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Mir_Khan

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Jul 10, 2023
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Hi
Today I got notified that my visitor visa application has been rejected with the following reasons:

Thank you for your interest in coming to Canada. I have reviewed your temporary resident visa (visitor visa) application and supporting documentation to assess whether you meet the requirements for a visitor visa (https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/visit-canada/eligibility.html). This includes assessing whether you are coming to Canada temporarily for the reason(s) you describe in your application. I have determined that your application does not meet the requirements of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act (IRPA) (https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/I-2.5/index.html) and Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations (IRPR) (https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/sor-2002-227/index.html). I am refusing your application.

  • I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as required by paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR (https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-2002-227/section-179.html). I am refusing your application because you have not established that you will leave Canada, based on the following factors:
  • Your assets and financial situation are insufficient to support the stated purpose of travel for yourself (and any accompanying family member(s), if applicable).
  • The purpose of your visit to Canada is not consistent with a temporary stay given the details you have provided in your application.

Below are my details:

Purpose of visit: Drop off an elderly family friend who has a super visa and also visit historical places in Canada. Invitation letter from the family who are Canadian citizens. My host family also provided a notorized affidavit supporting my travel and temporary stay in Canada.

Duration of the visit mentioned in the applicaiton : 40 days.

Method of Applicaiton: Online using GC Key.

Proof of funds: Family friends showed $150K in Canadian bank deposits (savings accounts). I also showed funds in the home country bank account for $20K. My host family showed CRA Notice of Assessment for preceeding three years. Pay statements for the last six months, and employment letter from their job. My host has a high paying stable job and working for the same company in Canada for 4+years.

Ties to the home country: Has a wife and real estate business in my country of residence. My parents and other family members (brothers/sisters/wife's family etc) back home. My two brothers and their families are New Zealand citizens.

Previous travel history: Traveled to UAE & Saudi Arabia in the past. Also has business expired visas for Malaysia and China but never visted these two countries. My host family applied for GCMS notes and waiting to receive it.

So, I would really appreicate if members in this forum can help us better understand the reasons for rejection and some suggestions to address these issues if we decide to re apply.
 

Naturgrl

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Apr 5, 2020
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Hi
Today I got notified that my visitor visa application has been rejected with the following reasons:

Thank you for your interest in coming to Canada. I have reviewed your temporary resident visa (visitor visa) application and supporting documentation to assess whether you meet the requirements for a visitor visa (https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/visit-canada/eligibility.html). This includes assessing whether you are coming to Canada temporarily for the reason(s) you describe in your application. I have determined that your application does not meet the requirements of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act (IRPA) (https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/I-2.5/index.html) and Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations (IRPR) (https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/sor-2002-227/index.html). I am refusing your application.

  • I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as required by paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR (https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-2002-227/section-179.html). I am refusing your application because you have not established that you will leave Canada, based on the following factors:
  • Your assets and financial situation are insufficient to support the stated purpose of travel for yourself (and any accompanying family member(s), if applicable).
  • The purpose of your visit to Canada is not consistent with a temporary stay given the details you have provided in your application.

Below are my details:

Purpose of visit: Drop off an elderly family friend who has a super visa and also visit historical places in Canada. Invitation letter from the family who are Canadian citizens. My host family also provided a notorized affidavit supporting my travel and temporary stay in Canada.

Duration of the visit mentioned in the applicaiton : 40 days.

Method of Applicaiton: Online using GC Key.

Proof of funds: Family friends showed $150K in Canadian bank deposits (savings accounts). I also showed funds in the home country bank account for $20K. My host family showed CRA Notice of Assessment for preceeding three years. Pay statements for the last six months, and employment letter from their job. My host has a high paying stable job and working for the same company in Canada for 4+years.

Ties to the home country: Has a wife and real estate business in my country of residence. My parents and other family members (brothers/sisters/wife's family etc) back home. My two brothers and their families are New Zealand citizens.

