlined in the link I just posted.

roadToCa said:
2- Is assigning a representative going to add delays to my process? i.e., is this a good idea
It will certainly add delays to your process IF he's an idiot, because idiots are capable of doing pretty much anything. Under the best of circumstances, he will not create any additional problems for you, but will also not help speed things up. In other words, you've gained nothing. Under the worst of circumstances, he gives you completely wrong or misleading information, which definitely will delay your case - especially if you file the wrong paperwork based on his brilliant advice.

If you really feel you need an immigration consultant, make sure you check his credentials and ask for references from people he's helped in the past.