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When can Engineer Son immigrating to Canada sponsor Parents?

yousafnoor

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We are having RP status in Gulf for the last 23 years. My son is immigrating to Canada as a Mechanical Engineer. We have 1,20,000 Dollars as retirement settlement. Our question is:
Can my son sponsor us after having landed status in Canada?
I will be 60 years old and can transfer 1,20,000 Canadian Dollars to my son account. I am Oil field/Gas plant professional.

Your professional advice will be greatly appreciated.
 

scylla

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No - he won't be able to sponsor you for permanent residency immediately after becoming a permanent resident.

He will first have to become a permanent resident and then live and work in Canada for at least three years before he will be able to enter the lottery to sponsor you. Note that to qualify for the lottery, he will have to have a job that earns the minimum level of income required to sponsor you. Having money in the bank doesn't matter and if you transfer your money to him it won't make any difference. He has to have an actual job in Canada that meets the income requirement.

So again, it will be at least three years before he'll qualify to enter the lottery to sponsor you. And then it will depend on whether he's selected through the lottery or not.

Until then, all you can do is visit.

FYI - no professional advice on this forum (if you want professional advice, you'll need to spend money and hire an immigration lawyer). We are all regular people like you - just with more knowledge of the process.
 

yousafnoor

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Thanks very much VIP Member
A great help to understand the regulatiuons about my query.
If we visit our son's family and have enough funds with us to support our stay on visit visa, how long can we stay with our family?
We have only son and only grand child and need to be around the grand kid exactly as per the Canada's regulations.
 

scylla

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You can apply for a regular visitor visa - or you can apply for a super visa once your son has moved to Canada as a PR and has a job in Canada that meets the low income cut off.

A visitor visa can allow you to remain in Canada for up to six months before you have to apply to extend your stay. Although how long you are allowed to remain in Canada is up to the CBSA officer you encounter at the border. If your visitor visa is approved or an extension is granted is entirely up to CIC.

With a super visa, you can remain in Canada as a visitor for up to two years. Once again, how long a visit you are actually granted is up to the CBSA officer you encounter at the border - whether the visa is approved is up to CIC.

Generally speaking, you should expect that you'll need to spend more time outside of Canada than inside of Canada since both of these visas only allow you to visit Canada (not live here).
 

yousafnoor

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Again Thanks for the much appreciated assistance, I am getting from this forum.
Is there any way, a retired 60 years old, could get immigration? Financing is no problem. I have business experience only in agriculture and small house construction but construction my hobby and agri farm is my family's business.
I am power user in SAP and MS Application expert and professional in oil & Gas fields.
 

scylla

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If you have a few million dollars to invest in Canada, then it may be possible. Otherwise the only realistic option (due to your age) is to be sponsored by your son once he's lived in Canada for several years and qualifies.
 

umar32085

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So, Canada's laws for sponsoring parents are quite strict. I'll be landing in Canada in July this year and now I am a bit worried regarding parent's sponsoring.
 

Bs65

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umar32085 said:
So, Canada's laws for sponsoring parents are quite strict. I'll be landing in Canada in July this year and now I am a bit worried regarding parent's sponsoring.
Yes they might seem strict but why would anyone expect to land as a PR and then the next day apply to sponsor parents as future PRs without having established themselves in Canada.

The rules are clearly published for all to see and it is not even about how financially well off someone is but about how a new PR has established themselves in Canada either through employment or simply establishing residence hence a 3 year requirement is seen to be a good indication.

As for the parents sponsorship lottery this is relatively new and some people may say is unfair or harsh process but as I understand it was introduced both due to the significant numbers of applications and to attempt to streamline the process potentially reducing application times given it is a specific number.

As previous post your only option in the meantime once you have landed is probably to follow through on the super visa route which can support extended visits, not living in the country , but visits for parents/grandparents. http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/visit/supervisa.asp
 

umar32085

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Bs65 said:
Yes they might seem strict but why would anyone expect to land as a PR and then the next day apply to sponsor parents as future PRs without having established themselves in Canada.

The rules are clearly published for all to see and it is not even about how financially well off someone is but about how a new PR has established themselves in Canada either through employment or simply establishing residence hence a 3 year requirement is seen to be a good indication.