Previous travel history: Traveled to UAE & Saudi Arabia in the past. Also has business expired visas for Malaysia and China but never visted these two countries. My host family applied for GCMS notes and waiting to receive it.

So, I would really appreicate if members in this forum can help us better understand the reasons for rejection and some suggestions to address these issues if we decide to re apply.
Your friends funds are not relevant nor are their jobs and income. They are not family so cannot fund your visit. $20k for a 40 day visit is not enough. Two weeks maybe as you need to show that you can afford to come to Canada without using all your savings. If you have a spouse and all you have is $20k then using all savings. Your parents and siblings are not ties. Ties are a job, business, investments, properties. Travel history would be to the UK, US, NZ and AUS.
 
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Raptor33

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May 10, 2020
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Hi
Today I got notified that my visitor visa application has been rejected with the following reasons:

Thank you for your interest in coming to Canada. I have reviewed your temporary resident visa (visitor visa) application and supporting documentation to assess whether you meet the requirements for a visitor visa (https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/visit-canada/eligibility.html). This includes assessing whether you are coming to Canada temporarily for the reason(s) you describe in your application. I have determined that your application does not meet the requirements of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act (IRPA) (https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/I-2.5/index.html) and Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations (IRPR) (https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/sor-2002-227/index.html). I am refusing your application.

  • I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as required by paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR (https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-2002-227/section-179.html). I am refusing your application because you have not established that you will leave Canada, based on the following factors:
  • Your assets and financial situation are insufficient to support the stated purpose of travel for yourself (and any accompanying family member(s), if applicable).
  • The purpose of your visit to Canada is not consistent with a temporary stay given the details you have provided in your application.

Below are my details:

Purpose of visit: Drop off an elderly family friend who has a super visa and also visit historical places in Canada. Invitation letter from the family who are Canadian citizens. My host family also provided a notorized affidavit supporting my travel and temporary stay in Canada.

Duration of the visit mentioned in the applicaiton : 40 days.

Method of Applicaiton: Online using GC Key.

Proof of funds: Family friends showed $150K in Canadian bank deposits (savings accounts). I also showed funds in the home country bank account for $20K. My host family showed CRA Notice of Assessment for preceeding three years. Pay statements for the last six months, and employment letter from their job. My host has a high paying stable job and working for the same company in Canada for 4+years.

Ties to the home country: Has a wife and real estate business in my country of residence. My parents and other family members (brothers/sisters/wife's family etc) back home. My two brothers and their families are New Zealand citizens.

Previous travel history: Traveled to UAE & Saudi Arabia in the past. Also has business expired visas for Malaysia and China but never visted these two countries. My host family applied for GCMS notes and waiting to receive it.

So, I would really appreicate if members in this forum can help us better understand the reasons for rejection and some suggestions to address these issues if we decide to re apply.
I'm sorry to hear that your visitor visa application has been rejected. Here are some possible reasons for the rejection and suggestions on how to address them if you decide to reapply:
  • Insufficient proof of funds. The visa officer may have found that the amount of money you showed in your bank accounts was not enough to support your stay in Canada for 40 days. You could try to reapply with more evidence of your financial resources, such as a letter from your employer stating your salary, or a copy of your recent tax returns.
  • Purpose of visit not consistent with a temporary stay. The visa officer may have found that your stated purpose of visiting Canada, to drop off an elderly family friend and visit historical places, was not consistent with a temporary stay. You could try to reapply by clarifying your purpose of visit and providing more evidence that you have strong ties to your home country, such as a copy of your property deed or a letter from your employer stating that you are required to return to work after your trip.
Here are some additional tips for reapplying for a visitor visa:
  • Make sure your application is complete and accurate. Double-check all of your paperwork to make sure that you have included all of the required documents and that your information is correct.
  • Address the reasons for your previous rejection. In your new application, be sure to address the reasons why your previous application was rejected. Explain how you have addressed these issues and why you are now confident that you will meet the requirements for a visitor visa.
  • Be patient. The processing time for visitor visa applications can vary, so be patient and wait for a decision from IRCC.
I hope this helps!
 
