Visa Rejection

[itikaul]

Hi,

I am a Director in Digital Marketing with Group M ( a WPP company) which is the largest corporate for advertising in the world and have been with the organisation for almost 5 years now.
I have had my visa rejection twice.
First it was for the following reasons:
You have not satisfied me that you would leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary resident. In reaching this decision, I considered several factors, including:
-travel history
-purpose of visit
-financial status

I had followed that up with the following documents and re-applied - bank statements, ITR's, pay slips, letter of employment, leave certificate from my organisation, my asset details which includes owning a car in my city of residence, booked return tickets, a letter of invitation from my uncle who is a Canadian citizen which stated I will be residing with them during my stay and will also bear my expenses if any situation was to arise, wedding invite for their son's wedding (who is my first cousin). I had additionally also submitted a cover letter stating my previous travel history which included having traveled on a Schenegan visa (along with passport copies of the other countries that I had traveled to earlier).

I have received a refusal again stating :
I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, based on the purpose of your visit.
I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR, based on your personal assets and financial status.

This is extremely disheartening since I was planning to travel for my brother's wedding on the 18th August and in such short notice I cannot reapply and asides, I am unsure of know what additional documents can I share for the above.

Is there anyway to connect with the embassy and have a personal interview to have this resolved incase there is any issue which we cannot understand with respect to the application.

 

[Bryanna]

Is there anyway to connect with the embassy and have a personal interview to have this resolved incase there is any issue which we cannot understand with respect to the application.

No, you cannot contact the visa office nor can you request for a personal interview. If your application was a borderline approval then the visa office would have asked you to attend an interview (this is not requested often).

I am a Director in Digital Marketing with Group M ( a WPP company) which is the largest corporate for advertising in the world and have been with the organisation for almost 5 years now.
I have had my visa rejection twice.
First it was for the following reasons:
You have not satisfied me that you would leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary resident. In reaching this decision, I considered several factors, including:
-travel history
-purpose of visit
-financial status

I had followed that up with the following documents and re-applied - bank statements, ITR's, pay slips, letter of employment, leave certificate from my organisation, my asset details which includes owning a car in my city of residence, booked return tickets, a letter of invitation from my uncle who is a Canadian citizen which stated I will be residing with them during my stay and will also bear my expenses if any situation was to arise, wedding invite for their son's wedding (who is my first cousin). I had additionally also submitted a cover letter stating my previous travel history which included having traveled on a Schenegan visa (along with passport copies of the other countries that I had traveled to earlier).

1. What was the length of your intended visit?


2. Did you transfer money between bank accounts? Were the overall financial situation consistent with your income and tax returns? Or was some amount borrowed from someone?

No, from a visa perspective, your uncle is not expected to pay for your visit. His finances are only secondary.


3. Did you prove your relationship to your uncle/your cousin?


4. Which Schengen countries did you visit? For how long? Purpose of those visits?


5. Does your employer have any Canadian clients? Or an office in Canada?

 

[itikaul]

No, you cannot contact the visa office nor can you request for a personal interview. If your application was a borderline approval then the visa office would have asked you to attend an interview (this is not requested often).



1. What was the length of your intended visit?
A week - had shared booked tickets

2. Did you transfer money between bank accounts? Were the overall financial situation consistent with your income and tax returns? Or was some amount borrowed from someone? - nope. Only salary transactions

No, from a visa perspective, your uncle is not expected to pay for your visit. His finances are only secondary.


3. Did you prove your relationship to your uncle/your cousin? - yes. My aunt and father are real siblings. Had furnished Thier passports showing the same father's name


4. Which Schengen countries did you visit? For how long? Purpose of those visits? - Spain, 15 days . It was a tourist visa


5. Does your employer have any Canadian clients? Or an office in Canada? - we have offices in Canada

 

[Bryanna]

No, you cannot contact the visa office nor can you request for a personal interview. If your application was a borderline approval then the visa office would have asked you to attend an interview (this is not requested often).



