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What is Happening to AINP applying under H1B visa from 2011-2012?

dell

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I believe this sort of documentation in writing was very helpful in obtaining the AINP nomination. Not sure, if you remember when you were filling up the forms they had asked you what you have done specifically to settle/find work in Alberta and had asked for evidences. For most of us that part is actually over since we already have our AINP's.

Now we are dealing with CIC, there is a difference between a FSW ( Federal Skilled Worker ) program and AINP. In the FSW application part, an individual is telling CIC that " I want to come to Canada " where as in an AINP application " Alberta is telling CIC that " Alberta wants individual to come to Canada ".

Roughly about two months ago, Canada had a backlog of 300,000 application who had applied before 2008. Out of the 300,000 they rejected 280,000 as part of clearing their backlog. The 20,000 that they had decided to process were the applicants who were already living and working in Canada.

The best thing we can really do if your really really want to prove CIC of your intent to move to Canada, is to actually move there and get a job on work permit.
 

panamio2000

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Feb 5, 2012
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@ KoolKarmaguy,
It is always interested to see how one way or the other our stories always overlap. Remember, at the end of the day, it is this country loosing great talent and it is Canada securing it. I like the idea of more communication, perhaps we might ended one day with a great community of friends. Count me in, and let me know what information you need for this group.
 

Edmontonbound

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Mar 9, 2012
736
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Visa Office......
CPP-Ottawa
NOC Code......
2142
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
April 10, 2012
Nomination.....
Dec 07, 2011
AOR Received.
May 23, 2012
Med's Request
May 23 2012
Med's Done....
May 29, 2012 In Process.......:May 31, 2013
Passport Req..
Sep 04, 2013
VISA ISSUED...
Sep 03, 2013 PP Received w/ visa Oct 04, 2013
LANDED..........
Oct 18, 2013
dell said:
I believe this sort of documentation in writing was very helpful in obtaining the AINP nomination. Not sure, if you remember when you were filling up the forms they had asked you what you have done specifically to settle/find work in Alberta and had asked for evidences. For most of us that part is actually over since we already have our AINP's.

Now we are dealing with CIC, there is a difference between a FSW ( Federal Skilled Worker ) program and AINP. In the FSW application part, an individual is telling CIC that " I want to come to Canada " where as in an AINP application " Alberta is telling CIC that " Alberta wants individual to come to Canada ".

Roughly about two months ago, Canada had a backlog of 300,000 application who had applied before 2008. Out of the 300,000 they rejected 280,000 as part of clearing their backlog. The 20,000 that they had decided to process were the applicants who were already living and working in Canada.

The best thing we can really do if your really really want to prove CIC of your intent to move to Canada, is to actually move there and get a job on work permit.
I do NOT agree at all. Koolkarmaguy is right. Your application can be rejected. Here is an excerpt from the policy manual for rejections:
The Policy Manuals lay out three grounds upon which a federal visa officer may reject a provincial nominee after the nomination has been made and the application is at the visa office for finalization:
• the officer has reason to believe that the applicant does not intend to live in the province that has nominated them;
• the officer has reason to believe that the applicant is unlikely to be able to successfully establish themselves economically in Canada; or
• the officer has reason to believe that the applicant is participating in, or intends to participate in, an immigration-linked passive investment scheme as defined in the Regulations.

For detailed information, please find the link:
http://www.cba.org/cba/cle/pdf/Ackah_Thomas_Rosenberg.pdf

Hope this helps.
 