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tommy_2k23

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May 10, 2023
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Hi
Today I got notified that my visitor visa application has been rejected with the following reasons:

Thank you for your interest in coming to Canada. I have reviewed your temporary resident visa (visitor visa) application and supporting documentation to assess whether you meet the requirements for a visitor visa (https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/visit-canada/eligibility.html). This includes assessing whether you are coming to Canada temporarily for the reason(s) you describe in your application. I have determined that your application does not meet the requirements of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act (IRPA) (https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/I-2.5/index.html) and Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations (IRPR) (https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/sor-2002-227/index.html). I am refusing your application.

  • I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as required by paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR (https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-2002-227/section-179.html). I am refusing your application because you have not established that you will leave Canada, based on the following factors:
  • Your assets and financial situation are insufficient to support the stated purpose of travel for yourself (and any accompanying family member(s), if applicable).
  • The purpose of your visit to Canada is not consistent with a temporary stay given the details you have provided in your application.

Below are my details:

Purpose of visit: Drop off an elderly family friend who has a super visa and also visit historical places in Canada. Invitation letter from the family who are Canadian citizens. My host family also provided a notorized affidavit supporting my travel and temporary stay in Canada.

Duration of the visit mentioned in the applicaiton : 40 days.

Method of Applicaiton: Online using GC Key.

Proof of funds: Family friends showed $150K in Canadian bank deposits (savings accounts). I also showed funds in the home country bank account for $20K. My host family showed CRA Notice of Assessment for preceeding three years. Pay statements for the last six months, and employment letter from their job. My host has a high paying stable job and working for the same company in Canada for 4+years.

Ties to the home country: Has a wife and real estate business in my country of residence. My parents and other family members (brothers/sisters/wife's family etc) back home. My two brothers and their families are New Zealand citizens.

Previous travel history: Traveled to UAE & Saudi Arabia in the past. Also has business expired visas for Malaysia and China but never visted these two countries. My host family applied for GCMS notes and waiting to receive it.

So, I would really appreicate if members in this forum can help us better understand the reasons for rejection and some suggestions to address these issues if we decide to re apply.
40 days are too many for dropping off a friend and visiting historical places. At best 10 days with confirmed departing ticket from canada would have made more sense. Considering the length of time nobody can host a visitor for 40 days unless the relation is blood relation . (eg sisters/brotehrs/parents)

shorten your stay to 10 days and support your trip by yourself.
 
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Mir_Khan

Newbie
Jul 10, 2023
3
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Hi All,
Thank you very much for your valuable suggestions. Today I received GCMS notes for my file and it only has the info that was stated in my original refusal letter (see below) and nothing more so I am really confused here.

Also I never applied for any Canadian visa before June 2023 and not sure why the "Created Date" & "Updated Date" for refusal ground details are from 2017 and 2022 respectively.


REFUSAL GROUNDS
REFUSAL GROUNDS DETAILS: 1
Created Date: 2017/05/24
Updated Date: 2022/06/16
Refusal Grounds: R179(b) Intro Paragraph
Print Sequence: 1
Description: I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as required by paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR (https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-2002-227/section-179.html). I am refusing your application because you have not established that you will leave
Canada, based on the following factors:
Comments:
Expiry Date:

REFUSAL GROUNDS DETAILS: 2
Created Date: 2017/05/24
Updated Date: 2022/06/09
Refusal Grounds: R179(b) Assets
Print Sequence: 2
Description: Your assets and financial situation are insufficient to support the stated purpose of travel for yourself (and any accompanying family member(s), if applicable).
Comments:
Expiry Date:

