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[mead]

:-X
1000$!!!

say even if it's 600$.
I wonder how most students earn 600$ while studying doing part time jobs! damn! Must be a very hard life... full day class...then part time work!

its not full day classes..if ur in a university then u have 9 credit hours of courses so its just 9 hours per week in classes..but like in india its not just final exams that counts....in canada u have either submission or exams every week.....so ur homework is exhaustive. so lets say 3 hours each day of the week ur in classes that leaves u 4 days to work.

 

[mehtab007]

its not full day classes..if ur in a university then u have 9 credit hours of courses so its just 9 hours per week in classes..but like in India its not just final exams that counts....in Canada u have either submission or exams every week.....so ur homework is exhaustive. so lets say 3 hours each day of the week ur in classes that leaves u 4 days to work.

Ohh I see... Wasn't aware of it. I'm gathering info now and then by reading older posts, surfing web etc. Thanks for the info!

 

[D_K_]

Live in Present , Don't worry about future (planning is good but thers a little boundary between planning and worrying)
Instead of talking to some elder , you must have to talked to some student or alumni of some college.
Once you are in Canada , you'll find so many ways ....
Initially life would be hard , then time unfolds different ways ... ;D
(And its a cruel fact that every Canadian elder will say that don't come to Canada for study , but when student gets pr or good job then he says , see i advised him to come here and study :

 

[mehtab007]

Live in Present , Don't worry about future (planning is good but thers a little boundary between planning and worrying)
Instead of talking to some elder , you must have to talked to some student or alumni of some college.
Once you are in Canada , you'll find so many ways ....
Initially life would be hard , then time unfolds different ways ... ;D
(And its a cruel fact that every Canadian elder will say that don't come to Canada for study , but when student gets pr or good job then he says , see i advised him to come here and study :

Thanks friend!
Yeah you are right... and btw it's not that I only ask elder people..that man just met him by chance...
Wonder if people who are already studying in Canada.. visit this forum or not...

 

[vimalind]

Live in Present , Don't worry about future (planning is good but thers a little boundary between planning and worrying)
Instead of talking to some elder , you must have to talked to some student or alumni of some college.
Once you are in Canada , you'll find so many ways ....
Initially life would be hard , then time unfolds different ways ... ;D
(And its a cruel fact that every Canadian elder will say that don't come to Canada for study , but when student gets pr or good job then he says , see i advised him to come here and study :

+1 like

to all.. not only in canada.. anywhere in the world life is tough and hard @begining stage if you want to survive and become success.. otwise if you stay in india too.. you cant get success in your life even if you a billionaire

am i right pals?

 

[rix0065]

I m ryt now in Canada , came here for sep intake this year. Life is not at all easy here like in India. In my course i have 8 hours college 5 days a week and 3 tests in a week + homework, so a person like in my course can work only on weekends which can help you in your minimal expenses only

 

[vimalind]

I m ryt now in Canada , came here for sep intake this year. Life is not at all easy here like in India. In my course i have 8 hours college 5 days a week and 3 tests in a week + homework, so a person like in my course can work only on weekends which can help you in your minimal expenses only

Accepted... True words n exp, guys have a note this... but dont let down u could make it if you've real spirit and gud work profile, first u need to select right pgm for u which u love most. dont take which not matching to you.. if u do then it would b tough times for studies to finish your degree then PGWP..

select accordingly occupation demand list in your interested area..


am i right pal?

 

[rix0065]

Accepted... True words n exp, guys have a note this... but dont let down u could make it if you've real spirit and gud work profile, first u need to select right pgm for u which u love most. dont take which not matching to you.. if u do then it would b tough times for studies to finish your degree then PGWP..

select accordingly occupation demand list in your interested area..


am i right pal?

First of all choose the course which u want to do not which consultants tell you . Check job opportunities in the province before even applying for your course

 

[vimalind]

First of all choose the course which u want to do not which consultants tell you . Check job opportunities in the province before even applying for your course

Thats what I said the same dude...

 

[rix0065]

ya sorry dude i forgot to wrote u r right

 

[just_do_it]

I think the key is to be mentally prepared and have low expectations...

