Why did CIC slow down recently share your Opinion

[Dr_Midnite]

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@ hondaFan13

Why do you believe this is the root cause of the issue?

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[MenicMonday]

^I'm trying to find the thread for that one....

 

[hondaFan13]

Hi

@ hondaFan13

Why do you believe this is the root cause of the issue?

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I lot of gcms notes said that the security is in progress. And CIC uses a 3rd party to do these checks.

 

[2011july20]

Hi

I do not believe CIC generally keep your passport for a long time, in isolated instances then yes.

I disagree, CIC has the right to do what they need to ensure the validity of any application, I would expect nothing less of my home government. Do I think they should do everything in their power to process passports in a short amount of time then the answer is yes I do, but this does not detract from the right that CIC has to take their time and all our complaining will not change anything.

You will have the same issue when you apply for the PR card; the PR card process is taking time and in some instances may restrict travel until you have the card.

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Dr. Midnite,
People in this thread/forum are kind of brainstorming about the cause (s) of the unexpected delay(s) compared to others before us (them). Nobody is questioning the validity of the process as a whole; the applicants here know the difference between a right and a privilege. It is a question of fairness in terms of processing time as indicated in CIC website.
Many of the members here joined because they need a sense of understanding and comfort. I pray for all those of us that are in the various stages of this process and hope they achieve their dreams within the shortest time possible.
July20

 

[Dr_Midnite]

Hi

CIC state 13 months to process, as such if you have not hit the 13 month mark then there is little to be concerned about, yes some applications move through faster than others from time to time others don’t. There is no fairness about it, the system is the system and the time taken is the time taken.

Wishing for a quick processing time is what we all want, however we have to face reality at times.

If you have a legitimate application, provided everything in a timely manner, you meet the requirements pass the medical and clear all police and criminal checks then it will happen.

I can’t help it if I am a realist!!

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[baboo_pr]

Hi

CIC state 13 months to process, as such if you have not hit the 13 month mark then there is little to be concerned about, yes some applications move through faster than others from time to time others don't. There is no fairness about it, the system is the system and the time taken is the time taken.

Wishing for a quick processing time is what we all want, however we have to face reality at times.

If you have a legitimate application, provided everything in a timely manner, you meet the requirements pass the medical and clear all police and criminal checks then it will happen.

I can't help it if I am a realist!!

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Fine to be realist. But I think people have fair reasons to be concerned about way it progresses... Email replies takes weeks or month from CIC. GCMS notes takes months to arrive. I believe more information should be shared with applicants beside "Application Received" or "Application in Progress" or "Decision Made". How about allowing GCMS notes at a click of mouse? just pay $5 and next screen you see everything right away?

 

[Dr_Midnite]

Hi

I clearly respect your opinion so please respect mine.

Immigration takes time, this is a fact of life.

I am not disputing that there cannot be improvements to any system but overhauling an extremely complex process with many moving parts will always be slow. Essentially it is an imperfect system in an imperfect world. But ultimately we get what we want…….

Essentially we have no right to be concerned about the way it progresses, we are guests in this country and as such we should learn to respect their systems and their processes and the time they take.
We are all allowed to voice our opinions, hey that’s healthy but is it going to change anything, very doubtful.

Has no one considered that immigration into Canada is a very political issue, as such at times the system may be slowed to ensure that immigration targets are met.

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[richi jolly]

i agree with both of you. when it come to immgration govt has to be very carefull.However, they should follow one track.
my file was under review for 16 months but they did not contact me. They do not have a proper procedures.
Now they are holding my passport for more then 3 weeks, what if i need to travel
I can understand they need some time off but they should have someone to replace.
If your family doctor is gone on vaction, would you not to a drop in clinic, if you need to or you wait until he comes back.
CIC in Delhi,India held my freinds wife's passport for more then 2 months.
If the application has been compelted then whats the point to hold the passport for so long.

 

[cec14]

In fact the 13 month timeline does include the "slowness" of summer. Summer and vacations (as well as maternity leaves, holidays, christmas and everything else) are a thing that happen each year so they are reflected in the average processing times.

Yeah it is human to be impatient, but it is also human to know that and chill.

how come u landed in a future date on ur timeline....

 

[baboo_pr]

Hi

I clearly respect your opinion so please respect mine.
Absolutely I respect your opinion. You have valid points.

Immigration takes time, this is a fact of life.

I am not disputing that there cannot be improvements to any system but overhauling an extremely complex process with many moving parts will always be slow. Essentially it is an imperfect system in an imperfect world. But ultimately we get what we want.......

Essentially we have no right to be concerned about the way it progresses, we are guests in this country and as such we should learn to respect their systems and their processes and the time they take.
Sorry I respectfully disagree. I have been tax payer in this country for 2+ years. I have every right for a great service from Govt, Just like I would expect in my home country
We are all allowed to voice our opinions, hey that's healthy but is it going to change anything, very doubtful.
One Voice will not change anything but collective voices are very powerful. Dont forget current immigrants are future voters
Has no one considered that immigration into Canada is a very political issue, as such at times the system may be slowed to ensure that immigration targets are met.
Target cannot be met by having an inefficient operation
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[Dr_Midnite]

Hi

@ rich jolly

I note you say it was CIC India that held your friends wifes passport for 2 months? This is a little different to CIC in Canada holding the passport? Who is holding yours?