REFUSAL GROUNDS DETAILS: 3
Created Date: 2017/05/24
Updated Date: 2022/06/16
Refusal Grounds: R179(b)lnconsistent Purpose
Print Sequence: 3
Description: The purpose of your visit to Canada is not consistent with a temporary stay given the details you have provided in your application.
Comments:
Expiry Date:
REFUSAL LETTER DETAILS
REFUSAL LETTER DETAILS: 1
Created Date: 2017/05/24
Created By: XXXXXXXXXX
Updated Date: 2022/06/09
Updated By: SADMIN
Description: Thank you for your interest in coming to Canada. I have reviewed your temporary resident visa (visitor visa) application and supporting documentation to assess whether you meet the requirements for a visitor visa (https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugeescitizenship/
services/visit-canada/eligibility.html). This includes assessing whether you are coming to Canada temporarily for the reason(s) you describe in your application. I have determined that your application does not meet the requirements of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act (IRPA) (https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/I-2.5/index.html) and Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations (IRPR) (https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/sor-2002-227/index.html). I am refusing your application.
Paragraph Type: Refusal Letter Intro
Selected: Y

NOTES
NOTES
NOTES: 1
Created Date: 2023/07/09
Updated Date: 2023/07/09
Restricted: N
Label: General
Office: XX XXXXXXXXXX
Text: I have reviewed the application.

I have considered the following factors in my decision.

The applicant's assets and financial situation are insufficient to support the stated purpose of travel for themselves (and any accompanying family member(s), if applicable).

The purpose of the applicant's visit to Canada is not consistent with a temporary stay given the details provided in the application.

Weighing the factors in this application. I am not satisfied that the applicant will depart Canada at the end of the period authorized for their stay.

For the reasons above, I have refused this application.

NOTES: 2
Created Date: 2023/07/09
Updated Date: 2023/07/09
Restricted: N
Label: General
Office: XX XXXXXXXXXX
Text: Indicator: N/A
Processing Priority Word Flag: N/A

NOTES: 3
Created Date: 2023/07/09
Updated Date: 2023/07/09
Restricted: N
Label: General
Office: XX XXXXX
Text: File processed with the assistance of Chinook 3+ / Dossier traite a l'aide de Chinook 3+
 

Raptor33

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May 10, 2020
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Hi All,
Thank you very much for your valuable suggestions. Today I received GCMS notes for my file and it only has the info that was stated in my original refusal letter (see below) and nothing more so I am really confused here.

Also I never applied for any Canadian visa before June 2023 and not sure why the "Created Date" & "Updated Date" for refusal ground details are from 2017 and 2022 respectively.


REFUSAL GROUNDS
REFUSAL GROUNDS DETAILS: 1
Created Date: 2017/05/24
Updated Date: 2022/06/16
Refusal Grounds: R179(b) Intro Paragraph
Print Sequence: 1
Description: I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as required by paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR (https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-2002-227/section-179.html). I am refusing your application because you have not established that you will leave
Canada, based on the following factors:
Comments:
Expiry Date:

REFUSAL GROUNDS DETAILS: 2
Created Date: 2017/05/24
Updated Date: 2022/06/09
Refusal Grounds: R179(b) Assets
Print Sequence: 2
Description: Your assets and financial situation are insufficient to support the stated purpose of travel for yourself (and any accompanying family member(s), if applicable).
Comments:
Expiry Date:

REFUSAL GROUNDS DETAILS: 3
Created Date: 2017/05/24
Updated Date: 2022/06/16
Refusal Grounds: R179(b)lnconsistent Purpose
Print Sequence: 3
Description: The purpose of your visit to Canada is not consistent with a temporary stay given the details you have provided in your application.
Comments:
Expiry Date:
REFUSAL LETTER DETAILS
REFUSAL LETTER DETAILS: 1
Created Date: 2017/05/24
Created By: XXXXXXXXXX
Updated Date: 2022/06/09
Updated By: SADMIN
Description: Thank you for your interest in coming to Canada. I have reviewed your temporary resident visa (visitor visa) application and supporting documentation to assess whether you meet the requirements for a visitor visa (https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugeescitizenship/
services/visit-canada/eligibility.html). This includes assessing whether you are coming to Canada temporarily for the reason(s) you describe in your application. I have determined that your application does not meet the requirements of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act (IRPA) (https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/I-2.5/index.html) and Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations (IRPR) (https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/sor-2002-227/index.html). I am refusing your application.
Paragraph Type: Refusal Letter Intro
Selected: Y

