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deepocan

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slingshot_fuel said:
The strike would have no discernible influence on the processing time in regards to the criminality/background checks. These checks are outsourced and are not being completed by CIC.

I can also imagine that this is the reason for the batch-type PPR's coming down the pipeline in the past. It is highly possible that CIC issues 'batches' of applications to the third party criminality/background check agency instead of submitting single files. The responses from the agency with approval/denials of these background checks may also be sent back to CIC in a 'batch' system. In summary, our individual files MAY be delayed due to the processing delays of other applications.

Also, the strike has NO effect on PR applications. The foreign service workers (PAFSO) that are striking are only in charge of Visa processing. If CIC workers (PSAC - Employment and Immigration) were to strike, it would be a different story. So, everybody that is continually mentioning the ongoing strike, should completely ignore this issue since it has negligible (if any) effect on our PR applications.
You may be right. I thought CIC sends PCC to their local embassy to verify it and if they do then this strike may cause some delay.
 

juan74

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Also, the strike has NO effect on PR applications. The foreign service workers (PAFSO) that are striking are only in charge of Visa processing. If CIC workers (PSAC - Employment and Immigration) were to strike, it would be a different story. So, everybody that is continually mentioning the ongoing strike, should completely ignore this issue since it has negligible (if any) effect on our PR applications.


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if the strike has no effect on pr applications..how do you explain that a lot of people have DECISION MADE but are waiting for PPR's for a long time.
people are sending emails to ccp-ottawa requesting update on decision made status and cic is not responding...
 

InfoSeeker12

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slingshot_fuel said:
The strike would have no discernible influence on the processing time in regards to the criminality/background checks. These checks are outsourced and are not being completed by CIC.

I can also imagine that this is the reason for the batch-type PPR's coming down the pipeline in the past. It is highly possible that CIC issues 'batches' of applications to the third party criminality/background check agency instead of submitting single files. The responses from the agency with approval/denials of these background checks may also be sent back to CIC in a 'batch' system. In summary, our individual files MAY be delayed due to the processing delays of other applications.

Also, the strike has NO effect on PR applications. The foreign service workers (PAFSO) that are striking are only in charge of Visa processing. If CIC workers (PSAC - Employment and Immigration) were to strike, it would be a different story. So, everybody that is continually mentioning the ongoing strike, should completely ignore this issue since it has negligible (if any) effect on our PR applications.

Hi Slingshot. Informative post. But im not sure where you got the info that CIC staff are under PSAC?
I checked the list of all bargaining units that subscribe to this federal labour union PSAC and CIC is not in that list.

Could you please take a look at the link below and help me find CIC or any other immigration dept. subscribed to PSAC. Many thanks,

http://www.psac-afpc.com/bargaining/units/alpha-e.shtml#I
 

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alexpritie said:
Is it fine to pay RPRF in advance
It is absolutely fine to pay RPRF in advance but it really does not speed up your app process. You can really wait till you the request since its takes just a minute to go online and pay the fee. decision is urs..
 

slingshot_fuel

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juan74 said:
Also, the strike has NO effect on PR applications. The foreign service workers (PAFSO) that are striking are only in charge of Visa processing. If CIC workers (PSAC - Employment and Immigration) were to strike, it would be a different story. So, everybody that is continually mentioning the ongoing strike, should completely ignore this issue since it has negligible (if any) effect on our PR applications.




if the strike has no effect on pr applications..how do you explain that a lot of people have DECISION MADE but are waiting for PPR's for a long time.
people are sending emails to ccp-ottawa requesting update on decision made status and cic is not responding...
I am looking at this from a much different perspective. From my subjective view, once a decision is made, the process is complete (ie: you have either been approved or denied for PR), and your worries and anxiety should dissipate. Of course, there are situations that greatly inconvenience applicants that are simply waiting for the PPR in order to move forward with their lives (the majority of applicants do not have this particular issue). To qualify the above statement, I do not consider a delayed request for an applicant's passport significant if, and only if, that applicant has received notice that a decision has been made.

Notwithstanding the previous, you make a great point that I completely failed to consider while posting my comment. If one has or has not received a 'decision made' notice, and the PPR has been requested, I can only speculate that the ongoing strike would delay the passport processing. Again, you and I are making an unwarranted assumption that only Foreign Officers are able to process our passports. It may be true that there is a specialized sub-group within the Ottawa Permanent Residency office that have the full authority and training to do the same; however, we do not know this (unless you have evidence to prove me wrong).

In response to your comment regarding the long time delays in answering requests/clarification made by applicants, I can only tell you that this is normal. We are dealing with the government and delays are and have to be fully expected.

