Wife is coming using visitor pass but want her to stay with me

[johnsmithrock]

Hello everyone,
I am a Canadian citizen holding down a teaching job with no criminal record. I hope someone can help me out here. Here is my story:
My wife is from southeast Asia. We have been together for 3 1/2 years and got married on October 2018. We now have a baby who is 3 months. She got her Canadian passport as she was born in Asia.

Now I want to being my family home to Canada. My wife got a visitor visa pass. However I want to sponsor her and get her PR as well. It is very important for my family to stay together. She is a nurse but will leave the job to be with me and the baby. She is healthy and has no criminal record.

So my questions:
1.Shall I apply to sponsor her before arriving in Canada or wait when we arrive in Canada?
2. If sponsoring my wile in Canada, is it a long process? Getting PR?
3. If sponsor is approved, will she be able to leave Canada next summer to visit her family for a month or so?

Thank you so much in advance. It is difficult for me to get some answers as I am Deaf even though my wife and baby are not.

 

[canuck78]

1. you have various options of sponsorship. Inland once she arrives in Canada where you can. Include a work permit.
Outland which can start while she is in her home country and will allow her to travel to her home country next year.

2. Around 12 months.

3. Only if applying Outland.

There is lots of information online for you to read.

 

[johnsmithrock]

Thank you so much. We are going to do the inland approach as my wife is working in another country which she has a work permit. Thus she wouldn't be able to apply from her home country. Regardless she's leaving her job to join me and our baby to Canada.

Regarding my wife going back to visit her home country(her sister is getting married next year), are you saying she can't leave Canada even though she still has her visitor visa pass. I wonder what would happen if i request a sponsorship and pr for my wife while she has a visitor visa pass.

The information online seems a bit confusing and overwhelming. Perhaps I am just nervous about this process. Figure people here would be helpful like you.

 

[johnsmithrock]

1. you have various options of sponsorship. Inland once she arrives in Canada where you can. Include a work permit.
Outland which can start while she is in her home country and will allow her to travel to her home country next year.

2. Around 12 months.

3. Only if applying Outland.

There is lots of information online for you to read.

Sorry I am new here. I did reply but realized it wasnt done properly.

Another thing...should my wife get her police certificate and medical updates in her current residence as shes working as a nurse in a foreign country.

 

[johnsmithrock]

Sorry I am new here. I did reply but realized it wasnt done properly.

Another thing...should my wife get her police certificate and medical updates in

And thank you again

 

[Jnicole45]

She doesnt have to be in her home country to apply outland, she just has to not be in Canada (or at least not intending to stay in Canada for the entire duration of the application processing time). You could even submit an outland application while she is visiting you.

Yes, if you have applied to sponsor her inland (which means she is intending to stay in Canada while the application processes), she cannot leave Canada for an extended period (anything more than a couple weeks or so) as they will consider her application abandoned and cancel it.

She will need a police certificate from the country she is currently in if she's been there for more than 6 months, and if she has spent the majority of her time since turning 18 in another country (like her home country) she'll need a police certificate from there as well. For the medical, she'll need to wait until your application is submitted and processing to do the medical exam portion, as they have to send you an official request for it

 

[Hurlabrick]

She doesnt have to be in her home country to apply outland, she just has to not be in Canada (or at least not intending to stay in Canada for the entire duration of the application processing time). You could even submit an outland application while she is visiting you.

Not correct. You can apply 'outland' even if she is with you in Canada AND stays in Canada for the duration of the process. But of course with outland, she cannot apply for an OWP and would have to maintain visitor status in Canada. The only adapvantage to the outland route even though she is visitibg in Canada is that dhe can leavr Canada on trips of longer than 2 or 3 weeks at a time with no imoact on the spousal sponsorship application.

 

[Jnicole45]

Not correct. You can apply 'outland' even if she is with you in Canada AND stays in Canada for the duration of the process. But of course with outland, she cannot apply for an OWP and would have to maintain visitor status in Canada. The only adapvantage to the outland route even though she is visitibg in Canada is that dhe can leavr Canada on trips of longer than 2 or 3 weeks at a time with no imoact on the spousal sponsorship application.

I oversimplified to try to make the difference between outland and inland more clear, but I guess I missed the mark.