1. What was the length of your intended visit?
A week - had shared booked tickets

2. Did you transfer money between bank accounts? Were the overall financial situation consistent with your income and tax returns? Or was some amount borrowed from someone? - nope. Only salary transactions

No, from a visa perspective, your uncle is not expected to pay for your visit. His finances are only secondary.


3. Did you prove your relationship to your uncle/your cousin? - yes. My aunt and father are real siblings. Had furnished Thier passports showing the same father's name


4. Which Schengen countries did you visit? For how long? Purpose of those visits? - Spain, 15 days . It was a tourist visa


5. Does your employer have any Canadian clients? Or an office in Canada? - we have offices in Canada

Do your parents have TRVs? Were they also visiting for the wedding?

 

[itikaul]

No my parents aren't but a lot of my other family members (aunts, UI ncles and cousins) are around the same time.

 

[itikaul]

Since my relatives had applied earlier their visas have come. I have my own wedding in November due to the preparations of which my parents aren't traveling. Is there any email I could reach out to the embassy to explain the scenario . I or anyone in my family hasn't faced such an issue for visas ever before.

 

[Bryanna]

Since my relatives had applied earlier their visas have come. I have my own wedding in November due to the preparations of which my parents aren't traveling. Is there any email I could reach out to the embassy to explain the scenario . I or anyone in my family hasn't faced such an issue for visas ever before.

Again, were your parents and/or your siblings granted TRVs?

Is anyone else from your immediate family (not relatives) also traveling for your cousin's wedding?

 

[itikaul]

Again, were your parents and/or your siblings granted TRVs?

Is anyone else from your immediate family (not relatives) also traveling for your cousin's wedding?

My real brother will be but his visa is still under processing. Rest everyone is first cousins and my father's real brothers and their families.

 

[Bryanna]

My real brother will be but his visa is still under processing. Rest everyone is first cousins and my father's real brothers and their families.

Simple question again:
Have your parents been granted visitor visas for Canada?

 

[itikaul]

They haven't applied, how will they be granted ?

 

[itikaul]

Like I mentioned its my own wedding in New Delhi, India in November this year. They have stuff to take care of for that. So they never applied for Canada TRV.
Sorry if I wasn't clear earlier.

 

[Naname]

@itikaul Sorry to hear that :/ But havent you written a letter while applying with other documentations about your case and about your wedding due . I think your wedding , its a serious reason to be back. Are your relatives in Canada coming to your wedding ? Maybe if they have already tickets that would be a great prove , that your wedding is "real", and also mentioning that your parents arent coming because of that. Like to make applying more detailed.


I have the same situation ( except Im not getting married . My cousins daughters wedding, who I raised from her childhood, now they are living in Canada.
I got exactly the same 3 refusal reasons like yours, its as if they didnt even check the papers submitted. .

Im a single female from Georgia , employed and financially stable with my own property.
My relative , citizen of Canada, is going to have a wedding , so since we are very close from her childhood , we applied for a visitor visa in April and in 20 days I got a refusal stating no travel history ( when I am a travel agent and have visited quite a lot of countries ,mainly Europe and I even made a chart list of countries and dates for the last 10 years including Israel , UK,, I attached that so that they dont need to go through all the visas and stamps in my passport and see all the countries visited more than 15 ,I love my job and I love travelling, I save boarding passes from my each trip and I even attached a photo of that ).

The second was purpose of visit ( where we attached the documentation about her wedding and paid Hall checks with their names on it, her invitation letter where she stated I would stay with her ., length of the stay 2 weeks my vacation time stated in the paper from my employer.,and flight booking with exact dates ).
And the third one was financial assets ( I have more than enough for the trip on my saving account , money on the account for quite a while, my own noone transferred anything ).

