What Am i doing wrong?

[maged_mmh]

Um, yeah - but as I explained before, there are two ways to get 50 points. One is combining your education with the language test results, as you correctly say. But the other way is to combine your education with your Canadian work experience.

What Maria is saying is that she meets the criteria for receiving 50 points based on her education and her Canadian work experience. So the language test results are not relevant for this.

If you read the link that you posted carefully, you will see that this is how it works.

there are actually five ways rather than two (first 2 with max of 50 each if applying with two degrees, latter 2 with max 50 each; overall max for all combined 100pts):

1- Education With good official language proficiency: score depends on CLB (with CLB 9 required in all 4 abilities to get max points)

2- Education With Canadian work experience: (2 years required for max points)

3- Foreign work experience With good official language proficiency: score depends on CLB and 3 years foreign experience for max points (with CLB 9 required in all 4 abilities to get max points)

4- Foreign work experience With Canadian work experience: 2 years Canadian + 3 years Foreign required for max points

the fifth way is only applicable to trade occupations

 

[Dexmoody]

there are actually five ways rather than two (first 2 with max of 25 each if applying with just one degree, latter 2 with max 50 each; overall max for all combined 100pts):

1- Education With good official language proficiency: score depends on CLB (with CLB 9 required in all 4 abilities to get max points)

2- Education With Canadian work experience: (2 years required for max points)

3- Foreign work experience With good official language proficiency: score depends on CLB and 3 years foreign experience for max points (with CLB 9 required in all 4 abilities to get max points)

4- Foreign work experience With Canadian work experience: 2 years Canadian + 3 years Foreign required for max points

the fifth way is only applicable to trade occupations

Sure, you can count it that way too. But notice that the first two refer to education, and the second two refer to foreign work experience.

What is important for Maria is that you will only get maximum 50 points for 1+2 combined, and 50 points max for 3+4 combined.

So I'm trying to find out if she has already achieved the maximum, which could potentially explain why she doesn't receive the maximum under the combination she's looking at. It's a common problem and has happened to a number of other forum members before.

 

[maged_mmh]

Sure, you can count it that way too. But notice that the first two refer to education, and the second two refer to foreign work experience.

What is important for Maria is that you will only get maximum 50 points for 1+2 combined, and 50 points max for 3+4 combined.

So I'm trying to find out if she has already achieved the maximum, which could potentially explain why she doesn't receive the maximum under the combination she's looking at. It's a common problem and has happened to a number of other forum members before.

Exactly!

so the only way I could see it, and as she pointed out, that she is short on the language speaking ability as she didn't make it to CLB9 yet.

if she tries to secures that (CLB 9 or above in all language abilities) she will get 50 for #1 instead of 25

 

[maged_mmh]

BTW I got max pts 100 for 3+4 combined - no Canadian experience

 

[Dexmoody]

BTW I got max pts 100 for 3+4 combined - no Canadian experience

No, you would've gotten max 100 for 1 and 3

 

[maged_mmh]

No, you would've gotten max 100 for 1 and 3

nope

never been to Canada all my life, but I have a masters


EDIT: Oops! yes, you're right ;D

 

[maria_786]

Maria,

Please go to your EE profile where it lists the status.

There is a points break-down there where it lists all the points given to you by the system.

Please copy and past this to this thread.

It should look something like this:

Federal Skilled Worker Not Met
Provincial Nominee Program Not Met
Canadian Experience Class Met
Federal Skilled Trades Not Met
Overall Score 463
CRS - Human Capital - Age 110
CRS - Human Capital - Level of Education 128
CRS - Human Capital - First Official Language Proficiency 122
CRS - Human Capital - Second Official Language Proficiency 0
CRS - Human Capital - Canadian Work Experience 53
CRS - Spouse - Level of Education 0
CRS - Spouse - First Official Language Proficiency 0
CRS - Spouse - Canadian Work Experience 0
CRS - Skill Transferability - Education 50
CRS - Skill Transferability - Foreign Work Experience 0
CRS - Skill Transferability - Certificate of Qualification 0
CRS - Arranged Employment 0
CRS - Provincial/Territorial Nomination 0

 

[Dexmoody]

Federal Skilled Worker Not Met
Provincial Nominee Program Not Met
Canadian Experience Class Met
Federal Skilled Trades Not Met
Overall Score 463
CRS - Human Capital - Age 110
CRS - Human Capital - Level of Education 128
CRS - Human Capital - First Official Language Proficiency 122
CRS - Human Capital - Second Official Language Proficiency 0
CRS - Human Capital - Canadian Work Experience 53
CRS - Spouse - Level of Education 0
CRS - Spouse - First Official Language Proficiency 0
CRS - Spouse - Canadian Work Experience 0
CRS - Skill Transferability - Education 50
CRS - Skill Transferability - Foreign Work Experience 0
CRS - Skill Transferability - Certificate of Qualification 0
CRS - Arranged Employment 0
CRS - Provincial/Territorial Nomination 0

So there you go. You already have 50 points for skill transferability - education. You can't get more than that.

Do you have foreign work experience? If not, than you have maxed out your points for skill transferability.

 

[maria_786]

So there you go. You already have 50 points for skill transferability - education. You can't get more than that.

