Why are you moving to Canada?
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Anyone who ended up with covid in thr US may also have been sucked dry even with insurance.
This is difficult to believe. KSA is no way closer to the liberties one would have in US society.
Similar, not same, duh.
Cars, Food, Infrastructure, Malls, Music, Movies, Retail stores, Fashion, that is what i consider lifestyle.
Generally, a normal Saudi citizen is a diehard fan of the American culture. Eg. Low to middle class Saudis prefer to drive (crappy, unreliable) American cars.
Although I do agree on the liberties & freedom of speech side of things.. it's getting better but it has a long way to go.
I would rather be in Canada than in Saudi Arabia though. It is still regressive in a lot of ways that are unacceptable to me but it is getting better.. partly because they're running out of ways to find value in oil.
As an American, this is one of the hardest things for me. So many places are getting better - more liberal, more accepting, more open, less poor, less sick, etc. The United States isn't, and hasn't been for a long time.
Canada certainly also has much of the economic stagnation of the US, but on many other metrics, it doesn't have the same problems, especially in education, healthcare, and social progressivism. That's a material difference.
I agree. Growing up, I was obsessed with America. To me, Americans were the smartest, brightest and were truly the leader of the free world. But slowly and especially after 2016, it was truly shocking to see how wrong I was. It is literally going back and undoing all the good work and development that happened over the years, especially on social & environmental issues.
Economic stagnation is not the end of the world I believe. I really want to see Canada succeed and be one of the best countries out there, and I intend to do my bit the best I can for that.
Economic stagnation is not the end of the world I believe. I really want to see Canada succeed and be one of the best countries out there, and I intend to do my bit the best I can for that.
Still very different. Access to same material things like stores, music and movies is somewhat similar but that isn’t your lifestyle. If you are a woman your life in KSA is unlikely to be similar to the US. Lifestyle is not influenced by religion like it is in KSA. Also no clear divisions between the Saudi elites, expats, migrant workers and middle to low income Saudis. Malls are much more luxurious versus malls in the US. Then there is freedom of expression, lack of rights, human rights abuse, etc. Not sure if it is really getting that much better with MBS.
Where do i start?
I come from a small country that is considered by most to be a success story in the region. However, being small and isolated, people tend to be very closed-minded, jealous, superficial, shallow and really everything you would despise. As an example, people who drive fancy German cars think the rules don't apply to them on the road, and so we have lots of terrible accidents on the road because of the reckless way people drive due to their arrogance.
Employers are exploitative, you work a lot and you get paid a pittance in salary, and get passed over for promotions due to office politics even when you are hardworking and others get promotions because they have connections. Politically, we have many problems because our society is divided along communal lines and despite being a democracy, our elections always devolve into people just voting for parties which represent their religious and ethnic community despite how corrupt they are. We also have significant risks associated with burglaries and property crimes which have only worsened over time. Religion also plays a big part in public life, and it's something i dislike because i believe in the separation of the state and religion, and i believe secularism is important so that people's religious practices don't impinge on your ability to live your life.
Opportunities are few and far between, and so much depends on who you know not how good your profile is for a job. Despite salaries being very low, the cost of living is high, comparable to a Western country. Infrastructure is terrible, and i'm often incensed by the lack of urban planning which has plagued the country, and so it's very often you'll see 2 way roads which are not even wide enough to be a 1 way road. This is all pretty hard for me to accept because i grew up somewhere with pretty good infrastructure. It's also a small country which is limited and there isn't much to see.
I want to move to Canada because it really is in many way the complete antithesis of where i'm from: it's clean, people are civilized, people are more cultured, open-minded and fair-minded, look at the world in a more sophisticated way, there are many more opportunities, it's a big country with lots to explore and enjoy, and the country has great infrastructure and amenities.
Will there be ups and downs? Sure. Will there be moments it lets me down? Undoubtedly. But i know Canada is a better suited country for me, and better matches my mindset and beliefs, and what i value in life.
I come from a small country that is considered by most to be a success story in the region. However, being small and isolated, people tend to be very closed-minded, jealous, superficial, shallow and really everything you would despise. As an example, people who drive fancy German cars think the rules don't apply to them on the road, and so we have lots of terrible accidents on the road because of the reckless way people drive due to their arrogance.
Employers are exploitative, you work a lot and you get paid a pittance in salary, and get passed over for promotions due to office politics even when you are hardworking and others get promotions because they have connections. Politically, we have many problems because our society is divided along communal lines and despite being a democracy, our elections always devolve into people just voting for parties which represent their religious and ethnic community despite how corrupt they are. We also have significant risks associated with burglaries and property crimes which have only worsened over time. Religion also plays a big part in public life, and it's something i dislike because i believe in the separation of the state and religion, and i believe secularism is important so that people's religious practices don't impinge on your ability to live your life.
Opportunities are few and far between, and so much depends on who you know not how good your profile is for a job. Despite salaries being very low, the cost of living is high, comparable to a Western country. Infrastructure is terrible, and i'm often incensed by the lack of urban planning which has plagued the country, and so it's very often you'll see 2 way roads which are not even wide enough to be a 1 way road. This is all pretty hard for me to accept because i grew up somewhere with pretty good infrastructure. It's also a small country which is limited and there isn't much to see.
I want to move to Canada because it really is in many way the complete antithesis of where i'm from: it's clean, people are civilized, people are more cultured, open-minded and fair-minded, look at the world in a more sophisticated way, there are many more opportunities, it's a big country with lots to explore and enjoy, and the country has great infrastructure and amenities.
Will there be ups and downs? Sure. Will there be moments it lets me down? Undoubtedly. But i know Canada is a better suited country for me, and better matches my mindset and beliefs, and what i value in life.
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Major relate!
No country is perfect.
