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Who received ITA using LMO instead of LMIA?

abinto

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amro375 said:
The draw was 7 days ago. When did he submit all the documents and get request for Medicals?
january 1st, I helped him to fill out the application. Once he got the ITA, we again had to fill lot of stuffs like travel history, and all.

wen he submitted that , he got message to do the medicals and police clearance up front with in 60 days.
really busy days for him. need PCC from India too.
 

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forever21 said:
Haha, did you try doing it? :D
Although there is no clear information on CIC that LMO=LMIA, I found something like this, and hoping that the LMO will work.


''Is the worker currently in Canada under a positive LMIA/LMO?

If yes, skip to candidate steps
If no, an LMIA is required. Continue with employer steps''


http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/publications/employers/express-entry-presentation-fall2014.asp
It doesn't say LMIA=LMO, does it? I just wonder why EE system specifically asks for LMIA info and not LMIA/LMO?

Personally I think LMO holders will get the 600 points safely but it's easy to ask CIC directly instead of writing in a forum and crossing fingers!
 

forever21

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Nov 17, 2014
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AAA2133 said:
It doesn't say LMIA=LMO, does it? I just wonder why EE system specifically asks for LMIA info and not LMIA/LMO?

Personally I think LMO holders will get the 600 points safely but it's easy to ask CIC directly instead of writing in a forum and crossing fingers!
Yes it does. Read ''scenario 2''
Every time you call CIC you get a different answer!
 

AAA2133

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forever21 said:
Yes it does. Read ''scenario 2''
Every time you call CIC you get a different answer!
No it does not. It says employers are not required to apply for a LMIA if the worker already has LMIA\LMO which makes sense. Where they are talking about 600 points and valid job offer they come up with LMIA requirement even in EE questionnaire. I don't wanna scare you or give you a false alert but I would send an email and ask then I have some official response that can be used later.

Still I GUESS LMO will award you 600 points.
 

forever21

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Nov 17, 2014
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I will email them anyways, but it says :

Employer

Is the worker currently in Canada under a positive LMIA/LMOFootnote 5?

If yes, skip to candidate steps
If no, an LMIA is required. Continue with employer steps

Yes

Candidate

Candidate creates/updates Express Entry profile

Candidate creates/updates Express Entry profile with job offer information
Candidate will be invited to apply

With a valid job offer, the candidate will receive additional points and be invited to apply
Candidate submits application for permanent residence

Once invited, candidate has 60 days to submit a complete application for permanent residence
 

forever21

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Nov 17, 2014
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The system recognizes LMO number and gives 600 points,
People got ITA's using LMO's so I hope CIC checks validity of the LMO-LMIA before sending the invitation. It would be odd if they didn't do so and send ITA's relying on answers from EE...

I will email them anyways just to make sure ???
 

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21-10-2015
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24-09-2015
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24-02-2016
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10-03-2016
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forever21 said:
The system recognizes LMO number and gives 600 points,
People got ITA's using LMO's so I hope CIC checks validity of the LMO-LMIA before sending the invitation. It would be odd if they didn't do so and send ITA's relying on answers from EE...

I will email them anyways just to make sure ???
Unfortunately system is not designed to verify certificate numbers, it would be in later stages when you submit documents as a proof. You canbgive it a try with some random ECA\IELTS# and the system does recognize it.
 

forever21

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AAA2133 said:
Unfortunately system is not designed to verify certificate numbers, it would be in later stages when you submit documents as a proof. You canbgive it a try with some random ECA\IELTS# and the system does recognize it.
Did you try sumbittig it with some random number as a LMO/LMIA?
 

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amro375 said:
Sad reality man.
Some workers in Tim Hortons will get LMIA and will get PR, and some highly qualified workers with all the certificate cannot because they are working in too big of a company that does not want to go to the trouble of getting LMIA.
Sad reality :(
That might be true for some NOC B jobs, because unfortunately CIC still classifies NOC B as skilled. However, for NOC 0 or A jobs WITH LMIA/LMO, majority of them are far more qualified, experienced and skilled in very specialized areas (whose equivalent is not available in Canada) which a fresh recent graduate can't possibly have.
 

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21-10-2015
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24-02-2016
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forever21 said:
Did you try sumbittig it with some random number as a LMO/LMIA?
No but when I was entering my IELTS report code I mistakenly put a wrong number and it went through, couple days later when I was reviewing I found my mistake.

My whole point is that if you are not sure, ask and get it confirmed.
 

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AAA2133 said:
No it does not. It says employers are not required to apply for a LMIA if the worker already has LMIA\LMO which makes sense. Where they are talking about 600 points and valid job offer they come up with LMIA requirement even in EE questionnaire. I don't wanna scare you or give you a false alert but I would send an email and ask then I have some official response that can be used later.

Still I GUESS LMO will award you 600 points.
LMIA and LMO same thing, in 2013 or beginingn of 2014 who ever got job offer approved by service Canada it calls LMO. After June 2014 the name chage by LMIA in order to some changes . Tahts all about it. Do not get confused between LMIA and LMO.
 

amro375

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Nov 3, 2014
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AAA2133 said:
No but when I was entering my IELTS report code I mistakenly put a wrong number and it went through, couple days later when I was reviewing I found my mistake.

My whole point is that if you are not sure, ask and get it confirmed.
I have LMO and I have called CIC 3 times to ask if LMO = LMIA. Two agent said it is the same just different terminology. One said it is not and you have to have LMIA, unless on your LMO it says that is for permanent job. As far as I know everyone who has LMO has 24 months or 36 months validity on the LMO as you are not allowed to work more than 4 years in TWP.

I asked the agent that said that LMO = LMIA to send me some doucument or replay on mail as proof, but shed only send me link to TWP/LMIA program and told me that they have pre-written mails and cannot send text on their own. I asked if the conversation is recorded so I can use it as a proof if they find me showing LMIA as LMO as misinterpretation but got answare that the conversation is not recoreded.

At the moment even though i have LMO and 1 year canadinan experience in NOC B I will wait to see what will happened to those who apply with LMO before applying myself. Maybe I am extra careful... don't know.

Please anyone share your thoughts
 

maya_india

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Can anyone tell me where can I find my lmo number in my lmo plsssss.. There are couple of nos...kindly help plss
 

forever21

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maya_india said:
Can anyone tell me where can I find my lmo number in my lmo plsssss.. There are couple of nos...kindly help plss
''Labour Market Confirmation for #'' on the very top of the page ;)
 

abinto

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Dec 8, 2014
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amro375 said:
I have LMO and I have called CIC 3 times to ask if LMO = LMIA. Two agent said it is the same just different terminology. One said it is not and you have to have LMIA, unless on your LMO it says that is for permanent job. As far as I know everyone who has LMO has 24 months or 36 months validity on the LMO as you are not allowed to work more than 4 years in TWP.

I asked the agent that said that LMO = LMIA to send me some doucument or replay on mail as proof, but shed only send me link to TWP/LMIA program and told me that they have pre-written mails and cannot send text on their own. I asked if the conversation is recorded so I can use it as a proof if they find me showing LMIA as LMO as misinterpretation but got answare that the conversation is not recoreded.

At the moment even though i have LMO and 1 year canadinan experience in NOC B I will wait to see what will happened to those who apply with LMO before applying myself. Maybe I am extra careful... don't know.

Please anyone share your thoughts
Well.I think you just missed a golden chance of getting ITA in the first round. My buddy got ITA, as he had LMO and now doing his medicals and PCC. CIC won't send someone with out validating the information they provided in the application form. Dont worry, you still have chance .