NOTES
NOTES
NOTES: 1
Created Date: 2023/07/09
Updated Date: 2023/07/09
Restricted: N
Label: General
Office: XX XXXXXXXXXX
Text: I have reviewed the application.

I have considered the following factors in my decision.

The applicant's assets and financial situation are insufficient to support the stated purpose of travel for themselves (and any accompanying family member(s), if applicable).

The purpose of the applicant's visit to Canada is not consistent with a temporary stay given the details provided in the application.

Weighing the factors in this application. I am not satisfied that the applicant will depart Canada at the end of the period authorized for their stay.

For the reasons above, I have refused this application.

NOTES: 2
Created Date: 2023/07/09
Updated Date: 2023/07/09
Restricted: N
Label: General
Office: XX XXXXXXXXXX
Text: Indicator: N/A
Processing Priority Word Flag: N/A

NOTES: 3
Created Date: 2023/07/09
Updated Date: 2023/07/09
Restricted: N
Label: General
Office: XX XXXXX
Text: File processed with the assistance of Chinook 3+ / Dossier traite a l'aide de Chinook 3+

Hi there,

I understand your confusion. The GCMS notes you received only contain the information that was stated in your original refusal letter, and nothing more. This is because the GCMS notes are a record of the immigration officer's decision-making process, and they do not include any additional information that was not already considered in the decision.

The "Created Date" and "Updated Date" for the refusal ground details are from 2017 and 2022, respectively, because the immigration officer may have updated the notes at some point after the initial decision was made. This could have been done to add additional information, or to correct any errors.
I understand that you are concerned that you never applied for a Canadian visa before June 2023, but the GCMS notes do not show the date of your application. The only date that is shown is the "Created Date" for the refusal ground details, which is 2017. This means that the immigration officer may have reviewed your file in 2017, even though you did not apply for a visa until June 2023.

I understand that this is frustrating, but there is not much you can do about it. The GCMS notes are a record of the immigration officer's decision-making process, and they do not include any additional information that was not already considered in the decision.

If you are still concerned about the decision, you can contact the IRCC and ask for an explanation. However, it is unlikely that they will be able to provide you with any additional information, as the GCMS notes are the most complete record of the decision-making process.

I hope this helps to clarify the situation.
 
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Mir_Khan

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Jul 10, 2023
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Hi there,

I understand your confusion. The GCMS notes you received only contain the information that was stated in your original refusal letter, and nothing more. This is because the GCMS notes are a record of the immigration officer's decision-making process, and they do not include any additional information that was not already considered in the decision.

The "Created Date" and "Updated Date" for the refusal ground details are from 2017 and 2022, respectively, because the immigration officer may have updated the notes at some point after the initial decision was made. This could have been done to add additional information, or to correct any errors.
I understand that you are concerned that you never applied for a Canadian visa before June 2023, but the GCMS notes do not show the date of your application. The only date that is shown is the "Created Date" for the refusal ground details, which is 2017. This means that the immigration officer may have reviewed your file in 2017, even though you did not apply for a visa until June 2023.

I understand that this is frustrating, but there is not much you can do about it. The GCMS notes are a record of the immigration officer's decision-making process, and they do not include any additional information that was not already considered in the decision.

If you are still concerned about the decision, you can contact the IRCC and ask for an explanation. However, it is unlikely that they will be able to provide you with any additional information, as the GCMS notes are the most complete record of the decision-making process.