As for the parents sponsorship lottery this is relatively new and some people may say is unfair or harsh process but as I understand it was introduced both due to the significant numbers of applications and to attempt to streamline the process potentially reducing application times given it is a specific number.
Thank you for your reply.
Yes you are correct regarding the financial settlement. But the main purpose of Immigration is, that whole families migrate from one country to another, which, actually I want to do. So, in my opinion, these laws should be somewhat lenient, especially for those who are willing to invest more than CAD500,000.00 in Canada.
 

DollyM

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umar32085 said:
Thank you for your reply.
Yes you are correct regarding the financial settlement. But the main purpose of Immigration is, that whole families migrate from one country to another, which, actually I want to do. So, in my opinion, these laws should be somewhat lenient, especially for those who are willing to invest more than CAD500,000.00 in Canada.
No, the purpose of immigration from the Canadian Government's point of view it to attract skilled people who will contribute to the Canadian tax coffers. Elderly parents do not work or pay as much tax as those who are younger and skilled. They in fact cost the Canadian taxpayer more in medical and care costs. So, in my opinion (as a Canadian) these laws should be more stringent.

Your having 500k to invest is really not relevant to whether your parents should be allowed to migrate. Should someone with less money also be allowed to sponsor their parents? How about people with loads of cash but parents who are severely ill and unable to contribute anything but need constant specialist medical care?
 

scylla

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umar32085 said:
Thank you for your reply.
Yes you are correct regarding the financial settlement. But the main purpose of Immigration is, that whole families migrate from one country to another, which, actually I want to do. So, in my opinion, these laws should be somewhat lenient, especially for those who are willing to invest more than CAD500,000.00 in Canada.
I believe Australia has an accelerated process for parent sponsorship if you're willing to pay more. Canada does not. You will follow the same rules as everyone else.

It will be at least four years from the time you arrive in Canada before you will be able to enter the lottery to sponsor your parents (and you'll need to give living and working in Canada during those for years to qualify). How long it takes for you to be selected from the lottery is of course something none of us here can predict.

Until then, your parent can try applying for a visitor visa or a super visa (if you meet the requirements) to visit Canada temporarily.
 

Bs65

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umar32085 said:
Thank you for your reply.
Yes you are correct regarding the financial settlement. But the main purpose of Immigration is, that whole families migrate from one country to another, which, actually I want to do. So, in my opinion, these laws should be somewhat lenient, especially for those who are willing to invest more than CAD500,000.00 in Canada.
whole families maybe in terms of husband, wife and their children maybe but not parents, grandparents,brothers, sisters and so on as any automatic right.

This is all stated clearly in the immigration guidelines so nobody should really embark on their immigration journey with any impression otherwise although plenty seem to do so. For extended visit stays in the meantime a parent/grandparent super visa may be the way to go.
 

umar32085

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Bs65 said:
whole families maybe in terms of husband, wife and their children maybe but not parents, grandparents,brothers, sisters and so on as any automatic right.

This is all stated clearly in the immigration guidelines so nobody should really embark on their immigration journey with any impression otherwise although plenty seem to do so. For extended visit stays in the meantime a parent/grandparent super visa may be the way to go.
Yes you are right.
 

umar32085

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DollyM said:
No, the purpose of immigration from the Canadian Government's point of view it to attract skilled people who will contribute to the Canadian tax coffers. Elderly parents do not work or pay as much tax as those who are younger and skilled. They in fact cost the Canadian taxpayer more in medical and care costs. So, in my opinion (as a Canadian) these laws should be more stringent.

Your having 500k to invest is really not relevant to whether your parents should be allowed to migrate. Should someone with less money also be allowed to sponsor their parents? How about people with loads of cash but parents who are severely ill and unable to contribute anything but need constant specialist medical care?
Yes you are correct. But my parents are not old enough and they'll invest this money themselves in Canada and pay tax accordingly. So, they will be contributing to the Canadian economy even more than myself.
 

umar32085

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scylla said:
I believe Australia has an accelerated process for parent sponsorship if you're willing to pay more. Canada does not. You will follow the same rules as everyone else.

It will be at least four years from the time you arrive in Canada before you will be able to enter the lottery to sponsor your parents (and you'll need to give living and working in Canada during those for years to qualify). How long it takes for you to be selected from the lottery is of course something none of us here can predict.

Until then, your parent can try applying for a visitor visa or a super visa (if you meet the requirements) to visit Canada temporarily.
So, basically I need to check the requirements of Super Visa to apply. Thanks a lot VIP Member!