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Alurra71

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Yes, each province has their own rules and regulations regarding licensing.

I was referencing the the other poster in my previous answer based directly on what I know Ontario wants. I came to Ontario and know what they needed. The abstract lets them know that you have been driving for many years so transferring over the license isn't an issue if you just got a renewal license say in the last year or so. Most provinces require a minimum of 2 years of driving to get a direct swap license. I brought them all my abstracts from every place I'd ever had a license, all the way back to when I got my first one at age 16. LOL I wanted to make sure there was NO issue wondering if I could handle an automobile ;)
 

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Alurra71 said:
Yes, each province has their own rules and regulations regarding licensing.

I was referencing the the other poster in my previous answer based directly on what I know Ontario wants. I came to Ontario and know what they needed. The abstract lets them know that you have been driving for many years so transferring over the license isn't an issue if you just got a renewal license say in the last year or so. Most provinces require a minimum of 2 years of driving to get a direct swap license. I brought them all my abstracts from every place I'd ever had a license, all the way back to when I got my first one at age 16. LOL I wanted to make sure there was NO issue wondering if I could handle an automobile ;)
I'm heading to ON so this is good info Thanks :)
 

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Alurra71 said:
Yes, each province has their own rules and regulations regarding licensing.

I was referencing the the other poster in my previous answer based directly on what I know Ontario wants. I came to Ontario and know what they needed. The abstract lets them know that you have been driving for many years so transferring over the license isn't an issue if you just got a renewal license say in the last year or so. Most provinces require a minimum of 2 years of driving to get a direct swap license. I brought them all my abstracts from every place I'd ever had a license, all the way back to when I got my first one at age 16. LOL I wanted to make sure there was NO issue wondering if I could handle an automobile ;)
Absolutely, we're still waiting for my husband's driver's history to come in the mail, we definitely didn't want him to be put into the graduated licensing program!
 

Mythikah

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Ok now I'm a bit confused about the fees. I get to this list:
Sponsorship application (per application) $75.00
Principal applicant $475.00
Principal applicant who is under 19 years of age, unmarried and not in a common-law relationship $75.00
Spouse, common-law partner or conjugal partner $550.00
Family member of the principal applicant who is under 19 years of age, unmarried and not in a common-law relationship OR is 19 years of age or older who has been unable to be financially self-supporting since before the age of 19 due to a physical or mental condition $150.00
Fee subject to a transitional provision - Family member of the principal applicant who is 22 years of age or older $550.00
Fee subject to a transitional provision - Family member of the principal applicant who is under 22 years of age, unmarried and not in a common-law relationship OR is 22 years of age or older who is unable to be financially self-supporting due to physical or mental condition $150.00
Right of Permanent Residence Fee $490.00
What the heck applies to me? I know sponsorship application and principal applicant, but I'm confused about everything else. It's just my husband coming to Canada, and he is my spouse so does that mean I pay this "spouse" fee in addition to the principal applicant fee? and What is "right of permanent residence?" Argh so confusing ???
 

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If you are just sponsoring your husband, then your fees will be:
Sponsorship application (per application) $75.00
Principal applicant $475.00
Right of Permanent Residence Fee $490.00

Total: $1040.00
 

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Alurra71 said:
I was referencing the the other poster in my previous answer based directly on what I know Ontario wants. I came to Ontario and know what they needed. The abstract lets them know that you have been driving for many years so transferring over the license isn't an issue if you just got a renewal license say in the last year or so. Most provinces require a minimum of 2 years of driving to get a direct swap license.
Do you know if your time with a learner's permit counts towards this two years? I ask because at this time I have only had a "full" license for almost a year, but I held a permit for about 5 or 6 years (there were circumstances outside of my control making it difficult for me to take the test for a full license). So I have driving experience of about 7 years, but unfortunately I'm worried that they will still see me as a "new" driver.
 

Alurra71

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Elindarling said:
Do you know if your time with a learner's permit counts towards this two years? I ask because at this time I have only had a "full" license for almost a year, but I held a permit for about 5 or 6 years (there were circumstances outside of my control making it difficult for me to take the test for a full license). So I have driving experience of about 7 years, but unfortunately I'm worried that they will still see me as a "new" driver.
I don't think permit driving counts, but you would need to speak to your licensing bureau wherever you live to find out for sure.
 

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When I got my licence in Ontario a few months ago, they asked about the equivalent of their licences and took those times into account. So in Ontario you start with your G1, then go to G2, and then your G. G1 is the equivalent of a learner's permit in Iowa, so they would have included my time on my learner's permit. They couldn't because I got my learner's permit at 14 and their system wouldn't allow them to record driving experience before 16 (when someone can get a G1 in Ontario). So I would say yes, they would count it because it is time driving under the equivalent of the Ontario G1, but if you got it before 16, they won't be able to enter those years into their system.
 