Do you have foreign work experience? If not, than you have maxed out your points for skill transferability.

no i dont have any foreign experience, but i thought one can get 100 points max :s i should have 75 not 50, m still confused . since i have celpip 7 in all leve 4 n 2 or more diplomas i should get 25 points for that n then for with 2 yrs of cdn exp and 2 or more diplomas 50 so together it should be 75?


With good/strong official languages proficiency and a post-secondary degree
With Canadian work experience and a post-secondary degree

 

[Dexmoody]

no i dont have any foreign experience, but i thought one can get 100 points max :s i should have 75 not 50, m still confused . since i have celpip 7 in all leve 4 n 2 or more diplomas i should get 25 points for that n then for with 2 yrs of cdn exp and 2 or more diplomas 50 so together it should be 75?


With good/strong official languages proficiency and a post-secondary degree
With Canadian work experience and a post-secondary degree

No, you interpret it incorrectly.

There are two factors for skills transferability:

1) One is education plus either language scores or Canadian work experience. That sub-section is capped at 50 points max. You already have the max.

2) The other one is foreign work experience plus either language scores or Canadian work experience. That sub-section is also capped at 50 points max, but it doesn't apply to you because you don't have any foreign work experience.

Hence, you only receive 50 points, not 100. The points you have been allocated are correct.

Please look at this link and scroll to section C in the summary table. It clearly says that is is capped at 50 points per factor:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/express-entry/grid-crs.asp

 

[maria_786]

No, you interpret it incorrectly.

There are two factors for skills transferability:

1) One is education plus either language scores or Canadian work experience. That sub-section is capped at 50 points max. You already have the max.

2) The other one is foreign work experience plus either language scores or Canadian work experience. That sub-section is also capped at 50 points max, but it doesn't apply to you because you don't have any foreign work experience.

Hence, you only receive 50 points, not 100. The points you have been allocated are correct.


Please look at this link and scroll to section C in the summary table. It clearly says that is is capped at 50 points per factor:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/express-entry/grid-crs.asp

thanks for the input.. i still dont get it :$ :$ i dont knw y its so confusing the way points r listed

 

[Dexmoody]

thanks for the input.. i still dont get it :$ :$ i dont knw y its so confusing the way points r listed

Okay. One more attempt.

- I am 100% certain that the maximum points for skills transferability without foreign work experience (and without a certificate of qualification, which is applicable to trade occupations only) is 50 points. It is not 100 points.

- If you want to go really deep, see below for the official ministerial instructions guiding the CRS system. This is the relevant legal text. I have marked the relevant paragraphs for you.

Hope it is clear now. Unfortunately, there are no additional points for you under skills transferability.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/mi/express-entry.asp

"Combination of level of education and official language proficiency

21. (1) The points that are to be assigned for a combination of the level of education of a foreign national and their proficiency in their first official language, according to their benchmark level as assessed in that language under the Canadian Language Benchmarks or the Niveaux de compétence linguistique canadiens, are the following:

(a) 0 points, if the foreign national has a secondary school credential, regardless of their proficiency in their first official language;
(b) 13 points, if the foreign national has a post-secondary program credential of one or more years and is assessed overall in their first official language at level 7 on all language skill areas, with one or more areas assessed at less than level 9;
(c) 25 points, if the foreign national has a post-secondary program credential of one or more years and is assessed in their first official language at level 9 or higher on all language skill areas;
(d) 25 points, if the foreign national has two or more post-secondary program credentials, one of which was issued on completion of a postsecondary program of three years or more, and is assessed overall in their first official language at level 7 on all language skill areas, with one or more areas assessed at less than level 9; and
(e) 50 points, if the foreign national has two or more post-secondary program credentials, one of which was issued on completion of a postsecondary program of three years or more, and is assessed in their first official language at level 9 or higher on all language skill areas.

Highest level of education

(2) Points are to be assigned under subsection (1) for the highest level of post-secondary education obtained.
Clarification — level of education

(3) Subsections 11(3) and (5) apply in respect of the level of education referred to in subsection (1), with any necessary modifications.
Clarification — official language proficiency

(4) Subsections 12(1) to (4) apply in respect of proficiency in a first official language referred to in subsection (1), with any necessary modifications.
Combination of level of education and Canadian work experience

22. (1) The points that are to be assigned for a combination of the level of education of a foreign national and their Canadian work experience are the following:

(a) 0 points, if the foreign national has a secondary school credential, regardless of their Canadian work experience;
(b) 13 points, if the foreign national has a post-secondary program credential of one year or more and one year of Canadian work experience;
(c) 25 points, if the foreign national has a post-secondary program credential of one year or more and two or more years of Canadian work experience;
(d) 25 points, if the foreign national has two or more post-secondary program credentials, one of which was issued on completion of a post-secondary program of three years or more, and one year of Canadian work experience; and
(e) 50 points, if the foreign national has two or more post-secondary program credentials, one of which was issued on completion of a post-secondary program of three years or more, and two or more years of Canadian work experience.

Highest level of education

(2) Points are to be assigned under subsection (1) for the highest level of post-secondary education obtained.

Points may be combined

(3) The points assigned under subsections 21(1) and 22(1) may be combined for a maximum total of 50 points."