Edmontonbound

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Mar 9, 2012
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Visa Office......
CPP-Ottawa
NOC Code......
2142
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
April 10, 2012
Nomination.....
Dec 07, 2011
AOR Received.
May 23, 2012
Med's Request
May 23 2012
Med's Done....
May 29, 2012 In Process.......:May 31, 2013
Passport Req..
Sep 04, 2013
VISA ISSUED...
Sep 03, 2013 PP Received w/ visa Oct 04, 2013
LANDED..........
Oct 18, 2013
Having said that, a Visa officer usually has doubts if the applicant has stronger ties with other provinces. I am not sure in which of the 3 categories Koolkarmaguy's friends fell into. It could be most likely # 2. I am speculating if they failed to provide sufficient evidence for proof of funds. More info should be known to arrive at a conclusion. Or, may be, they have relatives in other provinces (category 1). However, I think a VO will not ask to provide intentions to everybody if there is not sufficient and reasonable doubt.
 

koolkarmaguy

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Jan 26, 2009
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Buffalo
NOC Code......
2141
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
02/08/2010
Nomination.....
12/29/2011
AOR Received.
June 27 2012
Med's Request
June 4 2012
Med's Done....
June 29 2012
Interview........
none. In-process on May 23, 2013.
Passport Req..
September 17 2013
@Edmontonbound : Thanks for keeping us on track with the topic and throwing light on potential reasons for rejections. I am investigating or trying to find out from folks what was the exact reason for rejection.
@Dell: I still don't get your point.. you have just restated facts and please keep your advice to yourself on how to best prove your intent. Everyone knows what you mentioned in your last line.
Everybody here have their own reasons/plans to immigrate to canada. I am not asking your expert opinion for that matter.
Without digressing from the topic and get into confrontational mode..move on for christ's sake. We want to find common synergies in immigrating to canada and educate each other of any potential roadblocks down the way.
I am not trying to lecture you but we can be polite and keep our posts cordial. With this being said..don't wreck if you can't contribute. Thanks in advance. I am not gonna respond any further to your comments or your opinions about this post.
@AINP-H1B's : how does a linkedin group sound? too early? I'd definitely like to do a monthly tele conference..I can get us a dial in number. Also..let us list out any simple but solid approaches to proving our intent..we are just brainstorming here..
 

koolkarmaguy

Star Member
Jan 26, 2009
98
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Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
NOC Code......
2141
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
02/08/2010
Nomination.....
12/29/2011
AOR Received.
June 27 2012
Med's Request
June 4 2012
Med's Done....
June 29 2012
Interview........
none. In-process on May 23, 2013.
Passport Req..
September 17 2013
@Panamio: You are right. You totally got the spirit of what we need to aim for. Just help out each other and who knows..how friendships might turn out into. In this day and age..networking is really key. Better to be armed with information and contacts.
 

dell

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Edmontonbound said:
I do NOT agree at all. Koolkarmaguy is right. Your application can be rejected. Here is an excerpt from the policy manual for rejections:
The Policy Manuals lay out three grounds upon which a federal visa officer may reject a provincial nominee after the nomination has been made and the application is at the visa office for finalization:
• the officer has reason to believe that the applicant does not intend to live in the province that has nominated them;
• the officer has reason to believe that the applicant is unlikely to be able to successfully establish themselves economically in Canada; or
• the officer has reason to believe that the applicant is participating in, or intends to participate in, an immigration-linked passive investment scheme as defined in the Regulations.

For detailed information, please find the link:
http://www.cba.org/cba/cle/pdf/Ackah_Thomas_Rosenberg.pdf

Hope this helps.
I never said AINP is a guarantee, I only said it is better to be a PNP than a FSW. There are not too many things guaranteed in life. If you look at the sheer numbers/statistics you will notice higher number of PNP approvals than FSW.
 

dell

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Jun 27, 2012
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koolkarmaguy said:
@ Dell: I still don't get your point.. you have just restated facts and please keep your advice to yourself on how to best prove your intent. Everyone knows what you mentioned in your last line.
Everybody here have their own reasons/plans to immigrate to canada. I am not asking your expert opinion for that matter.
Just to get the record straight, I did not claim to be an expert. There is no need to imagine that I am an expert. Most of the stuff I posted were things told to me by immigration attorneys and CIC officers.
koolkarmaguy said:
Without digressing from the topic and get into confrontational mode..move on for christ's sake. We want to find common synergies in immigrating to canada and educate each other of any potential roadblocks down the way.
Although this is strong language I have no desire to debate. Also, I am not trying or attempting to be negative, I am only be grounded. Don't worry, I am not going to respond to any more of your posts and appreciate if you do the same.
koolkarmaguy said:
I am not trying to lecture you but we can be polite and keep our posts cordial. With this being said..don't wreck if you can't contribute. Thanks in advance. I am not gonna respond any further to your comments or your opinions about this post.
I have only one word - "Peace" !
 