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I'm so excited, after having an Inland application sent back twice for " Outdated/signature'; we decided to take it as a sign and apply Outland. The questions seemed a little more "Strict" compared to Inland however.

Curious questions:

Do I have to leave Canada "Here Now", and come back to land being I submitted Outland?

If I was charged in 1998 for Criminal damage, even though it's now automatically considered "Rehabilitated" would that STILL raise a red flag? I do not want my application transferred to LA! Obviously my wants are mine, lol BUT it would be nice to have some comfort knowing?

If I already sent the Police certificate/FBI record, are they going to also want that States detailed police report?


Thanks :)
 

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michminn said:
Do I have to leave Canada "Here Now", and come back to land being I submitted Outland?
Yes. Though that can be a quick trip to the border: that's what I did... paperwork arrived at 1:30 pm Saturday and by 5 pm I'd grabbed my spouse and drove through the border. Getting an entry stamp for the US took longer than becoming a permanent resident of Canada.

If you REALLY don't want to leave, you can call the CIC call centre and schedule a landing appointment at a CIC office inside Canada.

michminn said:
If I was charged in 1998 for Criminal damage, even though it's now automatically considered "Rehabilitated" would that STILL raise a red flag? I do not want my application transferred to LA! Obviously my wants are mine, lol BUT it would be nice to have some comfort knowing?
Deemed rehabilitation isn't "automatic" - it still requires an officer review the specifics and make a decision that you are eligible. I'm not sure what the Canadian equivalent is, but they have to make that determination and based upon that analysis decide if you qualify for deemed rehabilitation or not. From what you've said, it sounds like you probably finished your sentence prior to 2004, in which case it seems likely.

michminn said:
If I already sent the Police certificate/FBI record, are they going to also want that States detailed police report?
I would, though it may not actually be necessary. You might want to wait until you have sponsor approval first and then apply for it. When you have it, send it to your visa office and reference your file number. Make sure to keep copies and send everything via some method that gets you a signature.
 

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computergeek said:
Yes. Though that can be a quick trip to the border: that's what I did... paperwork arrived at 1:30 pm Saturday and by 5 pm I'd grabbed my spouse and drove through the border. Getting an entry stamp for the US took longer than becoming a permanent resident of Canada.

If you REALLY don't want to leave, you can call the CIC call centre and schedule a landing appointment at a CIC office inside Canada.

Deemed rehabilitation isn't "automatic" - it still requires an officer review the specifics and make a decision that you are eligible. I'm not sure what the Canadian equivalent is, but they have to make that determination and based upon that analysis decide if you qualify for deemed rehabilitation or not. From what you've said, it sounds like you probably finished your sentence prior to 2004, in which case it seems likely.

I would, though it may not actually be necessary. You might want to wait until you have sponsor approval first and then apply for it. When you have it, send it to your visa office and reference your file number. Make sure to keep copies and send everything via some method that gets you a signature.

Thank you Computergeek! You always have the BEST advice, much appreciated..... ;D
 

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Is there a spreadsheet for Outland applicants? I submitted my application AGAIN! This time for Outland in September 2014. Went to Ottawa. Thanks
 

MizAngel

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michminn said:
Is there a spreadsheet for Outland applicants? I submitted my application AGAIN! This time for Outland in September 2014. Went to Ottawa. Thanks
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aq6VF-LGjkR9dGNpLUxQZ1Z0Mm80aE5ZWDBvWklEQUE#gid=0
 

michminn

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VISA ISSUED...
COPR 17/6/2015
LANDED..........
Soon... 25/6/2015 !!!!!!!!!!! Anticipated
MizAngel said:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aq6VF-LGjkR9dGNpLUxQZ1Z0Mm80aE5ZWDBvWklEQUE#gid=0
Thank you!
 

michminn

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Soon... 25/6/2015 !!!!!!!!!!! Anticipated
Just found CIC's manual OP 2 RE: Family class sponsorship:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/op/op02-eng.pdf

It's an educational read.

One excerpt was interesting and gave me hope :)

5.6. Processing priorities
Applications for permanent residence from spouses, common-law partners, conjugal partners and dependent children have the highest priority, along with children to be adopted. Other members of the family class follow. These are operational, not regulatory priorities. The Department aims to process 80% of sponsorship and permanent residence applications submitted on behalf of the high-priority group of spouses, common-law partners, conjugal partners and dependent children within six months.