WHEN YOUR PARENT SPONSORSHIP 2014 APPLICATION REACHED CPC-M? UPDATE HERE...

[quinnman]

Has anyone else besides Nina.Roy received an AOR?

 

[bhjerry]

Are you sure?
Are you a qualified application?
You landed here on Dec ,2010, are you qualified to apply?

No, no, no, of cause, you can not apply !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Do not fooling people here, please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I got an email AOR today from CIC.

 

[bhjerry]

Are you sure?
Are you a qualified application?
You landed here on Dec ,2010, are you qualified to apply?

No, no, no, of cause, you can not apply !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Do not fooling people here, please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I got an email AOR today from CIC.

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UCI: #
Application No.: #
Quote these numbers when corresponding with our office.

This is an automated message. Please DO NOT RESPOND to this message.

Dear <my name>,

This confirms that your application to Sponsor a Member of the Family Class has been received by Citizenship and Immigration Canada (CIC) on 2014/01/02 on behalf of the following member(s):

<parents names>

 

[bhjerry]

Has anyone else besides Nina.Roy received an AOR?

He/she landed on Dec, 2010(LANDED..........: 14-Dec-2010), how can he/she apply immigration for his/her parents in 2014?

You think he/she has income in 2010?

 

[screech339]

He/she landed on Dec, 2010(LANDED..........: 14-Dec-2010), how can he/she apply immigration for his/her parents in 2014?

You think he/she has income in 2010?

Ninaroy did not meet the 2010 lico requirements so she either submitted the 2013 NOA (unlikely) or 2013 paystubs along with all the option C printouts for 2010, 2011 and 2012, in the hopes CIC will overlook this. 2013 lico was not even released at the time either.

Her application was accepted towards 5000 cap only because her application was considered complete with all the required paperwork with all her option C printouts despite not qualifying 2010 lico. Again remember CiC announced they will accept completed applications towards 5000 cap. Incomplete applications will get rejected and returned. The rest whether they qualify or not will move on. CIC has no time to exam the applications up close. Just make sure all papers and forms are there. Further examination will be done once the old PGP has been cleared first and then open her application.

Perhaps she hopes that CIC will become sympathetic toward her and give her a free pass because her application has been in the system for so long, despite not following the rules to qualify to being with.

Screech339

 

[Rob_TO]

He/she landed on Dec, 2010(LANDED..........: 14-Dec-2010), how can he/she apply immigration for his/her parents in 2014?

You think he/she has income in 2010?

In general, people can always use their co-signers income to qualify. So someone can land as PR, and apply the next day for their parents if their Canadian spouse meets the income requirements. Or people can be earning income in Canada under a work permit for years before they actually become a PR.

 

[canvis2006]

Are you sure?
Are you a qualified application?
You landed here on Dec ,2010, are you qualified to apply?

No, no, no, of cause, you can not apply !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Do not fooling people here, please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Calm down.

If her husband and her can meet the LICO in 2010, then sure they can qualify easily.
It all depends on the income levels. She can have her husband co-sign.

If not, CIC will reject it later in the process. Let CIC do their job, very slowly.

 

[screech339]

Calm down.

If her husband and her can meet the LICO in 2010, then sure they can qualify easily.
It all depends on the income levels. She can have her husband co-sign.

If not, CIC will reject it later in the process. Let CIC do their job, very slowly.

If she had a co-signer then she shouldn't have a problem. However I may be wrong and I will apologize if I am wrong, but I seem to recall that she couldn't meet the 2010 lico limit. If she does, then nothing to worry about.

Screech339

 

[bhjerry]

If she had a co-signer then she shouldn't have a problem. However I may be wrong and I will apologize if I am wrong, but I seem to recall that she couldn't meet the 2010 lico limit. If she does, then nothing to worry about.

Screech339

But she said she got the file number. Do you think it is true?

 

[user828]

It would be very fortunate for those who skipped the 2010 income radar and got approved, however if I have understood CIC correctly- they are not as diligent when it comes to checking all paperwork, in that case it would be very unfortunate to find out that the sponsor didn't meet the criteria so late that they would miss 2015, 2016

All this applicant got was AOR for the actual application, there is an approval process which happens after the fact. Frankly, If I were her - I would confirm this with CIC than wait 24 months from now, only to find out that the application wasn't eligible. You simply can't argue that with them nor contest it and that would be a disaster

 

[canvis2006]

This is why now CIC only want to see Tax-related documents (from CRA) for income determinations.
Option-C printouts are the best method.

 

[screech339]

This is why now CIC only want to see Tax-related documents (from CRA) for income determinations.
Option-C printouts are the best method.

As option C printouts are an important document for income verification, it doesn't stop them from submitting printouts showing that they clearly do no meet the lico requirements and steal a spot from someone else who actually qualify lico requirements from one of the coveted 5000 cap limit. That poor soul now have to wait another year to try again.