panamio2000

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Feb 5, 2012
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@Dell and Koolguy
Let's chill out guys, we are all pursuing the same cause. The idea is to found our common grounds to strength our immigration process. Let us hit the reset button and start again.
 

Edmontonbound

Hero Member
Mar 9, 2012
736
8
Category........
Visa Office......
CPP-Ottawa
NOC Code......
2142
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
April 10, 2012
Nomination.....
Dec 07, 2011
AOR Received.
May 23, 2012
Med's Request
May 23 2012
Med's Done....
May 29, 2012 In Process.......:May 31, 2013
Passport Req..
Sep 04, 2013
VISA ISSUED...
Sep 03, 2013 PP Received w/ visa Oct 04, 2013
LANDED..........
Oct 18, 2013
panamio2000 said:
Has anybody heard anything from CIO or Ottawa??
It's been quiet all along. No movements of files at all. All USA applicants are stuck for some weird reason. Initially, I though it would be easy for CIC to check security, criminality & background of the US applicants. But, apparently, it's not the case. Delay, due to transferring of Buffalo files, looks like a plausible
excuse. I'm not sure when we're going to hear, if anything, at all!
 

koolkarmaguy

Star Member
Jan 26, 2009
98
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Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
NOC Code......
2141
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
02/08/2010
Nomination.....
12/29/2011
AOR Received.
June 27 2012
Med's Request
June 4 2012
Med's Done....
June 29 2012
Interview........
none. In-process on May 23, 2013.
Passport Req..
September 17 2013
Bro.. you are next in line after Believing. Don't worry. Tera number aayegaa baba..aayegaa.. :)
 

panamio2000

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Feb 5, 2012
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In process...

Hey guys, my e-cas now says In process, when I click it it reads: "We started processing your application on July 20, 2012." Ottawa contact me via e-mail about my police certificates, they needed originals. I just sent them. Hopefully this is it guys...Finally, a light at the end of the tunnel. Let's cross our fingers.
 

sarayu

Champion Member
Jun 10, 2012
1,586
59
Category........
Visa Office......
CPP Ottawa
NOC Code......
2132
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
15-Nov-2012
Nomination.....
29-Mar-2012 Nomination Extn: 28-Sep-2012
AOR Received.
13-Jan-2013
Med's Request
16-Jan-2013
Med's Done....
25-Jan-2013 ECAS "Med Rec": 21-Mar-2013 In Process: 05-Sep-2013 Decision Made: 05-Oct-2013
Passport Req..
07-Oct-2013 & 20-Feb-2014
VISA ISSUED...
20-Feb-2014
LANDED..........
10-Mar-2014
Re: In process...

panamio2000 said:
Hey guys, my e-cas now says In process, when I click it it reads: "We started processing your application on July 20, 2012." Ottawa contact me via e-mail about my police certificates, they needed originals. I just sent them. Hopefully this is it guys...Finally, a light at the end of the tunnel. Let's cross our fingers.
Hi panamio2000,

Good to see your post....one more step ahead...didn't you know they need original PCCs? any way you sent them...good luck dude.

Thanks,
Sarayu
 

bkd1969

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Re: In process...

panamio2000 said:
Hey guys, my e-cas now says In process, when I click it it reads: "We started processing your application on July 20, 2012." Ottawa contact me via e-mail about my police certificates, they needed originals. I just sent them. Hopefully this is it guys...Finally, a light at the end of the tunnel. Let's cross our fingers.
1. blessed;
2. why they ask your police certificate again? did not you give them original fbi in jan 2012? it is good for 1 year.