Mostly the idea we have of a place we have never been to is either from the internet, pictures, videos or from people who have been there.... mostly its not completely accurate.. trust your fellow indo-canadians to paint a rosy picture of their lives in canada and blow everything out of proportion...which is usually quite the opposite

Everybody's experience is different, some have it really easy in life... some don't. I know guys who did a 1 year course and got PR.... i also know guys who did a number of courses for 6-7 years but nothing worked out for them. There are a lot of students who have to go back to India because things didnt work out for them. You wouldnt have heard about them because nobody talks about their failures in life but everyone will broadcast their success story to the world. So It all depends on the choices you make, the nature of events when you make those choices and to some point... your luck

You dont have to have relatives etc here but if you do, its a big help.. specially when you leave your cozy home base and the security of your parents, having help here in the beginning goes a long way. Even if its just some advise and guidance. So if you do have distant relatives, reach out to them for help in any way they can.

You can probably make enough through part time work for living expenses but don't count on it because of various reasons:

a. you wont have a work permit for the first 6 months
b. living expenses will vary widely based on the city you live in, type of accomodation, your own lifestyle etc
c. your work schedule will depend on your course schedule
d. availability and the type of work

So its good to think about all these before you decide to come here just for your own piece of mind and your parents too...that does not mean people don't come here without a proper plan. Hundreds of students come to canada with no planning whatso-ever. I've met people who show up without even a place to stay and go straight to a gurdwara or a temple to find shelter. It just boggles my mind that someone can take such a big chance and their parents let them take it. Eventually they figure things out but only after going through a very very difficult time.

As far as thinking about the future goes (like jobs, PR etc), its really hard not to think about it. Specially as an Indian student, we have this fear of future and "what if" instilled in our minds from early age... think about it, you start thinking about what stream you will take in grade 11 right when you are in grade 8 or 9, you start preparing for CET, PMT etc in grade 11, start preparing for Masters while you are in 3'rd year of your bachelors...It's hard not to think about your future but also keeps you sharp and forces you to have a plan...

So i'm sure that older gentleman meant no harm but gave you genuine advise for your own benefit. After all, it is really tough to see someone suffer, specially when you can't do anything to help because of your own limitations. I mean its not too hard for guys if they have to go through a rough patch but i have seen girls coming to canada without knowing anyone, no accomodation etc, no plans of going through the course; all under the mis-conception that once yo get to canada, you are set. Not quite, the real struggle has just begun.

In the end, i won't say don't take a chance because life is all about taking chances, but have a plan A and a plan B. Things do get better but it takes time and hard work.

Good Luck

 

[mehtab007]

I think the key is to be mentally prepared and have low expectations...

Mostly the idea we have of a place we have never been to is either from the internet, pictures, videos or from people who have been there.... mostly its not completely accurate.. trust your fellow indo-canadians to paint a rosy picture of their lives in canada and blow everything out of proportion...which is usually quite the opposite

Everybody's experience is different, some have it really easy in life... some don't. I know guys who did a 1 year course and got PR.... i also know guys who did a number of courses for 6-7 years but nothing worked out for them. There are a lot of students who have to go back to India because things didnt work out for them. You wouldnt have heard about them because nobody talks about their failures in life but everyone will broadcast their success story to the world. So It all depends on the choices you make, the nature of events when you make those choices and to some point... your luck

You dont have to have relatives etc here but if you do, its a big help.. specially when you leave your cozy home base and the security of your parents, having help here in the beginning goes a long way. Even if its just some advise and guidance. So if you do have distant relatives, reach out to them for help in any way they can.

You can probably make enough through part time work for living expenses but don't count on it because of various reasons:

a. you wont have a work permit for the first 6 months
b. living expenses will vary widely based on the city you live in, type of accomodation, your own lifestyle etc
c. your work schedule will depend on your course schedule
d. availability and the type of work

So its good to think about all these before you decide to come here just for your own piece of mind and your parents too...that does not mean people don't come here without a proper plan. Hundreds of students come to canada with no planning whatso-ever. I've met people who show up without even a place to stay and go straight to a gurdwara or a temple to find shelter. It just boggles my mind that someone can take such a big chance and their parents let them take it. Eventually they figure things out but only after going through a very very difficult time.