 

[nina.roy]

But she said she got the file number. Do you think it is true?

bhjerry - As far as I know, this forum is for sharing our application status with CIC so that others can benefit from it. If you don't believe that CIC responded to me then that's your problem, not mine, I don't have to prove anything to you Sir!

If she had a co-signer then she shouldn't have a problem. However I may be wrong and I will apologize if I am wrong, but I seem to recall that she couldn't meet the 2010 lico limit. If she does, then nothing to worry about.

Screech339

I landed here in Dec 2010, and was working here from 20th Dec as I made sure I had a job here before I landed. So that's why I had an NOA for year 2010. For all those of you speculating about my case, I submitted my application based on income levels of 2011, 2012, 2013. For year 2013, I submitted paystubs, bank statements, employer letters (not NOA). I was very clear in my covering letter to CIC that my 2010 NOA does not meet LICO and that I am applying based on my income for 2011/12/13.

It would be very fortunate for those who skipped the 2010 income radar and got approved, however if I have understood CIC correctly- they are not as diligent when it comes to checking all paperwork, in that case it would be very unfortunate to find out that the sponsor didn't meet the criteria so late that they would miss 2015, 2016

All this applicant got was AOR for the actual application, there is an approval process which happens after the fact. Frankly, If I were her - I would confirm this with CIC than wait 24 months from now, only to find out that the application wasn't eligible. You simply can't argue that with them nor contest it and that would be a disaster

After reading numerous posts on this thread I wrote to CIC again in Feb seeking advice from them if I should withdraw my application or not. I explained to them that because my application was accepted and counted towards the 5000 cap for this year, and my application clearly stated that I am applying based on financial eligibility for years 2013, 2012, 2011, I am not sure how my application will be assessed in year 2016 when its processing commences. And that I do not want to wait until year 2016 to find out that my application was ineligible for sponsorship because my NOA for year 2010 did not meet LICO at the time of submission, and have to reapply in year 2017 (thereby missing the opportunity to apply in year 2015 and 2016 for my parents sponsorship). I asked them straight up if I should withdraw my application now and re-apply in year 2015 with NOAs from year 2011, 2012, 2013? OR will they evaluate my application based on 2011, 2012, 2013 in this year's batch?

In response to my email, after I received my email AOR recently, I got a phone call from CPC-M and they basically asked me again why I was considering withdrawing my application, and I explained to them my situation and I also advised them that I am about to give birth to my 2nd child (and that I still meet the LICO for year 2011/12/13 after the new addition). So they said that I should allow my application to proceed and not to withdraw. They asked me to submit a change in circumstance update to them after my new baby is born by providing them with the birth certificate of my new baby and NOA of 2013. He said that he had no idea how my application will be processed and that I shouldn't worry about it. He also said that he is only responding to my email and had not looked into my paperwork/file. But he said that he will send a message to someone and if my case is a cause of concern, they will call back. So i'm basically stuck in limbo atm.

As option C printouts are an important document for income verification, it doesn't stop them from submitting printouts showing that they clearly do no meet the lico requirements and steal a spot from someone else who actually qualify lico requirements from one of the coveted 5000 cap limit. That poor soul now have to wait another year to try again.

For gods sake, cut the crap about stealing someone's spot! I am sick of your insinuations! Get a life dude, seriously! You will not get very far in life with that attitude!

 

[screech339]

For gods sake, cut the crap about stealing someone's spot! I am sick of your insinuations! Get a life dude, seriously! You will not get very far in life with that attitude!

Sorry nina.roy,

I am not trying to make any insinuations at all. As much as you are in denial, that is exactly what you did.

If my attitude is all about fairness for everyone and following the rules in life, doesn't get me very far in life according to you, then so be it.

 

[Rob_TO]

So they said that I should allow my application to proceed and not to withdraw. They asked me to submit a change in circumstance update to them after my new baby is born by providing them with the birth certificate of my new baby and NOA of 2013. He said that he had no idea how my application will be processed and that I shouldn't worry about it. He also said that he is only responding to my email and had not looked into my paperwork/file. But he said that he will send a message to someone and if my case is a cause of concern, they will call back. So i'm basically stuck in limbo atm.

Unfortunately the only person that can truly know how your case will be processed, is the specific VO that will process it. The guy you talked to on the phone has no idea what the decision of the VO will be. If the VO follows the rule that apps submitted in Jan 2014 must meet the financial requirements at the time of application (which is meeting LICO for 2010, 2011 and 2012), then the VO may not even consider any new updates you've sent since, and simply reject the app. Whatever some other agent said to you otherwise, will not be relevant.

Hopefully you get some feedback before the end of this year, but if you don't you should really consider withdrawing your app and applying again in Jan 2015. It may be well into 2015 or 2016 before they actually start serious stage 1 processing for Jan 2014 parent apps and you get a definitive answer. In the end, the 5K apps in 2014 and 5K in 2015 will all end up being processed around the same general time anyways.