Why doesn't trv guarantee entry at the border?

[johnny123123123]

Why doesn't trv guarantee entry at the border?

 

[on-hold]

Re: Is there a case where someone was granted a study permit but was refused entry ?

It's easy to imagine how it could happen -- a DUI or another crime that was either committed after receiving the visa, or not noted during the application process. Or, where going through the border was complicated by discovery of a drug pipe, or a large chunk of undeclared money, or something like this. At the same time, it's probably extremely rare.

I assume you're worried about something -- what is it that you think you'll be turned back for?

 

[johnny123123123]

Hi @ on-hold, these reasons are pretty clear - sorry for not explaining the question better.

I am rather asking if there are genuine people who got turned away for unjustified reasons.

 

[meagan99]

Re: Is there a case where someone was granted a study permit but was refused entry ?

Hi @ on-hold, these reasons are pretty clear - sorry for not explaining the question better.

I am rather asking if there are people who got turned away for no clear reason.

getting turned away is possible. I was watching discovery channel and found that people do get turned away. presenting fake documents usually makes this happen. check this out (person refused entry because he can't name course correctly)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=3wlRuhxW2uw#t=2269

if video starts playing from beginning then skip to 37:49

there is something which forced you to ask this question, please tell what that is because taking risk at entry is not a very beneficial thing to do.

 

[johnny123123123]

Hi @ meagan99, fake documents are also a clear reason for getting turned away - and thanks for the video.

Most of the people in the video are clearly breaking the law, so I am not asking about that. The funniest bit was the "Romanian" guy who said random, gibberish "Romanian" words to the interpreter on the phone. It is so clear he isn't Romanian lol.

I am asking if there is a case where a genuine student gets turned away for an unfounded reason like the "I don't like you" type of reason or if there is luck in the equation even when everything is clearly genuine.
Nothing forced me to ask this, except my curiosity as there isn't much about the topic here.

Update: Okay now I understand. The reason why TRV doesn't guarantee entry, is when the guy has an intention different than what he applied for in the study or work permit.

 

[on-hold]

TRV doesn't guarantee entry because it is granted by an embassy, but the border is manned by Canadian border guards (different organization). This is normal -- there is no visa from any country in the world that guarantees entry, because the border guards always have discretion. Are people with student visas rejected for no reason at all? Unlikely, because the border guard can probably find a reason, if they want to. Will some of them reject you for no reason at all and then search until they find a small justification? Don't know. Can they reject you without their superior signing off on it? Don't know. Will the superior support them unconditionally? I'd bet on it in the States, don't know about Canada. Personally, I find it hard to believe that if you fulfill the conditions for entry -- visa, real course of study, proof of funds, etc. -- that you will get turned back. Remember that something like an undisclosed DUI is not getting rejected for no reason, it's that they find a legitimate detail that makes you inadmissible.

Just having the visa, though, does not make you admissible, it gives you one puzzle piece.

 

[meagan99]

TRV doesn't guarantee entry because it is granted by an embassy, but the border is manned by Canadian border guards (different organization). This is normal -- there is no visa from any country in the world that guarantees entry, because the border guards always have discretion. Are people with student visas rejected for no reason at all? Unlikely, because the border guard can probably find a reason, if they want to. Will some of them reject you for no reason at all and then search until they find a small justification? Don't know. Can they reject you without their superior signing off on it? Don't know. Will the superior support them unconditionally? I'd bet on it in the States, don't know about Canada. Personally, I find it hard to believe that if you fulfill the conditions for entry -- visa, real course of study, proof of funds, etc. -- that you will get turned back. Remember that something like an undisclosed DUI is not getting rejected for no reason, it's that they find a legitimate detail that makes you inadmissible.

Just having the visa, though, does not make you admissible, it gives you one puzzle piece.

 

[scylla]

Why doesn't trv guarantee entry at the border?

Nothing guarantees entry except a valid Canadian PR card or a Canadian passport. If you hold anything else, there's always some chance of refusal.