@ baboo_pr

As you would expect I respectfully disagree with some of your points.

I have 3+ years in Canada, I pay my taxes etc but until you receive PR you are a temporary foreign worker allowed to have status in the country by the government who allow the employer to have a foreign worker. Paying taxes does not entitle you to PR or Citizenship it just means you contribute to the infrastructure of the country the same way as any Canadian citizen. 2+ years in a country should not be seen as a right to immigration. The country recognizes your contribution by allowing you to apply for PR under CEC and then after a qualifying period you can apply for Citizenship. That is pretty good in my book.

Current immigrants only become future voters if they apply and receive Citizenship, that process is becoming more difficult and is taking longer to achieve. Do you honestly believe any government is going to soften its stance on immigration, the political landscape and the current changes on-going with the TFWP, LMO’s, PR, Citizenship & CIC as a whole suggest a harder stance is being taken on immigration. This is not an invasion whereby we overthrow governments with future voting, this is people from around the world coming together in a very welcoming and culturally diverse country to help improve our lives, fulfill our dreams and make Canada a better place for everyone.

How do we know the system is inefficient, has you application passed the 13 month period yet? Slow does not imply inefficiency. Don’t confuse inefficiency with being thorough.

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[maniac2403]

How do we know the system is inefficient, has you application passed the 13 month period yet? Slow does not imply inefficiency. Don't confuse inefficiency with being thorough.

Very well put.

 

[baboo_pr]

Hi

@ rich jolly

I note you say it was CIC India that held your friends wifes passport for 2 months? This is a little different to CIC in Canada holding the passport? Who is holding yours?

@ baboo_pr

As you would expect I respectfully disagree with some of your points.
[font=Verdana[color=red]]No problem bro. this is healthy discussion.I am enjoying this, please let me know if you are not I will stop replying. Don;t want to offend anyone[/color][/font]
I have 3+ years in Canada, I pay my taxes etc but until you receive PR you are a temporary foreign worker allowed to have status in the country by the government who allow the employer to have a foreign worker. Paying taxes does not entitle you to PR or Citizenship it just means you contribute to the infrastructure of the country the same way as any Canadian citizen. 2+ years in a country should not be seen as a right to immigration. The country recognizes your contribution by allowing you to apply for PR under CEC and then after a qualifying period you can apply for Citizenship. That is pretty good in my book.
Yep. Infrastructure of country - this includes govt dept functioning and hence I still believe I have right to question inefficiency

Current immigrants only become future voters if they apply and receive Citizenship, that process is becoming more difficult and is taking longer to achieve. Do you honestly believe any government is going to soften its stance on immigration, the political landscape and the current changes on-going with the TFWP, LMO's, PR, Citizenship & CIC as a whole suggest a harder stance is being taken on immigration. This is not an invasion whereby we overthrow governments with future voting, this is people from around the world coming together in a very welcoming and culturally diverse country to help improve our lives, fulfill our dreams and make Canada a better place for everyone.
[font=Verdana[color=red]]Looks like you will be a conservative voter. lol. Don't forget this era is very competitive, all developed worlds are competing to get highly skilled labour force. Trust me C 24 is boon for Australia, UK, even US![/[/color]font]
How do we know the system is inefficient, has you application passed the 13 month period yet? Slow does not imply inefficiency. Don't confuse inefficiency with being thorough.
Sorry, slow means there is room for improvement hence there is inefficiency. I can guarantee that resources are not utilized efficiently by CIC
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[font=Verdana[color=red]]Lastly, I am with you about Canada is great place to raise family and build dreams. I am questioning things can be made better[/color][/font]
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[Dr_Midnite]

Hi

@ baboo_pr

As I have said in a previous post, government systems are slow; there is a high level of bureaucracy in all global governments, I have experienced the UAE and China immigration systems, compared to those Canada is just slow.

I have no political preference, I come from the UK which is seeing high levels of immigration, and many are economic migrants looking for education, healthcare and benefits without wanting to contribute to the system. There are also many genuine immigrants looking to build a better life for them and their families and they are willing to contribute. The government is taking a harder stance on immigration, they are not opposed to people wishing to contribute to the country but the process will become tougher and longer.

Having seen firsthand the native UK population’s reaction to immigration I can now see how this is having an effect on government policy. Regardless of which party gains power immigration is always a political nightmare along with tax levels. As such I fully appreciate the process CIC make us go through. I do not believe it will change even with a change in government.

No one is arguing that things can’t be made better, that is a fair comment. There is a difference between making notes on improvement and complaining about a process that is designed to ensure a thorough review of an application takes place. Ultimately immigration is a lot of form filling, requires a high human element and is inherently slow by design.

I don’t have an issue continuing the debate; however I think we fully understand our positions.

Simply, we have to wait at the moment. There are November applicants who completed medicals in May who have not had PPR or RPRF. I am a Jan applicant and have medicals done in July, just got to wait.
No one knows why there is a slowdown but I would suggest it is by design.

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[Goku]

This time they are also working on FSW 2014 applications(one who chose CPC-Ottawa as VO) along with CEC applications. So according to me they would have allocated staff accordingly. So that's the reason MR has slowed down from Past 2 months.

P.S. They have requested Medical and RPRF with 1 month of file transfer from CIO-Sydney. That means one who submitted application in First week of May 2014 have already received PPR. Strange but true.

Does it make sense now.