Why does CIC request Police checks and Traffic reports?

[helps]

Why do we have to aquire police checks and driving traffic checks from our home countries for our PR?

I understand that Canadian Immigration want to screen the "good guys" from the "bad guys" hence the checks.

But... It seems that the lengthy process involved during the processing times, which can be months, years, whatever, is the VO, or Canadian Immigration in your Consulate, double checking your police and traffic checks, medicals etc...

If they already have access to our files, why do they make us apply for them, receive them, forward them?
I dont understand, are they just trying to elongate the process?

If they can obtain this info anyway, why make us get it too?

 

[gabba50]

They double check with the countries you previously lived in that's why you provide PCC from any country lived in for 6 months, but I never heard of driving record traffic reports being asked by CIC isn't PCC enough to verify your driving behaviours or DUI case ?

 

[helps]

If you ever lived in Australia you need to provide a Police Check as well as a traffic history check if you have ever lived in either the states of Victoria or Queensland.
I see on this forum alone people find it hard to get info from states like Victoria because they didnt hav a drivers licence while living there, they just lived there, and therefor cannot obtain a traffic history report. Instead they have to back and forth, emailing this guy and that guy, providing identity proof and proof of their residence in that state and all this hoohah just to get proof official proof that they infact dont have a history or have a clear traffic record.
Why do CIC make you go through all of that when they have access to this info anyway?

Why cant you just give them the countries, addresses and times you lived somwhere and they just go ahead and get that info themselves? If they are going to do it anyway?

 

[Aquakitty]

Why do you think they have access to this info? Canada and the US only recently began sharing a bit of that kind of information. It's a huge privacy violation if other countries can just look up your info on a whim.

I assume for Queensland and Victoria there's gaps in the regular police check information for Australia that's covered by this licence search.

 

[helps]

Well I assume they have access to this info because they double check, dont they?
It was my understanding that elongated wait times for app processing are the VO double checking all your certs, so if they have access to your info to double check, why not just do the checks themselves all along and save everybody time and effort etc..

 

[Aquakitty]

Well I assume they have access to this info because they double check, dont they?
It was my understanding that elongated wait times for app processing are the VO double checking all your certs, so if they have access to your info to double check, why not just do the checks themselves all along and save everybody time and effort etc..

I highly doubt they double check everybody, especially those from first world countries with no criminal history.

 

[ImABule]

I highly doubt they double check everybody, especially those from first world countries with no criminal history.

Correct if I'm wrong, but CIC doesn't double check anybody. They simply forward the application to CSIS for the SEC/CRIM checks and await the results. It is CSIS that corresponds with other government agencies to verify information.

 

[Aquakitty]

Correct if I'm wrong, but CIC doesn't double check anybody. They simply forward the application to CSIS for the SEC/CRIM checks and await the results. It is CSIS that corresponds with other government agencies to verify information.

Yea it's something like that, but I think they have a different program for outland apps. Given how long some apps take I doubt they send everyone to CSIS. What I read before suggests this can take a long time, and some apps go through very fast.

I assume they use the police checks as a base of some sort.

 

[helps]

Correct if I'm wrong, but CIC doesn't double check anybody. They simply forward the application to CSIS for the SEC/CRIM checks and await the results. It is CSIS that corresponds with other government agencies to verify information.

Ok, I'm a newbie so not up to speed with all this. Who or what is CSIS? Are they some sort of Interpol/NSA/global info watchdog or something.


And, again, if in this case CSIS has access to this info, AGAIN, why do we need to get it??
They will get it anyway?

 

[ImABule]

Ok, I'm a newbie so not up to speed with all this. Who or what is CSIS? Are they some sort of Interpol/NSA/global info watchdog or something.


And, again, if in this case CSIS has access to this info, AGAIN, why do we need to get it??
They will get it anyway?

CSIS is the Canadian intelligence agency.

CSIS will correspond with government agency's, local police, Interpol etc.

Keep in mind that not all countries are forth coming with information, and this is the reason the PCC is requested upfront.

I imagine it is a more simple task for CSIS to present a PCC for verification than it is to request the information out of the blue about a particular applicant.

 

[helps]

Yea it's something like that, but I think they have a different program for outland apps. Given how long some apps take I doubt they send everyone to CSIS. What I read before suggests this can take a long time, and some apps go through very fast.

I assume they use the police checks as a base of some sort.

So... CSIS dont check the Aussie certs, or atleast the ones with nothing on them, is this right?
They just go over them if they have redflags or something?
OK, I guess that makes more sense