So she first emailed consulate where they couldnt give exact reason why they refused. Then I found this site read a lot about how important and helpful caips notes are , so I decided I needed to apply for it. I really need to understand the reason, I know they dont want people who will stay there illegally and wont come back. And Its not my case, I have even written a letter stating that Im law abiding citizens and that Im going to return on time. I guess they didnt believe me. The other reason could be me being single and no kids , I understand that too,

So with her help we applied , and after a month of waiting we were emailed from ATIP / AIPRP (IRCC) that there was no hand written consent letter , (but it was there, we sent exactly how it was needed signed with blue ink ). . So we resent it. And got the papers, BUT these are only the papers that I submitted when I applied + refusal documentations, nothing else. I couldnt find any visa officer notes ,there are no such papers :/ .It upset me a lot , I so much wanted to understand what I did wrong that they decided I didnt satisfy them.

I just really want to know their reasons why they refused I try to think like being a VO , the only thing I could think maybe they doubted my saving deposit , but Im alone ,have no dependents , I work, I attached statements from my old and my new accounts , both are active.

So now since I got the wrong caips , and the wedding is the end of September I dont have time to reapply for caips again. I was thinking of reapplying but since I dont know what they didnt like the only thing I can, to attach more precise letter from my side.
I didnt know how to prove our relative relationship ,as its a second cousin, I attached photos of us from the time she was four till last year they were here with her fiance, around 20 in collages and I think that says more than mere paper statement..

@Bryanna , could you advise what could be the reason they decided I wont return, what seem suspicious,. You know maybe I dont have enough time for caips and reapplying but I think I will order caips just to read and understand VO reasons. Its like a quiz i cant find a clue.
She applied for my behalf for visa refusal reasons , and got the papers for the second options , IRCC correspondence and docs, have you heard of such cases ? Its so strange its like they didnt even look at my submitted papers when I tried to do everything exactly as it was stated and applied online.

 

[Bryanna]

Like I mentioned its my own wedding in New Delhi, India in November this year. They have stuff to take care of for that. So they never applied for Canada TRV.
Sorry if I wasn't clear earlier.

Phew! That was hard work


IMO, this is how both your applications appeared to the visa officers:
1. Why would you spend significant money + travel to Canada for just one week? Agreed, you want to attend your cousin's wedding but you didn't prove that purpose of visit with adequate evidence.


2. Red flag #1: Your parents (especially your dad) have not applied for TRVs + they are not attending your cousin's wedding, whereas most other relatives will be attending.

Your own wedding in November is quite a few months away + your wedding preparations in India wouldn't stop your parents from taking a couple of weeks' off to attend your cousin's wedding + these days wedding preparations in India are normally managed by wedding planners.


3. All your ties to India are not strong enough to compel you to return home. For example, you can ask your employer for a transfer to a Canadian office (or maybe overstay your visit or work as a visitor which is not allowed, of course) + your finances can be accessed abroad.

Strong ties that could compel someone to return home: Property ownership + spouse and/or minor children + strong financials + established history of returning home after short visits abroad.


4. Red flag #2: Maybe the visa officers thought you have a stronger purpose of visiting Canada for business reasons than for your cousin's wedding.


5. Maybe your liquid finances were inadequate to support your visit + not an incentive for you to return to India.... which would explain the refusal reason for finances.


To answer your question:
You would need to reapply from scratch. You would want to reapply only when you have new evidence and/or explanations to prove that you have overcome the refusal reasons.

You could order the case notes to understand the observations made by the visa officers.

Applying in quick succession indicates desperation to visit + would likely make the visa officer to again question the reasons for your visit.

No, you cannot request for a personal meeting/interview with the visa officer. It does not work that way. Your paperwork needs to really solid

 

[onelove1]

Bryanna dear, please check your inbox I send you a note.
waiting your reply.

 

[Naname]

Dear @brianna its always so interesting to read your explanations. Makes you understand more.
Itikaul -s case after your detailed explanation seems more clear from the VO prospective and reasons .
Thank you for helping people that much.