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visa refusel due to family tie in Canada

Ibelieve1

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Nov 7, 2016
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my sister's visitor visa was refused due to her family tie in Canada. Her family tie in Canada is me. My husband and I didn't do anything wrong but work and work and work and work and work and work ................................................( sorry I am crying)for almost 20 years and pay lots of tax for this country. My sister supported me a lot while my family here building our new life and contribute to this country. Now she is refused because I am here. Can somebody tell me why? My heart is sank. I can't smile anymore. Can somebody help? Please!
 

Jalex23

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Apr 12, 2013
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Calgary
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CPP-Ottawa
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2171
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App. Filed.......
05-09-2013
Doc's Request.
09-04-2014
AOR Received.
06-11-2013
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Ibelieve1 said:
my sister's visitor visa was refused due to her family tie in Canada. Her family tie in Canada is me. My husband and I didn't do anything wrong but work and work and work and work and work and work ................................................( sorry I am crying)for almost 20 years and pay lots of tax for this country. My sister supported me a lot while my family here building our new life and contribute to this country. Now she is refused because I am here. Can somebody tell me why? My heart is sank. I can't smile anymore. Can somebody help? Please!
She has to prove there is no reason for her to stay in Canada.

Evidence of strong ties to homecountry are needed to assert this. For example:

- Letter of employment where she has worked at least 1 year
- Financial proof that she can afford the trip
- Assets and/or properties that prove she has a life in her home country

Usually TRVs are refused for three main reasons:

- Failing to show financial proof (she has to show she can afford the trip, sponsrship DOES NOT wave this requirement).
- Requesting too long of a visit (two weeks preferred if first trip, or if she travels constantly then a stay that is consistent with other visits).
- Failing to show ties to home country (no stable job, no properties, no financial assets, not studying, no one that needs her back home).

Review and resubmit.
 

Ibelieve1

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Nov 7, 2016
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Hi Jalex,

Thank you for your response.

I do think my sister has strong tie in China. She applied travel with her husband. They have a son, who is a high school student and won't travel with them; my parents who are on their 80s. They have one rental property, 2 residence properties, 2 vehicles, money in the bank, and they have jobs.

Thanks
 

scylla

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Jun 8, 2010
96,861
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Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
How long a visit did she request? Has she previously traveled to countries requiring visas (e.g. US, UK)?
 

Ibelieve1

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Nov 7, 2016
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Hi Scylla,

She applied for one month. She applied for Christmas time, My husband and I and our children can be off from work and school for 2 weeks.

They never traveled to countries. But I don't think that's the reason. They never had time, If they do, the first time is here. They have tie in Canada but nowhere else. They can't even visit their tie in Canada, why they want to them visit other countries first?

Thanks a lot!
 

canuck_in_uk

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May 4, 2012
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London
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06/12
Ibelieve1 said:
She applied for one month. She applied for Christmas time, My husband and I and our children can be off from work and school for 2 weeks.

They never traveled to countries. But I don't think that's the reason. They never had time, If they do, the first time is here. They have tie in Canada but nowhere else. They can't even visit their tie in Canada, why they want to them visit other countries first?
Having no travel history is a big reason to be refused. Travel history shows that a person has respected the rules of their stays in other countries and therefore is less of a risk to overstay in Canada.

What proof of ties did she submit with her app?
 

Ibelieve1

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Nov 7, 2016
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Can anybody help? Is there any way to find the real reason of the refusal? I am not sure if I should apply again. They said don't reapply unless there is any change. The only thing I can change is the visit period, apply two weeks instead of one month. Will it work? I want to my heart fill with love with this country.
 

Bryanna

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Sep 8, 2014
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Can anybody help? Is there any way to find the real reason of the refusal?
Apply for GCMS notes. You will know the observations made by the visa officer

www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/atip/requests-atip.asp


They said don't reapply unless there is any change.
Your sister has excellent ties to China. It is possible that the visa application was not put together/not presented properly/maybe lacked certain evidence.... to prove these ties.

IMO, and based on your posts, I think your sister has good chances of getting a TRV if you present her application well
 

Ibelieve1

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Nov 7, 2016
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Thank you so much Bryanna. You give me lots of hope. I thought of lot recently if missed something. I provide their money in the bank(80000Yuan), 2 residence properties, 1 rental property(I did even provide the leasing agreement), letter form work, 2 vehicles ownership. Do I need provide anything to prove their son is still in the school, or something about my parents? The only thing I can think is the IMM5257E form, I forgot put their UIC No. Do you think that might be the case? If that's the reason, or if I can find the other reasons, I will immediately correct it and apply again. We are looking for this meet for a long time.

I appreciate any suggestion,
 

Ibelieve1

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Nov 7, 2016
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Bryanna, I just read the "How to make a request under the Access to Information Act", does that mean I can ask the reasons through that? If it is, my problem is when I helped her applied online, I didn't sent this IMM5744. Is anyway I can correct this big mistake?

Thanks a lot!
 

Bryanna

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Sep 8, 2014
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"How to make a request under the Access to Information Act", does that mean I can ask the reasons through that?
You can request the GCMS notes i.e. observations noted by the visa officer when s/he assessed your sister and brother-in-law's TRV applications.


If it is, my problem is when I helped her applied online, I didn't sent this IMM5744.
IM5744 is not part of a TRV application. So, you were not expected to include this for the TRV application.

Having said this, IMM5744 is the consent form which your sister and your brother-in-law must fill and sign to allow you to apply for the GCMS notes on their behalf