I'm currently in Canada as an extended visitor while waiting for an outland application. I've seen people on this forum being denied visa extensions while in this situation, so I didn't necessarily want to recommend it to OP. It's definitely possible, just more difficult for someone who requires a visa

 

[Hurlabrick]

I oversimplified to try to make the difference between outland and inland more clear, but I guess I missed the mark.

I'm currently in Canada as an extended visitor while waiting for an outland application. I've seen people on this forum being denied visa extensions while in this situation, so I didn't necessarily want to recommend it to OP. It's definitely possible, just more difficult for someone who requires a visa

Yes, you are right, a visitor extension could be denied, depends on a lot of things, but if from say a visa exempt country, seems to be more routine to get an extension. OP needs to be careful if his wife resigns job in original country as CBSA coukd consider that she is not a true visitor. OP needs to retain strong ties back to otiginal country to be ckassed as a visitor.

 

[johnsmithrock]

Again thank you so much. I feel much better knowing what to do. I ll apply inland and my wife won't leave outside of canada until my sponsorship and PR for my wife have been approved.g

One more thing....i understand it takes awhile for the application to be processe

She doesnt have to be in her home country to apply outland, she just has to not be in Canada (or at least not intending to stay in Canada for the entire duration of the application processing time). You could even submit an outland application while she is visiting you.

Yes, if you have applied to sponsor her inland (which means she is intending to stay in Canada while the application processes), she cannot leave Canada for an extended period (anything more than a couple weeks or so) as they will consider her application abandoned and cancel it.

She will need a police certificate from the country she is currently in if she's been there for more than 6 months, and if she has spent the majority of her time since turning 18 in another country (like her home country) she'll need a police certificate from there as well. For the medical, she'll need to wait until your application is submitted and processing to do the medical exam portion, as they have to send you an official request for it

 

[johnsmithrock]

Thank you for the feedbacks . I feel much better going forward then before joining this forum.
Well we will apply inland and stay in Canada until my wife's application is approved regarding sponsorship and PR. It might be a bummer for my wife as her sister is getting married next year.

Is there anything else that i should do to ensure the application is successful .....

As well as is there anything that i SHOULDN'T do that would jeopardize my wife's application to receive sponsorship and PR

THANKS SO MUCH

 

[Jnicole45]

They estimate 12 months for a reason. Outland apps seem to be processing faster (closer to 6-8 months) at the moment, but every application is different. 12 months is a safe estimate for either inland or outland.

As far as tips go: Answer every question on every form as completely as possible. If you dont understand what exactly they're asking, refer to either complete or basic application guides on the IRCC website for clarification. BE HONEST. Misrepresentation (lying) on your application, even lies of omission, intentional or otherwise, can result in your wife being denied PR and possibly being subjected to an exclusion order (where she has to leave Canada and cannot return for a certain period of time). You don't need to overshare, but be very very careful that you don't exclude any information that is relevant to the question.

It doesnt hurt to gather extra documentation for certain sections of the application. You don't need to include extra, only what is specifically asked for, but it doesnt hurt to have extra photos or extra proof of your relationship on hand in the event that they ask for additional proof.

Other than that, I highly recommend utilizing the search function on this forum if you have specific questions, as someone has likely asked the same question before. Also, as long as you're within the normal 12 month processing time, there is rarely a reason to contact IRCC. People ask in every thread multiple times a day things like "I got my AOR X days ago, haven't heard anything since, should I call the helpline?" And the answer is almost always NO. It's a long process, the best thing you can do is just accept that and be patient with it, as much as it sucks.

 

[canuck78]

Just want to corrent that outland is closer to 12 months for amny countries. Often less if the sponsored spouse is from US, EU , AUS/NZ.

 

[cantthinkofaname]

My wife is from the Philippines. She had a visitors visa before we applied outland.

She came to Canada about 7 weeks after we submitted the application and stayed here until it was completed.

We had a few hoops to jump through, but ultimately got the PR visa about 6 months after applying.

She did not need to renew her visitor visa as she was only here a little over 4 months before the PR was issued.

Our application was processed in Mississauga.

From what I read, had an interview been necessary, she would have needed to return to Manila for that, but luckily that did not happen.

 

[johnsmithrock]

Thanks again.
According to the Filipino wife, did you specifically choose outland application because its quicker and easier? Or it doesnt matter if i did outland or inland?