I hope this helps to clarify the situation.
Thank you very much for your clarifications.

"This means that the immigration officer may have reviewed your file in 2017, even though you did not apply for a visa until June 2023"

How can the immigration officer reveiw my file in the year 2017 when I never gave any biometrics or considered applying for any Canadian visa until June 2023?

Infact I never requested anything from the Canadian Govt until June 2023. So how can they have a file for me in 2017? This is really confusing.
 

tommy_2k23

Hero Member
May 10, 2023
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Thank you very much for your clarifications.

"This means that the immigration officer may have reviewed your file in 2017, even though you did not apply for a visa until June 2023"

How can the immigration officer reveiw my file in the year 2017 when I never gave any biometrics or considered applying for any Canadian visa until June 2023?

Infact I never requested anything from the Canadian Govt until June 2023. So how can they have a file for me in 2017? This is really confusing.
what matters are the refusal notes of the recent refusal. if they are in align you must address your refusal reasons. Any future visa officer will have access to your previous visa refusal notes. Let it pass some time apply after a year or so and then in the meantime work on your financial situation and remember vistor visa is a nonimmigrant visa you must come back after your trip usually applicants opt for 10-14 days at best so your travel plans must make sense.

Apart from that show home ties having a property on your name and a stable job are strong homw ties and keeping wife/kids back home is also strong tie.
 
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Raptor33

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May 10, 2020
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Thank you very much for your clarifications.

"This means that the immigration officer may have reviewed your file in 2017, even though you did not apply for a visa until June 2023"

How can the immigration officer reveiw my file in the year 2017 when I never gave any biometrics or considered applying for any Canadian visa until June 2023?

Infact I never requested anything from the Canadian Govt until June 2023. So how can they have a file for me in 2017? This is really confusing.
I understand your confusion. It is strange that the immigration officer would have reviewed your file in 2017 if you never applied for a visa until 2023.
There are a few possible explanations for this. One possibility is that you may have been included in a security check or background check that was conducted by the Canadian government in 2017. This could have been done for a variety of reasons, such as if you were applying for a job that required a security clearance, or if you were traveling to a country that is considered to be a high-risk destination.

Another possibility is that you may have been mistakenly identified as someone else who had applied for a visa in 2017. This could have happened if your name and date of birth are similar to someone else's, or if you have a common name.

Unfortunately, there is no way to know for sure why the immigration officer reviewed your file in 2017 without more information. If you are still concerned about this, you can contact the IRCC and ask for an explanation. However, it is unlikely that they will be able to provide you with any more information than what is already in the GCMS notes.

I hope this helps to clarify the situation.
 
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kqadri

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My Canada Visit Visa Refused para 179b on 29 12 2023

• The purpose of your visit to Canada is not consistent with a temporary stay given the details you have provided in your application.

• Your current employment situation does not show that you are financially established in your country of residence.

• You have limited employment possibilities in your country of residence.

Why my visa refused? Plz update
 

albloshi_sa

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My Canada Visit Visa Refused para 179b on 29 12 2023

• The purpose of your visit to Canada is not consistent with a temporary stay given the details you have provided in your application.

• Your current employment situation does not show that you are financially established in your country of residence.

• You have limited employment possibilities in your country of residence.

Why my visa refused? Plz update
1. Your purpose of visit doesnt make sense. (Example: You are planning to travel for toursim to canada, whereas you never travelled or limited traveled to Toursistic countries like Malaysia, Thailand or turkey etc) (Other Example: You want to go for a conference in Canada whereas you never went to any conference around the world OR this conference will not help you with anything in your life/job/etc)

2. I think you reside outside your home country. So its common reason of refusal for people residing outside home country. (Example: Pakistani citizen residing and working in Dubai with low savings/salary etc, So he is not financially established in Dubai.)
OR you reside in your own home country BUT have very low paying job OR your job doesnt have good scope in your home country.

