WES Spouse

[jpfyoung]

Does anyone know if you still have to get WES evaluation for spouse if she only has up to a secondary school education? I know the $270 isn't worth it for just 2 points, so was just checking. She has actually completed college too. But would have to request documents from the UK for this, which would be an additional $200, so it certainly isn't worth $470 for just the 6 points.

 

[jpfyoung]

Just to add, the chances of her getting either sent in a sealed envelope are very slim. So guessing that she wouldn't be able to get them assessed anyway?

 

[jpfyoung]

Could anyone tell me the equivalent to High School in Canada is. Is that secondary school in England and then college in England would be the equivalent to "Two-year program at a university, college, trade or technical in school, or other institute"?

Its confusing here how school works. My spouse has done her A Level's, but I am not sure the equivalent.

Lastly, does anyone know if the fee is per person, or can I send my spouse's details in at the same time and it will be cheaper? I presume that it would save on the postage fee as they would send them both together at least?

 

[karenn1617]

Does anyone know if you still have to get WES evaluation for spouse if she only has up to a secondary school education? I know the $270 isn't worth it for just 2 points, so was just checking. She has actually completed college too. But would have to request documents from the UK for this, which would be an additional $200, so it certainly isn't worth $470 for just the 6 points.

Logically NO if you are able to make enough points - over 430 - for playing on safer side.

Just to add, the chances of her getting either sent in a sealed envelope are very slim. So guessing that she wouldn't be able to get them assessed anyway?

Without sealed envelope with proper stamping and signature, WES never accept the document and asked you to submit again, which is again a waste of time.

Could anyone tell me the equivalent to High School in Canada is. Is that secondary school in England and then college in England would be the equivalent to "Two-year program at a university, college, trade or technical in school, or other institute"?

Its confusing here how school works. My spouse has done her A Level's, but I am not sure the equivalent.

For checking the equivalents, try using the WES tool at https://www.wes.org/ca/preliminary/poe.asp

Lastly, does anyone know if the fee is per person, or can I send my spouse's details in at the same time and it will be cheaper? I presume that it would save on the postage fee as they would send them both together at least?

Yes, the fee is for per person while say if you send the two person document TOGETHER, then they will reject directly as WES accept per application, one person only.

Hope the answer helps.

K

 

[karenn1617]

Hey,

Although two more options are there but again they got same conditions that university mail them directly.

Can you please share your university name and country where it is based.

K

 

[jpfyoung]

I went to university in the UK. My university have been very helpful regarding the matter, WES have not.

I am not sure how they would know whether it has come from my university or not?

 

[karenn1617]

Check this if this will be helpful to you http://www.wes.org/required/digitaryinstructions.asp?instid=0553 while this is strange that UK university can't send directly to WES. What's the university name?

 

[Asivad Anac]

Thanks Karenn!

Is there an alternative to using WES? I emailed them and they said the transcripts have to come directly from my University. I have emailed my university who clearly state that they will not send transcripts to third parties. But they are perfectly happy to send the sealed envelope to me to forward to WES.

I find WES are just being a bit difficult about this. Not sure if there is an alternative?

It is completely acceptable for you to receive the sealed envelope from your University and then put that into a larger envelope at your end, superscribe that with your WES reference number and send it out to WES.

All the best!

 

[jpfyoung]

It is completely acceptable for you to receive the sealed envelope from your University and then put that into a larger envelope at your end, superscribe that with your WES reference number and send it out to WES.

All the best!

Thanks Asivad. Have you done this? On their website it says it has to be sent directly from my university and I was reading another thread where someone said that you can't do it.

Thanks for your help!

 

[Asivad Anac]

Thanks Asivad. Have you done this? On their website it says it has to be sent directly from my university and I was reading another thread where someone said that you can't do it.

Thanks for your help!

Quite a few forum members have reported doing it successfully this way.

But WES has different rules for UK on their site (http://www.wes.org/ca/required/index.asp). That sucks! I guess you have no other option but to request your University to do this for you.

 

[noesis]

I know. My university won't do it though, so not sure of my options. Its not uncommon for universities to not do this, so not sure why WES insist on it. Its a little unfair if they won't assess my university degree. Especially as it was already assessed by my university in Canada before I started my university degree here. One of the requirements of the certificate I did was that you had to have a Bachelor's degree to be accepted on the course (I did a postgraduate certificate).

I would recommend sending your university one last request saying that you would be prepared to provide a letter authorizing the release of your transcripts directly to WES in order to comply with immigration procedure (and cover any associated costs if necessary). If not, ask them if they are at least willing to complete the WES authorization form, sign and seal it and send it along with your transcript but note that they cannot and will not send it to WES directly and therefore have sent it to you, and that the transcript should only be considered valid if the seal on the envelope isn't broken.

If and when your university declines, you will have no option but to send WES a copy of the correspondence and inform them that this university refuses to release transcripts to a third party and give them a contact at the university (it is in their best interest to either communicate with the university in question or at least list it as one that refuses to send transcripts). You can then point out to the fact that WES has a conflicting policy wherein it allows transcripts to be sent from applicants from some universities in a sealed envelope and your university only allows for this. Finally, keep copies of all of this correspondence and send it to CIC either in the letter of explanation or as a separate inquiry.

I have heard, but do not encourage/condone/recommend, that some people have worked around this situation by asking someone to send the transcript from the same city as the university. I personally believe that this is a dodgy alternative, but your university has put you in an awkward position, not WES. These are your transcripts, and if you are prepared to sign a release authorizing them to send them directly to a third party to ensure their credentials and rule out fraud, they should be willing to work with you.

 

[jpfyoung]

Thanks for your advice.

I have emailed my university again. They are very helpful about the whole situation too be honest. But its just one of their policies that they have. I know a few other universities in the UK seem to have a similar policy. It might sound like a simple request, but it seems like one of them "you'll do as we say" type requests, where they want my university to bend over backwards for them. If it's in a sealed envelope, I am not sure why it specifically has to be sent from my university. They'll just be doing the same as me, sealing it and sending it in an envelope..

 

[Ibyt]

Tbh, I'm quite surprised that a UK university will not send transcript to a third party. Ideally, a transcript should only be sent to any "formal" organisation that requests for it.

I requested for my transcript from The University of Birmingham and WES received it in 5 working days. So you might want to speak to them again and tell them you will pay for any mailing costs. In case that is what they are avoiding.