Another extremely important item to consider is this: Each time an applicant poses a question to CIC, a processing officer would be tasked to respond to his/her question. Please imagine the inner workings of any organization; this person is now forced to take your application (including all of the documents necessary to appropriately answer the applicant's question thoroughly) away from the desk and/or ordered file where it is currently residing. That applicant's application may have been inadvertently delayed by a great deal of time (of course, the time delay depends on the question intricacy and/or the motivation of the processing officer tasked in answering the applicant's question), since it was removed from the usual processing 'assembly line'. We should all be very scrupulous in deciding to write CIC regarding our ongoing application, unless there is an absolute necessity to do so. If something is wrong with an application, they will get a hold of you! Of course, common sense should prevail when the ECAS system hasn't been updated to reflect a completed medical (I would definitely consider this to be a situation that would give rise to write an email to CIC). Although, in my opinion, requesting your application notes would be a much better approach since you would leave your application alone and not inadvertently delay it (by removing it from the usual processing line).

Please keep in mind that the above are my personal opinions, assumptions, and comments. Although I have read and researched extensively about the PR process, I am not 100% on some of them.
 

slingshot_fuel

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InfoSeeker12 said:
Hi Slingshot. Informative post. But im not sure where you got the info that CIC staff are under PSAC?
I checked the list of all bargaining units that subscribe to this federal labour union PSAC and CIC is not in that list.

Could you please take a look at the link below and help me find CIC or any other immigration dept. subscribed to PSAC. Many thanks,

I tried to post a direct link but am unable to do so (not allowed on this website... how did you do it??). Please GOOGLE "PSAC Employment and Immigration" and click the link titled "Components | PSAC - Public Service Alliance of Canada".

3rd item from the top is "Canada Employment and Immigration Union".
 

juan74

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slingshot_fuel said:
I am looking at this from a much different perspective. From my subjective view, once a decision is made, the process is complete (ie: you have either been approved or denied for PR), and your worries and anxiety should dissipate. Of course, there are situations that greatly inconvenience applicants that are simply waiting for the PPR in order to move forward with their lives (the majority of applicants do not have this particular issue). To qualify the above statement, I do not consider a delayed request for an applicant's passport significant if, and only if, that applicant has received notice that a decision has been made.

Notwithstanding the previous, you make a great point that I completely failed to consider while posting my comment. If one has or has not received a 'decision made' notice, and the PPR has been requested, I can only speculate that the ongoing strike would delay the passport processing. Again, you and I are making an unwarranted assumption that only Foreign Officers are able to process our passports. It may be true that there is a specialized sub-group within the Ottawa Permanent Residency office that have the full authority and training to do the same; however, we do not know this (unless you have evidence to prove me wrong).

In response to your comment regarding the long time delays in answering requests/clarification made by applicants, I can only tell you that this is normal. We are dealing with the government and delays are and have to be fully expected.

Another extremely important item to consider is this: Each time an applicant poses a question to CIC, a processing officer would be tasked to respond to his/her question. Please imagine the inner workings of any organization; this person is now forced to take your application (including all of the documents necessary to appropriately answer the applicant's question thoroughly) away from the desk and/or ordered file where it is currently residing. That applicant's application may have been inadvertently delayed by a great deal of time (of course, the time delay depends on the question intricacy and/or the motivation of the processing officer tasked in answering the applicant's question), since it was removed from the usual processing 'assembly line'. We should all be very scrupulous in deciding to write CIC regarding our ongoing application, unless there is an absolute necessity to do so. If something is wrong with an application, they will get a hold of you! Of course, common sense should prevail when the ECAS system hasn't been updated to reflect a completed medical (I would definitely consider this to be a situation that would give rise to write an email to CIC). Although, in my opinion, requesting your application notes would be a much better approach since you would leave your application alone and not inadvertently delay it (by removing it from the usual processing line).

Please keep in mind that the above are my personal opinions, assumptions, and comments. Although I have read and researched extensively about the PR process, I am not 100% on some of them.
i am totally agreed with you ..we dealing with government and delays and slow process is totally normal..
but looks like ccp-ottawa is finishing cases and put it on hold for passports request and people like me after 18 months waiting of course i want to knows what is the result.
if at least they reply email with a "your application is been approved please wait for instruccions" instead a painful wait...
 

InfoSeeker12

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slingshot_fuel said:
I tried to post a direct link but am unable to do so (not allowed on this website... how did you do it??). Please GOOGLE "PSAC Employment and Immigration" and click the link titled "Components | PSAC - Public Service Alliance of Canada".

3rd item from the top is "Canada Employment and Immigration Union".
Yep got it. http://www.psac-afpc.com/components/components-e.shtml

Thanks.
 

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slingshot_fuel said:
I have tried everything! I even attempted to log in using my Application number (I used my Client ID number since February 2012 to check my ECAS status). I am using the EXACT SAME login information as I have been using successfully for over 15 months.... I am completely clueless as to why the system is responding by telling me that my data cannot be verified all of a sudden. This login problem just started happening after the website update. It NEVER occurred prior to the website refresh.
I hope you are entering your DOB in the desired format i.e MM-DD-YYYY as opposed to the the earlier version that had the DD-MM-YYYY format.