3. Your job/occupation is one of targeted occupation which the country of residence want their own citizen to work in. (Example: Pakistani working in Sales in Saudi Arabia. and Saudi Arabia passed a law that Sales jobs will be for Saudi Citizens only. - Now all foreigners working in this job category have limited employment possibilities in the country of residence).
OR your job/occupation doesnt have good scope in your home country.

Apply for GCMS notes and see what officer wrote on the file.

I hope this explanation will help.
 
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albloshi_sa

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I understand your confusion. It is strange that the immigration officer would have reviewed your file in 2017 if you never applied for a visa until 2023.
There are a few possible explanations for this. One possibility is that you may have been included in a security check or background check that was conducted by the Canadian government in 2017. This could have been done for a variety of reasons, such as if you were applying for a job that required a security clearance, or if you were traveling to a country that is considered to be a high-risk destination.

Another possibility is that you may have been mistakenly identified as someone else who had applied for a visa in 2017. This could have happened if your name and date of birth are similar to someone else's, or if you have a common name.

Unfortunately, there is no way to know for sure why the immigration officer reviewed your file in 2017 without more information. If you are still concerned about this, you can contact the IRCC and ask for an explanation. However, it is unlikely that they will be able to provide you with any more information than what is already in the GCMS notes.

I hope this helps to clarify the situation.
the 2017 notes are those which are generic and already created in the system and the officer only assinged those refusal codes to the application. That is why you see that created date is 2017 and update date is 2023
 

albloshi_sa

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Jul 28, 2019
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Hi All,
Thank you very much for your valuable suggestions. Today I received GCMS notes for my file and it only has the info that was stated in my original refusal letter (see below) and nothing more so I am really confused here.

Also I never applied for any Canadian visa before June 2023 and not sure why the "Created Date" & "Updated Date" for refusal ground details are from 2017 and 2022 respectively.


REFUSAL GROUNDS
REFUSAL GROUNDS DETAILS: 1
Created Date: 2017/05/24
Updated Date: 2022/06/16
Refusal Grounds: R179(b) Intro Paragraph
Print Sequence: 1
Description: I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as required by paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR (https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-2002-227/section-179.html). I am refusing your application because you have not established that you will leave
Canada, based on the following factors:
Comments:
Expiry Date:

REFUSAL GROUNDS DETAILS: 2
Created Date: 2017/05/24
Updated Date: 2022/06/09
Refusal Grounds: R179(b) Assets
Print Sequence: 2
Description: Your assets and financial situation are insufficient to support the stated purpose of travel for yourself (and any accompanying family member(s), if applicable).
Comments:
Expiry Date:

REFUSAL GROUNDS DETAILS: 3
Created Date: 2017/05/24
Updated Date: 2022/06/16
Refusal Grounds: R179(b)lnconsistent Purpose
Print Sequence: 3
Description: The purpose of your visit to Canada is not consistent with a temporary stay given the details you have provided in your application.
Comments:
Expiry Date:
REFUSAL LETTER DETAILS
REFUSAL LETTER DETAILS: 1
Created Date: 2017/05/24
Created By: XXXXXXXXXX
Updated Date: 2022/06/09
Updated By: SADMIN
Description: Thank you for your interest in coming to Canada. I have reviewed your temporary resident visa (visitor visa) application and supporting documentation to assess whether you meet the requirements for a visitor visa (https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugeescitizenship/
services/visit-canada/eligibility.html). This includes assessing whether you are coming to Canada temporarily for the reason(s) you describe in your application. I have determined that your application does not meet the requirements of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act (IRPA) (https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/I-2.5/index.html) and Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations (IRPR) (https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/sor-2002-227/index.html). I am refusing your application.
Paragraph Type: Refusal Letter Intro
Selected: Y

NOTES
NOTES
NOTES: 1
Created Date: 2023/07/09
Updated Date: 2023/07/09
Restricted: N
Label: General
Office: XX XXXXXXXXXX
Text: I have reviewed the application.

