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RockinSam

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I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, based on your family ties in Canada and in your country of residence.

I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, based on your travel history.
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You are welcome to reapply if you feel that you can respond to these concerns and can demonstrate that your situation meets the requirements....

I have no family ties in Canada and I am a cabin crew in UAE, and I don't which family ties they mentioned about in current country of stay.

I have been divorced and hold no ties in Dubai and I travel a lot due to my job. It all doesn't make sense.

The only reason can be possible is my visa in Dubai due to expire on 26/11 which is less than 6 months can this be the reason?
 

RockinSam

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is your reason

No ties in Dubai or anywhere = more chances of moving to Canada on a TRV
I am divorced but I have a daughter in home country, plus mother and other siblings. Where I often go and visit them. But I have no family ties in Canada and in Dubai.

my plan was to travel to NYC and then travel to Toronto and exit to dxb.
 

bellaluna

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I am divorced but I have a daughter in home country, plus mother and other siblings. Where I often go and visit them. But I have no family ties in Canada and in Dubai.

my plan was to travel to NYC and then travel to Toronto and exit to dxb.
Still, you live in Dubai, not your home country, which weakens your ties to it. It's only showing that you are willing to be away from your family. You really don't have ties anywhere, and it's really hard to get a TRV.

Just telling you how visa officers think/rationalize. It might not be possible to get a TRV approved until you settle down in one country for a few years.

The validity of your Dubai visa/residence permit had little to do with it--it's your overall situation.
 

RockinSam

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Still, you live in Dubai, not your home country, which weakens your ties to it. It's only showing that you are willing to be away from your family. You really don't have ties anywhere, and it's really hard to get a TRV.

So what do you suggest I shall not try to get visa anymore? Because I'm not planning to settle down anywhere else then dubai in next 5 years but the situation you are explaining it's very disappointing that a person can't travel to Canada even he is not willing to live there

Just telling you how visa officers think/rationalize. It might not be possible to get a TRV approved until you settle down in one country for a few years.

The validity of your Dubai visa/residence permit had little to do with it--it's your overall situation.
 

RockinSam

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I have been living here in Dxb from last 12 years.
I understand your point but it should not be the reason to deny a visa. I just wanted to visit Canada that's it and they can see I'm happily living here and a cabin purser. Why would I won't come back to my job and place where I can go home twice a month, to see my daughter and mom.
 

bellaluna

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You don't have to convince me. You have to convince the visa officer.

They believe that a good number of Pakistanis working in Dubai or some other Middle Eastern country would like to leave their current situation and move to Canada instead.
 

haseebali

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Sep 19, 2017
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You don't have to convince me. You have to convince the visa officer.

They believe that a good number of Pakistanis working in Dubai or some other Middle Eastern country would like to leave their current situation and move to Canada instead.
@bellaluna is so right about this, as long as you are Pakistani national things are very strict and difficult for you, all Pakistani visitor visa applications are processed in Abu-dhabi who hired majority of their staff from another neighbouring countries who assess the applications more precisely in a fear that if they made any mistake they will lose their job so they do reject Pakistani applicants even on a punctuation mistake and when they are lenient which is very rare they even ignore a big time mistake or misrepresentation, but that's only a miracle. By the way if you are working for an airline, does your airline fly to Canada ?
 
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RockinSam

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@bellaluna is so right about this, as long as you are Pakistani national things are very strict and difficult for you, all Pakistani visitor visa applications are processed in Abu-dhabi who hired majority of their staff from another neighbouring countries who assess the applications more precisely in a fear that if they made any mistake they will lose their job so they do reject Pakistani applicants even on a punctuation mistake and when they are lenient which is very rare they even ignore a big time mistake or misrepresentation, but that's only a miracle. By the way if you are working for an airline, does your airline fly to Canada ?
No we don't fly to Canada, well guys I think you guys are trying your best to make me disappoint but I have asked some of my country men in our airline and they all got it and they are all saying its most probably your work visa is due to expire in less than 6 months. Well I'll update you when I will get it.

And I think I took this visa so easy like the others.
 

haseebali

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No we don't fly to Canada, well guys I think you guys are trying your best to make me disappoint but I have asked some of my country men in our airline and they all got it and they are all saying its most probably your work visa is due to expire in less than 6 months. Well I'll update you when I will get it.