As far as thinking about the future goes (like jobs, PR etc), its really hard not to think about it. Specially as an Indian student, we have this fear of future and "what if" instilled in our minds from early age... think about it, you start thinking about what stream you will take in grade 11 right when you are in grade 8 or 9, you start preparing for CET, PMT etc in grade 11, start preparing for Masters while you are in 3'rd year of your bachelors...It's hard not to think about your future but also keeps you sharp and forces you to have a plan...

So i'm sure that older gentleman meant no harm but gave you genuine advise for your own benefit. After all, it is really tough to see someone suffer, specially when you can't do anything to help because of your own limitations. I mean its not too hard for guys if they have to go through a rough patch but i have seen girls coming to canada without knowing anyone, no accomodation etc, no plans of going through the course; all under the mis-conception that once yo get to canada, you are set. Not quite, the real struggle has just begun.

In the end, i won't say don't take a chance because life is all about taking chances, but have a plan A and a plan B. Things do get better but it takes time and hard work.

Good Luck

+1


Really good reply my friend!
Honestly speaking... what you told, any sensible person planning to go to Canada, deep inside, should knows this... I guess, I just needed to hear this from someone... feels better. Human psychology... I guess...;D after-all while everyone here on this forum is mostly worried about GETTING the visa... hardly anyone starts posts on the RISKS AFTER getting the visa/landing there in Canada... I guess most of our forum friends have community support of some kind or other... and I don't have any.... and so I started this post.. especially I got kinda confused and nervous after hearing that elderly man.

Also, most..infact nearly everyone says they earn or plan to earn their living expenses by doing part time work...many illegally within first 6 months.... I really wonder how people manage it those who attend 5 days a week classes, loads of assignments, tests etc... and keeping living expenses @ 1k$/month for say a 2 years/16 months course , substantially increases the overall budget to 16,000$ extra (even at minimum will require 8-10k$)...which is quiet unaffordable for many of us (atleast for me).But, I think will have to make provisions for that...too...

Finally... yeah.. got to take the chance after all...

Btw.. Can any 1 tell me about Montreal? How is it for desi students..who know no or little French?

 

[vimalind]

I think the key is to be mentally prepared and have low expectations...

Mostly the idea we have of a place we have never been to is either from the internet, pictures, videos or from people who have been there.... mostly its not completely accurate.. trust your fellow indo-canadians to paint a rosy picture of their lives in canada and blow everything out of proportion...which is usually quite the opposite

Everybody's experience is different, some have it really easy in life... some don't. I know guys who did a 1 year course and got PR.... i also know guys who did a number of courses for 6-7 years but nothing worked out for them. There are a lot of students who have to go back to India because things didnt work out for them. You wouldnt have heard about them because nobody talks about their failures in life but everyone will broadcast their success story to the world. So It all depends on the choices you make, the nature of events when you make those choices and to some point... your luck

You dont have to have relatives etc here but if you do, its a big help.. specially when you leave your cozy home base and the security of your parents, having help here in the beginning goes a long way. Even if its just some advise and guidance. So if you do have distant relatives, reach out to them for help in any way they can.

You can probably make enough through part time work for living expenses but don't count on it because of various reasons:

a. you wont have a work permit for the first 6 months
b. living expenses will vary widely based on the city you live in, type of accomodation, your own lifestyle etc
c. your work schedule will depend on your course schedule
d. availability and the type of work

So its good to think about all these before you decide to come here just for your own piece of mind and your parents too...that does not mean people don't come here without a proper plan. Hundreds of students come to canada with no planning whatso-ever. I've met people who show up without even a place to stay and go straight to a gurdwara or a temple to find shelter. It just boggles my mind that someone can take such a big chance and their parents let them take it. Eventually they figure things out but only after going through a very very difficult time.

As far as thinking about the future goes (like jobs, PR etc), its really hard not to think about it. Specially as an Indian student, we have this fear of future and "what if" instilled in our minds from early age... think about it, you start thinking about what stream you will take in grade 11 right when you are in grade 8 or 9, you start preparing for CET, PMT etc in grade 11, start preparing for Masters while you are in 3'rd year of your bachelors...It's hard not to think about your future but also keeps you sharp and forces you to have a plan...