I have considered the following factors in my decision.

The applicant's assets and financial situation are insufficient to support the stated purpose of travel for themselves (and any accompanying family member(s), if applicable).

The purpose of the applicant's visit to Canada is not consistent with a temporary stay given the details provided in the application.

Weighing the factors in this application. I am not satisfied that the applicant will depart Canada at the end of the period authorized for their stay.

For the reasons above, I have refused this application.

NOTES: 2
Created Date: 2023/07/09
Updated Date: 2023/07/09
Restricted: N
Label: General
Office: XX XXXXXXXXXX
Text: Indicator: N/A
Processing Priority Word Flag: N/A

NOTES: 3
Created Date: 2023/07/09
Updated Date: 2023/07/09
Restricted: N
Label: General
Office: XX XXXXX
Text: File processed with the assistance of Chinook 3+ / Dossier traite a l'aide de Chinook 3+
the 2017 notes are those which are generic and already created in the system since 2007.
and the officer only assigned those refusal codes to your application. That is why you see that created date is 2017 and update date is 2023
 

kqadri

Member
Aug 18, 2023
15
0
45
Pakistan
Category........
VISIT
Thanks for update


Final decision

December 29, 2023 We regret to inform you that your application was refused.
Following supporting/required documents for Canada Visit TRV visa from Pakistan.



• My bank statements of my Salaried and Personal Accounts with account maintaining
letter computer generated copy.$6000 cad

• My bank cash funds account statements scan copy with account maintain letter
computer generated copy.$4000 cad

• My Provident Fund (PF) Statement from period of July 2022 to September 2023 computer generated copy.$5000 usd

• 03 Credit Card Monthly Statement computer generated copy.

• Three years Income Tax Return (ITR) from 2021, 2022 & 2023 computer generated copy.

• Properties, (home & flat) and gold valuation report scan copy.$ 80,000 usd

• My own property/Flat in Pakistan registry scan copy.

• Employment letter and approved leaves letter from my office scan copy.

• Performance Appraisal Letter 2023 scan copy.

• Three months’ Pay slips scan computer generated copies.

• Hotels booking scan copies.

• Travel reservation 10th June to 19th June 2024 scan copy.

• Travel insurance coverage of Euro 30,000 ($ 5 0 , 0 0 0 ) scan copy.

• Travel History Entry Exit stamps with UAE, Iran, Iraq & Turkey visa scan copies.
• Police record clearance certificate scan copy.
• My marriage certificate (NADRA) scan copy.
• Family registration Certificate (FRC NADRA) scan copy.
• Covid-19 & Polio Vaccine scan copie



1. Your purpose of visit doesnt make sense. (Example: You are planning to travel for toursim to canada, whereas you never travelled or limited traveled to Toursistic countries like Malaysia, Thailand or turkey etc) (Other Example: You want to go for a conference in Canada whereas you never went to any conference around the world OR this conference will not help you with anything in your life/job/etc)

2. I think you reside outside your home country. So its common reason of refusal for people residing outside home country. (Example: Pakistani citizen residing and working in Dubai with low savings/salary etc, So he is not financially established in Dubai.)
OR you reside in your own home country BUT have very low paying job OR your job doesnt have good scope in your home country.

3. Your job/occupation is one of targeted occupation which the country of residence want their own citizen to work in. (Example: Pakistani working in Sales in Saudi Arabia. and Saudi Arabia passed a law that Sales jobs will be for Saudi Citizens only. - Now all foreigners working in this job category have limited employment possibilities in the country of residence).
OR your job/occupation doesnt have good scope in your home country.

Apply for GCMS notes and see what officer wrote on the file.

I hope this explanation will help.
 

kqadri

Member
Aug 18, 2023
15
0
45
Pakistan
Category........
VISIT
All suppoeting documents are genuine
how to I challenge?

GCMS Notes already applied when I get?