And I think I took this visa so easy like the others.
Based on our personal experiences I am trying my best to share the same with you. I also been through the same situation and it was impossible for me to digest that refusal fact. Yet it's also one of the reason that we all believe that if we have US visa or UK visa, Canada will give us visa easily but Canada have their own set of rules though they do consider the US visa in certain cases but one should never get over confidence with that a Canada visa will be also granted a visa if you have the US visa or travelled to US and the Visa policy also vary as per your nationality. If you go through with my other post I did mentioned about your unfair refusal but you and me can't do anything if the policy is strict for Pakistani nationals because people from our country misuse the visa and in return we have to face high refusals.
 

RockinSam

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Based on our personal experiences I am trying my best to share the same with you. I also been through the same situation and it was impossible for me to digest that refusal fact. Yet it's also one of the reason that we all believe that if we have US visa or UK visa, Canada will give us visa easily but Canada have their own set of rules though they do consider the US visa in certain cases but one should never get over confidence with that a Canada visa will be also granted a visa if you have the US visa or travelled to US and the Visa policy also vary as per your nationality. If you go through with my other post I did mentioned about your unfair refusal but you and me can't do anything if the policy is strict for Pakistani nationals because people from our country misuse the visa and in return we have to face high refusals.
Well yes I agree a lot of our brothers miss use the visa policies and that's why we have to suffer.

I will have a look at your posts but this time I will go with full preparations. Hopefully I will get it.
 

albloshi_sa

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Same is the situation in Saudi Arabia.
I am born and living in SA and I have valid US visa and traveled to US and have family in SA still got refused.
see my thread for details.
 
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haseebali

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Many of our Pakistani believes that if they have GCC residency visas they will get another visas easily yet in certain cases it’s also very supportive and true but when it comes to Canadian visa, IRCC consider this residency visa as a weak tie, because end of the there is no concept of citizenship in GCC countries so the IRCC always consider this that the applicant is not going to return as he have no ties to his homeland.
 

albloshi_sa

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No this is not completely true. This could be true to certain nationalities but not all. I have my indian and srilankan colleagues resident in GCC who have got Canada TRV very recently. Also I have pakistani friends who got it last year.

Many pakistanis have businesses , properties and strong ties back home and they are working in GCC to enhance their life back home, so ties are different from person to person.

I believe it has to do with the number of pakistanis not returning back after landing in Canada. Especially who get their visa converted to student or work to stay inside canada. These people has created a hassle for genuine visitor. Not to forget that Canada has a black market for workpermit and study permit sales even if they officially deny it.
Also these VOs has to consider that if a person has family waiting for him in GCC area how can he disappear inside canada to stay illegally. Also they have to consider the countries a person went and did not settle in them. Many countries av settlement options, like turkey, malaysia, singapore etc. But the just rationalize and generalize all the applicants of a particular nationality with same point of view.
 
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haseebali

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Sep 19, 2017
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No this is not completely true. This could be true to certain nationalities but not all. I have my indian and srilankan colleagues resident in GCC who have got Canada TRV very recently. Also I have pakistani friends who got it last year.

Many pakistanis have businesses , properties and strong ties back home and they are working in GCC to enhance their life back home, so ties are different from person to person.

I believe it has to do with the number of pakistanis not returning back after landing in Canada. Especially who get their visa converted to student or work to stay inside canada. These people has created a hassle for genuine visitor. Not to forget that Canada has a black market for workpermit and study permit sales even if they officially deny it.
Also these VOs has to consider that if a person has family waiting for him in GCC area how can he disappear inside canada to stay illegally. Also they have to consider the countries a person went and did not settle in them. Many countries av settlement options, like turkey, malaysia, singapore etc. But the just rationalize and generalize all the applicants of a particular nationality with same point of view.
I completely agree with you whatever you just said above but once again the point is how you can convince the same to Visa officer ? They consider and process the visa applications differently for Pakistan because our people breached their immigration laws and visa policies. So they consider everyone same because 10 out of 3 people does the same trick how they allow the other 7 as well ? If you compare us from other countries their applicants go and come back and try to adapt every possible genuine way. If they have a intention to work and settle they apply for that category, they don’t do work on a visitor visa. That’s a big difference the refusals which we are facing today because of a long time breaches, you know Canada use to give on arrival visas until early 2000 on Pakistan passports at Niagara Falls border if you are a tourist and would like to enter Canada they grant you the Visa at border or in certain cases within 24 to 48 hours and now those hours turns into days
 
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