So i'm sure that older gentleman meant no harm but gave you genuine advise for your own benefit. After all, it is really tough to see someone suffer, specially when you can't do anything to help because of your own limitations. I mean its not too hard for guys if they have to go through a rough patch but i have seen girls coming to canada without knowing anyone, no accomodation etc, no plans of going through the course; all under the mis-conception that once yo get to canada, you are set. Not quite, the real struggle has just begun.

In the end, i won't say don't take a chance because life is all about taking chances, but have a plan A and a plan B. Things do get better but it takes time and hard work.

Good Luck

+1 like... True words... must b noted who r planing their studies in Cda

 

[just_do_it]

@ Mehtab007

I know it can be difficult to think about these things... they put you in an very uncomfortable state

I know very well that not all of us can afford education in western countries easily, almost everyone banks on working through their time as a student.. and i think everyone should because you have an opportunity to do so here. It teaches you the value of hard work, money and makes you a better person. Besides, you would never have the same opportunity to work and study back in India.

You will eventually figure things out once you get here and spend some time here, you will find the time for part-time work, adjust living expenses and your lifestyle accordingly, trust me.. it all works out in the end. but for the first little bit, you have to be prepared.

I would recommend, from my experience, have enough money to cover all your expenses (accomodation, food, medicines etc) for the first little bit... atleast 6 months but preferably 1 year. It can take you anywhere from 6-12 months to find a job and get used to work + study schedule. Keep in mind your study schedule will change each semester so your work schedule will be affected as well. Also, time flies so fast here, you wouldnt believe it. I've been here 10 years and have no idea where that time went. I remember it like yesterday when i came here for the first time.

Always Always always.. and i cant stress enough... have some money saved away for emergency cash. Start small with whatever you can afford to save and never touch it. even $500 will help you through a rough patch.

For jobs, i would recommend looking for programs that have the option of co-op... it will really help you if you can take work placements throughout your course. For e.g. i had the option of going to school for a semester and take co-op for a semester. It really works out as it lets you work full time and save $ for the next 1 or 2 semesters. That would be the best approach if its available. co-op after you finish school is fine too but it does not help you much while you are in school.

If nothing else, take an extra loan for living expenses too. An extra $16000 (based on your calculations) would mean nothing if it ensures you focus on your education and have better chances of immigrating to Canada. You can make 3-4 times that much in the first year of your full time employment. You just have to make sure your program area is in demand and marketable to employers. Canadian students, paying domestic fee, graduate with $40-50,000 in student loans on average... and with mickey mouse degree's like psychology, political sciences, linguistics etc. If you can work things out, return it early.

As for montreal, never been there but i have heard that it is an amazing city. You dont need to know french in montreal as it is a very multicultural city, but there are parts of quebec where french is the only language to get by with. It will be cold though but you wont become a canadian unless you get used to the cold.

Good Luck in your endeavours

 

[just_do_it]

its not full day classes..if ur in a university then u have 9 credit hours of courses so its just 9 hours per week in classes..but like in india its not just final exams that counts....in canada u have either submission or exams every week.....so ur homework is exhaustive. so lets say 3 hours each day of the week ur in classes that leaves u 4 days to work.

Not true...

your schedule will depend on the number of courses you are registered in (this can vary from 4 to 5 or 6)
Each course will be offered at a certain time of the day on certain days of the week (some are all days of the week, some are only twice or thrice a week or so). You may also have associated labs that can go on for couple of hours once or twice a week. You may have days where your have a class from 8-9 AM and then the next is that 3-4 PM and nothing in between.

so your daily schedule will vary (from semester to semester).

Normally, the only time you can count on is the weekends. So if you stay regular and on top of your courses with assignments and stuff throughout the week and not procrastinate... you can have the weekends to work and maybe put in some extra hours during the week too.. of course it all depends on the type of work you find and their flexibility in accommodating to your schedule..

dont count on anything untill you get here, register and see what your schedule looks like.... after you have your schedule, you still have to find a job that fits your schedule...